posted by kizer permanenteSo they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.
So the Russians rigged it in 2016 but not 2020? Makes sense.
posted by kizer permanenteSure.. but neither party has moved towards the center.
The center has changed as the dems have moved further and further to the left.
posted by kizer permanenteSo they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.
Probably much easier to do in a COVID election with all of the mail in ballots. That election sent out a huge red flag with the number of votes Biden got. Republicans were extremely diligent to be on top of this in 2024, hiring attorneys, etc to monitor the polls.
With most people not going into voting locations in 2020, is it REALLY that difficult to imagine that an election couldn't be tampered with?
It's water under the bridge now but it's glaring to think Weekend at Bernie's got 15 million more voters than anyone in the last 4 cycles.
The replies are glorious
Congratulations to Vice President-elect JD Vance, an alumnus of The Ohio State University and native Ohioan.
— Ohio State (@OhioState) November 6, 2024
That's my VP.
posted by kizer permanenteSo they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.
Harder to cheat a 2nd time
posted by justincredibleThat's my VP.
I was very critical of the JD pick, but man I was wrong. He was great on Theo's podcast, just a normal dude.
posted by Trueblue23I was very critical of the JD pick, but man I was wrong. He was great on Theo's podcast, just a normal dude.
He ended up being solid. Still hilarious they tried calling him weird while rolling out Walz. Him vs. Newsome/Shapiro in the future would be interesting.
The Dem party has tried to manage everything, from start to finish, with brute force.
From weaponizing the govt against private citizens, political persecutions to the lawfare, the govt forcing social medias to censor and ban people (remember that they banned a news publication [NYPost] because they reported a true story) to stop the free flow of information, brazenly bragging about siding with the military industrial complex for forever wars, having MSM cooperate in enacting some of the biggest hoaxes ever put on the American people.
Is there anything good left in the Democrats? I mean it, it's an honest question. Box Trump away for a minute and ask yourself that question. Is there ANY good principle that they haven't betrayed?
And for what?
posted by Trueblue23The replies are glorious
Congratulations to Vice President-elect JD Vance, an alumnus of The Ohio State University and native Ohioan.
— Ohio State (@OhioState) November 6, 2024
Even 30 sec in those comments will make your day.
posted by CenterBHSFanThe Dem party has tried to manage everything, from start to finish, with brute force.
From weaponizing the govt against private citizens, political persecutions to the lawfare, the govt forcing social medias to censor and ban people (remember that they banned a news publication [NYPost] because they reported a true story) to stop the free flow of information, brazenly bragging about siding with the military industrial complex for forever wars, having MSM cooperate in enacting some of the biggest hoaxes ever put on the American people.
Is there anything good left in the Democrats? I mean it, it's an honest question. Box Trump away for a minute and ask yourself that question. Is there ANY good principle that they haven't betrayed?
And for what?
They could've avoided Trump all together if they hadn't hustled Bernie in 2016.
I liked Andrew Yang for a bit, but you're right, their cupboard isn't exactly full. I assume 2028 will be Newsome and female/minority VP.
posted by CenterBHSFanThe Dem party has tried to manage everything, from start to finish, with brute force.
From weaponizing the govt against private citizens, political persecutions to the lawfare, the govt forcing social medias to censor and ban people (remember that they banned a news publication [NYPost] because they reported a true story) to stop the free flow of information, brazenly bragging about siding with the military industrial complex for forever wars, having MSM cooperate in enacting some of the biggest hoaxes ever put on the American people.
Is there anything good left in the Democrats? I mean it, it's an honest question. Box Trump away for a minute and ask yourself that question. Is there ANY good principle that they haven't betrayed?
And for what?
I agree with you 100%. The party is just shady and will stop at nothing to win.
When I saw Rogan calling out Fetterman about strategically placing immigrants in swing states, then giving them citizenship to gain their votes and he stammered/couldn't give a straight answer, I knew that everything was on the table for them. Pelosi has even alluded to the fact that was their end game.
I know certain individuals (on here) will say it's hogwash but I'm not seeing it that way. That's why I thought it was crucial that this election be won by Trump because my firm belief was that. had she been elected, the Republicans could kiss goodbye any future chances of gaining the White House.
posted by Trueblue23So the Russians rigged it in 2016 but not 2020? Makes sense.
Who said that, strawman?
posted by Trueblue23The center has changed as the dems have moved further and further to the left.
The center is the same.. both have just moved further from it. People in the center didn't change. Which was the point,
posted by kizer permanenteWho said that, strawman?
It's the same thing contextually.
"So trump was cheated when he lost but not when he won"
"So Dems were cheated when they lost but not when they won"
posted by kizer permanenteSo they cheated to beat Trump in 2020 but didn’t cheat so they wouldn’t beat him in 2024? Makes sense.
Obama 1: 69 million votes
Obama 2: 66 million votes
Clinton: 66 million votes
Biden: 81 million votes
Harris: 66 million votes
Please explain.
posted by Trueblue23It's the same thing contextually.
"So trump was cheated when he lost but not when he won"
"So Dems were cheated when they lost but not when they won"
It'd be the same had I said the Republicans cheated in 2016. Hence.. strawman.
posted by kizer permanenteIt'd be the same had I said the Republicans cheated in 2016. Hence.. strawman.
You didn't, but the whole Democratic party did.
posted by QuakerOats
Obama 1: 69 million votes
Obama 2: 66 million votes
Clinton: 66 million votes
Biden: 81 million votes
Harris: 66 million votes
Please explain.
Trumps votes were also 10 million higher in 2020. Do you really need someone to explain participation to you or nah? 3rd election with Trump vs a candidate that didn't win a primary. You thought participation would be higher?
And now I find myself curious as to who will have actual roles in this second Trump administration.
Massie?
Tulsi?
Nicole Shanahan?
Ron Paul has already said that he's interested in working with Elon Musk to reduce govt waste. How would that work? Wouldn't Congressional approval need to happen?
I have so many more questions!
When will find out more?
posted by CenterBHSFanAnd now I find myself curious as to who will have actual roles in this second Trump administration.
Massie?
Tulsi?
Nicole Shanahan?
Ron Paul has already said that he's interested in working with Elon Musk to reduce govt waste. How would that work? Wouldn't Congressional approval need to happen?
I have so many more questions!
When will find out more?
In the words of the great Ron Swanson.. "SLASH IT!! SLASH IT!!"
Very well said
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posted by kizer permanenteTrumps votes were also 10 million higher in 2020. Do you really need someone to explain participation to you or nah? 3rd election with Trump vs a candidate that didn't win a primary. You thought participation would be higher?
Trump is going to end up pretty close to the same number of votes in 2024 as he did in 2020, +/- a couple million. The Ds dropped right back down to 66m ish
posted by jmogTrump is going to end up pretty close to the same number of votes in 2024 as he did in 2020, +/- a couple million. The Ds dropped right back down to 66m ish
Yeah and look at state level voting... it's down across the country too from 2020. Do you think the Dems rigged every state too? Why didn't they do better in the state level if they were going thru that effort?
I just watched this clip of Morning Joe from earlier today.
They are acting like normal people lol! How long will this last before they revert to acting like spastic retards again?
Edit to add:
Nevermind, I just saw another clip where they've already reverted, complaining how Trump won't tell the truth. These people, Joe & Mika, own no mirrors.