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  • bduq37
    I'm not a gambling man, but I would bet the farm that Krop isn't just going to sit back and bow down to the Mighty Red.
  • bduq37
    ManO'War wrote: You guys are aware of this state law called "open enrollmennt" aren't you? Or is it only when it benefits your school???
    Just curious, How many open enrollees are in the drama club?
  • ferflog
    Green is not a good color on you guys. :angel:
  • bduq37
    Red is not a good color on a lot of the local talent, but that doesn't stop anyone.
  • snyds113
    bduq37 wrote: Red is not a good color on a lot of the local talent, but that doesn't stop anyone.
    You guys act like a single person or persons within the program is responsible for kids coming to play for big red.If you want to yap and complain to someone about kids coming to play for them then go get mad at the parents or better yet the athlete themselves.
  • sonofsam
    snyds113 wrote:
    bduq37 wrote: Red is not a good color on a lot of the local talent, but that doesn't stop anyone.
    You guys act like a single person or persons within the program is responsible for kids coming to play for big red.If you want to yap and complain to someone about kids coming to play for them then go get mad at the parents or better yet the athlete themselves.
    Snyds, it doesn't do any good. I could care less where a kid wants to go play football. The point is I can understand a few kids from Weirton coming over the bridge, I can understand a kid coming from Creek or even Edison's district on 213. What I have a hard time swallowing is a kid from East Liverpool, Cadiz, and other areas that are miles away from Steubenville waking up one day and saying "I should go to Big Red because I have talent..." And mom and dad just agreeing to take them there every morning to school just so that they can play football there. I would think that before those kids chose to attend Big Red, they would contact the coaching staff to see if they posses the talent to play in the system or if they will ride the pine while they are there. If that is the case, which I am NOT implying that is is, but if it were, that is a form of recruiting. If it WERE not the case, heck, every football player in the valley that has no sense of hometown pride would be transferring. Its just coincidence that its only the players with talent and the ability to play for Big Red that take advantage of open enrollment.

    Because of this, all the sudden everyone is "green" or "jealous" of Big Red. Thats not the case... We just shake our head and laugh because these open enrollment kids give Big Red fans something to belittle other valley teams about and call them jealous. I'm happy for Big Red that they scored another prospect, I'm just so dang jealous that I can't contain myself... Oh what to do, I'm just so darn jealous. lol
  • SUPER787
    sonofsam wrote:
    snyds113 wrote:
    bduq37 wrote: Red is not a good color on a lot of the local talent, but that doesn't stop anyone.
    You guys act like a single person or persons within the program is responsible for kids coming to play for big red.If you want to yap and complain to someone about kids coming to play for them then go get mad at the parents or better yet the athlete themselves.
    Snyds, it doesn't do any good. I could care less where a kid wants to go play football. The point is I can understand a few kids from Weirton coming over the bridge, I can understand a kid coming from Creek or even Edison's district on 213. What I have a hard time swallowing is a kid from East Liverpool, Cadiz, and other areas that are miles away from Steubenville waking up one day and saying "I should go to Big Red because I have talent..." And mom and dad just agreeing to take them there every morning to school just so that they can play football there. I would think that before those kids chose to attend Big Red, they would contact the coaching staff to see if they posses the talent to play in the system or if they will ride the pine while they are there. If that is the case, which I am NOT implying that is is, but if it were, that is a form of recruiting. If it WERE not the case, heck, every football player in the valley that has no sense of hometown pride would be transferring. Its just coincidence that its only the players with talent and the ability to play for Big Red that take advantage of open enrollment.

    Because of this, all the sudden everyone is "green" or "jealous" of Big Red. Thats not the case... We just shake our head and laugh because these open enrollment kids give Big Red fans something to belittle other valley teams about and call them jealous. I'm happy for Big Red that they scored another prospect, I'm just so dang jealous that I can't contain myself... Oh what to do, I'm just so darn jealous. lol
    Another transfer and another barrage of silly posts on recruiting.
    Why would any kid contact the coaching staff to see if he /she has the talent to play? How would the coaching staff evaluate talent until the kid goes through the preseason preparations?
    I recently talked to a man who has a kid in the eighth grade in the Indian Creek School District. The kid is a great prospect: big, co-ordinated, and intelligent. This father told me he was thinking of sending his boy to Big Red. I asked if the kid wanted it or if it was his idea.
    The father answered: "it was my idea." Reason, exposure to more chances for college free rides.
    EXPOSURE, that's the biggest reason that comes up mostly.
    Also, wouldn't it be stupid to think Reno would get 2 college professors from Pitts.,jobs at Stuby U. just to have their two kids play at Big Red?
    Come on folks, use some common sense when posting about this touchy subject and remember this: the worse the economy gets, the more chances for more transfers to the better programs.
    Cheers.
  • peoplerfunny
    It doesn't matter if you play for Big Red, or Conotton Valley. If you have the talent, the college coaches will find you. Remember the Snedeger boy from tiny Buckeye Trail a few years back ? He had a full ride to Kentucky and played 3yrs there as a linebacker. You might receive more exposure playing at a bigger school, but talent is talent. You will be noticed if you are good enough.
  • GoChiefs
    peoplerfunny wrote: You will be noticed if you are good enough.
    That is completely untrue. The coaches, parents, whomever still has to get your name out there. The talent isn't going to get your name known alone.
  • ManO'War
    SOS, so I suppose you were cheering against the two Big Red basketball players that went to IC and started a few years ago??

    Same goes for Weirton...they have received more from Big Red than we have gotten from them. Did you know that Campbell, their big center this past year, lives across the street from Big Red? The Herald Star even wrote a story on how he would walk to the High Shaft every day to practice...well, he sure isn't walking from Weirton!

    As for OE, it is the law. If you don't like it, then go to Columbus and try to change it, but don't be mad just because someone else is doing it better than your school.
  • sonofsam
    ManO'War wrote: SOS, so I suppose you were cheering against the two Big Red basketball players that went to IC and started a few years ago??
    I don't even follow basketball.
    ManO'War wrote: Same goes for Weirton...they have received more from Big Red than we have gotten from them. Did you know that Campbell, their big center this past year, lives across the street from Big Red? The Herald Star even wrote a story on how he would walk to the High Shaft every day to practice...well, he sure isn't walking from Weirton!
    Yea, a few of them were not allowed in Steubenville if I remember correctly. And yes, you have to have one or two go elsewhere every now and them to keep the heat off.
    ManO'War wrote: As for OE, it is the law. If you don't like it, then go to Columbus and try to change it, but don't be mad just because someone else is doing it better than your school.
    Doing it better? I didn't know that open enrollment was something you "do"? And I am not mad, just observant and skeptical of the way you "do" open enrollment...
  • GoChiefs
    Change the subject..enough of the whole 'recruiting' BS. Open Enrollment is fair game. Whether you want to believe that's how teams get some players, that's your opinion. But this isn't where it will be discussed. See rule #3. Any posts from here on out regarding 'recruiting' will be edited or deleted. Thanks chatters!
  • ManO'War
    Of course OE is something you "do". Why do you think Big Red added the addition to the high school in 94? It was to attract OE students. Any school board/administration that doesn't try to attract OE students is not doing their job.
  • peoplerfunny
    GoChiefs wrote:
    peoplerfunny wrote: You will be noticed if you are good enough.
    That is completely untrue. The coaches, parents, whomever still has to get your name out there. The talent isn't going to get your name known alone.
    No it's not. It's very true. You see, I've personally been down this road before. I know what I'm talking about. I am proof of that. Get more facts before you shoot off your mouth again.
  • sonofsam
    ManO'War wrote: Of course OE is something you "do". Why do you think Big Red added the addition to the high school in 94? It was to attract OE students. Any school board/administration that doesn't try to attract OE students is not doing their job.
    darn... and here I thought it was your sign on sunset reading: "Come to Big Red"
  • GoChiefs
    peoplerfunny wrote: No it's not. It's very true. You see, I've personally been down this road before. I know what I'm talking about. I am proof of that. Get more facts before you shoot off your mouth again.
    I don't care what you think you're proof of. I come from a school that will prove you completely different. We have plenty of talent that comes through our high school. Some are very rare talents. And b/c the coaches at our school aren't very involved in recruiting the kids for college, a lot of them go unknown. So don't feed me your BS. You better get YOUR facts straight if you want to go down this road. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Not going to argue with you about it, but it's a fact that talent alone isn't going to get your name out there unless you're at a big time program. If you're at a big time program, you don't need to have anyone talk about you. It will be seen. But if you're at a small program, you need help to get your name out there. That's all there is to it.
  • sonofsam
    My sister got a softball scholarship playing at Wintersville... The scouts came to see her from a few different schools. If you are good enough, your name gets out.
  • peoplerfunny
    GoChiefs wrote:
    peoplerfunny wrote: No it's not. It's very true. You see, I've personally been down this road before. I know what I'm talking about. I am proof of that. Get more facts before you shoot off your mouth again.
    I don't care what you think you're proof of. I come from a school that will prove you completely different. We have plenty of talent that comes through our high school. Some are very rare talents. And b/c the coaches at our school aren't very involved in recruiting the kids for college, a lot of them go unknown. So don't feed me your BS. You better get YOUR facts straight if you want to go down this road. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Not going to argue with you about it, but it's a fact that talent alone isn't going to get your name out there unless you're at a big time program. If you're at a big time program, you don't need to have anyone talk about you. It will be seen. But if you're at a small program, you need help to get your name out there. That's all there is to it.
    How much clearer do I have to be chief ?...I'M LIVING PROOF. Did you play Div. 1 football ? I did. 4 years I played. Want to know how many graduated in my class ? 119. That's how many. Thanks to no help from coaches or AD's. I have my facts straight as well as my broken bones and surgeries to prove it.
  • peoplerfunny
    sonofsam wrote: My sister got a softball scholarship playing at Wintersville... The scouts came to see her from a few different schools. If you are good enough, your name gets out.
    Thanks SOS for proving my point
  • GoChiefs
    peoplerfunny wrote: How much clearer do I have to be chief ?...I'M LIVING PROOF. Did you play Div. 1 football ? I did. 4 years I played. Want to know how many graduated in my class ? 119. That's how many. Thanks to no help from coaches or AD's. I have my facts straight as well as my broken bones and surgeries to prove it.
    Really? Go ask Pat Angle about your 'facts'. I'm sure he'll prove you differently. Talk to him..then tell me how much clearer I need to be.
  • GoChiefs
    peoplerfunny wrote: Thanks SOS for proving my point
    Because his sister got a softball scholarship proves your point? False. Like I said, Pat Angle proves my point. Along with many other great athletes in SE Ohio.
  • peoplerfunny
    GoChiefs wrote:
    peoplerfunny wrote: How much clearer do I have to be chief ?...I'M LIVING PROOF. Did you play Div. 1 football ? I did. 4 years I played. Want to know how many graduated in my class ? 119. That's how many. Thanks to no help from coaches or AD's. I have my facts straight as well as my broken bones and surgeries to prove it.
    Really? Go ask Pat Angle about your 'facts'. I'm sure he'll prove you differently. Talk to him..then tell me how much clearer I need to be.
    I don't need to talk to your buddy Pat. I lived the dream and I'd do again in a heartbeat. Now get back to class.
  • sonofsam
    All I proved is that if you are good enough, your name will take care of itself. She was also offered to play for the Rockie Mountain Silver Bullets as well.
  • peoplerfunny
    sonofsam wrote: All I proved is that if you are good enough, your name will take care of itself. She was also offered to play for the Rockie Mountain Silver Bullets as well.
    That's all I'm saying SOS. If you are good enough, they will find you.
  • GoChiefs
    peoplerfunny wrote: I don't need to talk to your buddy Pat. I lived the dream and I'd do again in a heartbeat. Now get back to class.
    Buddy? Nope..don't know the kid. Just one helluva athlete. Don't hate just b/c you have been shown how wrong you are. Get back to class? Really? Guess someone can't handle a little discussion without trying to act like a 5 yr old? Or a internet tough guy? Like I said..you think what you want..but Pat Angle proves you wrong any day of the week. Talent alone doesn't get your name out there in high school. That's all there is to it. Have a great day. Not gonna have a discussion with someone that can't discuss like an adult.