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Cardinal Mooney def. Poland 24-7

  • tank2nasty
    tank2nasty wrote:
    Rocket08 wrote:
    tank2nasty wrote: I guess Poland's fumble on the 3 meant nothing either huh?
    You Mooney cheerleaders kill me!
    Its gonna be fun watching Big Red shatter your dreams! AGAIN!
    tank the troll

    What's big reds record against Mooney again, like you, I've seemed to have forgotten
    After the 80's 2-1

    *NOTE* I AM ALREADY MARKING DOWN THIS YEARS VICTORY
    MOONEY FANS DON'T FEEL DISRESPECTED I LIKE TO STIR MY KOOL-AID!
    IF YOU GET MY DRIFT!


    with that being said Big Red wins by 20 ! 20 TD's that is!
    Too bad we won't make any extra points! :D
  • Cmhs74
    tank2nasty Wrote:
    I guess Poland's fumble on the 3 meant nothing either huh?
    You Mooney cheerleaders kill me!
    Its gonna be fun watching Big Red shatter your dreams! AGAIN!

    Thanks tank, after seeing how your prediction on the Poland game didn't come true I feel much better about Mooney's chance against Big Red. And yes they did shatter our dreams a few years ago but we've shattered theirs on three other occasions. And yes I am a Mooney cheerleader, I'm faithful to my alma mater and don't have to roam the threads looking for teams to bash. Apparently you are so jealous of the Mooney program you'll go on any of their threads just to berate the Cardinals. I believe that's pretty pathetic.
  • tank2nasty
    Cmhs74 wrote: tank2nasty Wrote:
    I guess Poland's fumble on the 3 meant nothing either huh?
    You Mooney cheerleaders kill me!
    Its gonna be fun watching Big Red shatter your dreams! AGAIN!

    Thanks tank, after seeing how your prediction on the Poland game didn't come true I feel much better about Mooney's chance against Big Red. And yes they did shatter our dreams a few years ago but we've shattered theirs on three other occasions. And yes I am a Mooney cheerleader, I'm faithful to my alma mater and don't have to roam the threads looking for teams to bash. Apparently you are so jealous of the Mooney program you'll go on any of their threads just to berate the Cardinals. I believe that's pretty pathetic.
    We didn't shatter your dreams a few years ago you shattered ours,we shattered yours last year!
    Obviously you didn't see my prediction for the game or else you would've known I picked Mooney to win by roughly the same score as the final!
    I even put down key players on my post! All of whom were keys to success in the victory! I have never once bashed Mooney even while joking!
  • Cmhs74
    Tank, I owe you an apology as I have given you some misinformation. Mooney has dashed Big Reds hopes 4 times not 3. Just wanted to straighten out that fact.
  • Mooney44Cards
    Quit using exclamation points! Its annoying! You are annoying all the Mooney and Poland fans on this thread! We will take care of Steubenville on the field! I'm sure if posting quantity won games Big Red would be perpetual state champs! Go away now!
  • SQ_Crazies
    Mooney44Cards wrote: Quit using exclamation points! Its annoying! You are annoying all the Mooney and Poland fans on this thread! We will take care of Steubenville on the field! I'm sure if posting quantity won games Big Red would be perpetual state champs! Go away now!
    On quantity for sure...quality? 0-10??
  • tank2nasty
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    Mooney44Cards wrote: Quit using exclamation points! Its annoying! You are annoying all the Mooney and Poland fans on this thread! We will take care of Steubenville on the field! I'm sure if posting quantity won games Big Red would be perpetual state champs! Go away now!
    On quantity for sure...quality? 0-10??
    LMAO not this Guy again.
    0-10. Kinda like Salem in 08:D

    You walked right into that one!
  • BigYtownRed
    24-7 is a nice showing for Poland the way Mooney has been smashing opponents. Glad to see that Poland is a tad better than Hubbard but obviously has a lot of work to do to push on to the next level.

    Now onto Mooney & hopefully another great game between these two Ohio powerhouses. Let the game begin.

    RRRmashmooney
  • cmhs_pride
    How everyone on this thread does not see what an outstanding game this could be on a yearly basis is beyond me. It really is. A shame these kind of games are not played in the Valley on a regular basis. Look at the amount of tension this game creates. Seriously. Read this entire thread and explain to me how in the hell this is not a regular season game. Listen to Coach Brungard talk when he is quoted. I don't get it folks. I do not get how you do not want a piece of or at least a chance to beat the best when you do indeed have the ability to beat them. Maybe not this year...but you were tied with one of the best Mooney teams this area has seen to date at halftime for cryin out loud. Next year...........I think you can beat them.

    All this crying and moaning by a few are pathetic in this Valley. Ten thousand people showed up for a reason last night...and it sure as hell was not because they thought they were going to a ballet. They were going to see a WAR.
  • SQ_Crazies
    tank2nasty wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    Mooney44Cards wrote: Quit using exclamation points! Its annoying! You are annoying all the Mooney and Poland fans on this thread! We will take care of Steubenville on the field! I'm sure if posting quantity won games Big Red would be perpetual state champs! Go away now!
    On quantity for sure...quality? 0-10??
    LMAO not this Guy again.
    0-10. Kinda like Salem in 08:D

    You walked right into that one!
    LOL, right, I walked right into it...like I didn't know that's what you'd come back with before I posted it. How many threads have you brought up Salem now? Still waiting for a reason...
  • tank2nasty
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    tank2nasty wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    Mooney44Cards wrote: Quit using exclamation points! Its annoying! You are annoying all the Mooney and Poland fans on this thread! We will take care of Steubenville on the field! I'm sure if posting quantity won games Big Red would be perpetual state champs! Go away now!
    On quantity for sure...quality? 0-10??
    LMAO not this Guy again.
    0-10. Kinda like Salem in 08:D

    You walked right into that one!
    LOL, right, I walked right into it...like I didn't know that's what you'd come back with before I posted it. How many threads have you brought up Salem now? Still waiting for a reason...
    Because you spew hatred for Big Red!
    And since I am a defender of THE REAL CRIMSON AND BLACK I must hit you where it hurts most!
    You act like it doesn't bother you but I can tell it does!
    I wonder if Salem woulda won, would you still be D*** riding Mooney so hard/
  • Cmhs74
    tank2nasty wrote:
    Cmhs74 wrote: tank2nasty Wrote:
    I guess Poland's fumble on the 3 meant nothing either huh?
    You Mooney cheerleaders kill me!
    Its gonna be fun watching Big Red shatter your dreams! AGAIN!

    Thanks tank, after seeing how your prediction on the Poland game didn't come true I feel much better about Mooney's chance against Big Red. And yes they did shatter our dreams a few years ago but we've shattered theirs on three other occasions. And yes I am a Mooney cheerleader, I'm faithful to my alma mater and don't have to roam the threads looking for teams to bash. Apparently you are so jealous of the Mooney program you'll go on any of their threads just to berate the Cardinals. I believe that's pretty pathetic.
    We didn't shatter your dreams a few years ago you shattered ours,we shattered yours last year!
    Obviously you didn't see my prediction for the game or else you would've known I picked Mooney to win by roughly the same score as the final!
    I even put down key players on my post! All of whom were keys to success in the victory! I have never once bashed Mooney even while joking!

    I did see your prediction for the game, in case you forgot. here it is:
    tank2nasty
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    RE: Cardinal Mooney v.s. Poland
    (11.17.2009 11:42 AM)SQ_Crazies Wrote:
    Alright big boy, put your money where your mouth is then...PM me if you want to make a wager on this game.

    Betting on high school football! (Shaking head)
    What would the Guy on the Quaker oats box have to say about that !
    I will never bet on a high school sport ! Though I will give a prediction!

    Poland 17

    Mooney 14
  • Cmhs74
    tank2nasty wrote:
    Cmhs74 wrote: tank2nasty Wrote:
    I guess Poland's fumble on the 3 meant nothing either huh?
    You Mooney cheerleaders kill me!
    Its gonna be fun watching Big Red shatter your dreams! AGAIN!

    Thanks tank, after seeing how your prediction on the Poland game didn't come true I feel much better about Mooney's chance against Big Red. And yes they did shatter our dreams a few years ago but we've shattered theirs on three other occasions. And yes I am a Mooney cheerleader, I'm faithful to my alma mater and don't have to roam the threads looking for teams to bash. Apparently you are so jealous of the Mooney program you'll go on any of their threads just to berate the Cardinals. I believe that's pretty pathetic.
    We didn't shatter your dreams a few years ago you shattered ours,we shattered yours last year!
    Obviously you didn't see my prediction for the game or else you would've known I picked Mooney to win by roughly the same score as the final!
    I even put down key players on my post! All of whom were keys to success in the victory! I have never once bashed Mooney even while joking!

    I did see your prediction for the game, in case you forgot. here it is:
    tank2nasty
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    Posts: 184
    Joined: Nov 2009
    Location:

    RE: Cardinal Mooney v.s. Poland
    (11.17.2009 11:42 AM)SQ_Crazies Wrote:
    Alright big boy, put your money where your mouth is then...PM me if you want to make a wager on this game.

    Betting on high school football! (Shaking head)
    What would the Guy on the Quaker oats box have to say about that !
    I will never bet on a high school sport ! Though I will give a prediction!

    Poland 17

    Mooney 14
  • Mooney44Cards
    haha wow tank. And don't forget how you guys shut down the 5th ranked running back in the country who is actually ranked 44th. Seriously I wonder what garbage you're going to spew next.
  • tank2nasty
    tank2nasty wrote: Poland will have to hit early and often!
    Wollet will have to lead this D in stopping the running attack of Mooney.
    If able to force third & 4 Poland's chances dramatically increase!
    You have to make Mooney beat you with the pass! Poland has a very talented secondary they will play a big factor! If Poland can score early they have a good shot at pulling out the upset!
    Mooney will need to avoid TO's ,they will need to be cautious of trick plays and onside kicks.
    If Mooney can establish the run and score early this game can get ugly. Mooney is the best in the state at maintaining a lead!
    Braylon Heard will be Mooney's biggest factor defensively and offensively!
    If he has a big game Mooney wins!
    This is the most interesting match up of the night!
    Here's to a hard fought injury free match up of my two favorite non Ohio Valley schools!
    My prediction is
    Mooney 28
    Poland 14
    Barring any key mistakes! Though I believe if Poland can execute to perfection (which I've seen them do it can easily be 17-14 the other way!
    How bout you find the most recent prediction!

    Genius
    That wasn't too bad of a prediction was it?
  • tank2nasty
    Mooney44Cards wrote: haha wow tank. And don't forget how you guys shut down the 5th ranked running back in the country who is actually ranked 44th. Seriously I wonder what garbage you're going to spew next.
    Well tell these WPIAL announcers that they're who I hear that from every week!
    P.S. read my last post in which I quoted myself!
    Smart Guy!
    But you're right I should have done my own research.
  • Mooney44Cards
    hey can I make a prediction for this weeks game, one where Mooney wins and one where Mooney loses and that way I can quote whichever one ends up being right and look so smart and come on here and say I told you so?
  • bulldog8
    I just got back to my computer after my trip to Ohio to see this great game between two quality opponents. I feel as if I need to defend Poland a bit here and look at things from the "blue and white" perspective. Everyone on here is so anxious to see Poland play Mooney every year, but cmon people. Let's look at this from Poland's perspective. I agree that one should never back away from a challenge, but is this really reasonable in this case? Yes, the Dogs hung in the game last night and only lost 24-7. This game could have been closer if Poland scored the late touchdown or capitalized on Mooney turnovers. BUT, this game could have been way worse in Mooney's favor. Mooney was obviously bigger, faster, stronger, and a better team. They dominated the line of scrimage and many Mooney huddlers are right that they beat themselves in the first half. Now, I am a die hard Poland fan and would love to credit Poland's defense for keeping them in the game in the first half, but this thing could have been ugly. I give tremendous credit to Mooney because they are a phenomenal team and deserve to go very far. Their players were so respectful last night, helping Poland players up, that I couldn't help but stand and clap and give them their due respect. That's a classy group of young men, classy coaching staff, and their fans were great. I also tip my cap to Poland on a fine season and making us Poland fans so proud.

    So now I will propose this to my fellow huddlers. This was one of the best Poland teams in years past, probably since 2001, if not possibly the 1999 state championship team. This being said, Mooney still beat them convincingly last night. Some may say a 17 point loss doesn't indicate how close this game was, but I say that 24-7 doesn't indicate how much better Mooney was than Poland. This Mooney team can power run through anyone in the state. So why should Poland play them every year in the regular season? They would have most definitely lost to them in the regular season and regardless of how respectfully you hang with a team, you get zero (and I repeat ZERO) computer points for a loss. Taking the next step, becoming the best by playing the best, doesn't mean diddly squat if you lose enough games and don't have enough points to make the playoffs. So what if Poland scheduled Mooney instead of Chaney or Normandy, they would have been sitting at 7-3 in the region instead of 8-2 and definitely not having a first round playoff game, playing a more difficult opponent and possibly not advancing as far in the playoffs. Now, some may say that it gets Poland tons of points IF they win. To me, this is the biggest if ever imaginable. It's like saying well, you can have a million bucks if you walk across 6 lanes of traffic without getting hit by a car.....let's agree that the chances of a Poland win are not very great. So as an athletic director or a coach, wouldn't you prefer to play teams that you match up well against and can earn a victory and computer points. You can say all you want about the Chaney game and taking them off the schedule to play Mooney, but beating a 1-9 Chaney team gets Poland more computer points than a loss to Mooney. Considering the future, Poland will lose 7 starters on offense next year and 8 starters on defense. In my opinion, Poland will struggle next year even with Reardon and Patton returning at QB and WR respectively. They will pass successfully, but will be one-dimensional. If Poland and Mooney lined up in the regular season next year, I think that Mooney would reload where they lose stud athletes and I feel that they would beat Poland easily. You can call me soft, call me conservative, tell me im cheating Poland's kids, but to be honest, I think Poland's AD and coach have done the right thing. They put their kids in situations where they can win the game. It's a lot easier to sit in Mooney fans' shoes and say these two should play every year because you know it would be a solid win year in and year out. If i've learned anything from my college education, it is that you need to sit back and look at a situation from both sides of the story. I completely understand where Mooney fans are coming from in their desire to play Poland, but I also feel that Mooney fans should put themselves in Poland's shoes and see where they are coming from. You say that a team must play the best to be the best, but I say that to be the best, first you have to make the playoffs, and if you stack your schedule with games that are very difficult to win, you simply won't muster up enough victories for a playoff birth. I can easily see both sides to this argument. If Poland loses Steubenville from their schedule and they pick up Mooney, the outcome could be very similar to the last 2 years. Poland gets beat by their one powerhouse on the schedule and maybe slips in one conference game and still makes the playoffs. However, as much as I hate to say it, I simply do not think Poland has the talent to stack up with the Cards every year. I just think people need to see both sides of this situation and understand it's a little more difficult decision than just going all gung-ho and scheduling out of your skill level. This is just a testament to how good Mooney is year in and year out.

    Once again, hats off to Mooney and their program. It's great to see someone go old-school and run the ball right down your throat. Mooney is probably the best i've seen in doing this. In a time of spread offense and misdirection, I love to see a traditional style and see someone do it successfully. I wish Mooney all the best next week against Steubenville. The class of your fans, young men, and program prove that you deserve nothing but the best.

    Congratulations to the Poland Bulldogs on a fine season and best of luck to those seniors in their future endeavors. This team was a pleasure to watch all season and made the entire community proud. To the underclassmen, work hard in the off-season and prepare for next season!
  • Mooney44Cards
    I guess that's the difference between Mooney's program and a lot of other local teams. Mooney lines up each week across from 11 guys from some of the best programs in the state and sometimes the country. Yes I know you say that's easy to do when you're as good as Mooney but you miss the point. No one is asking Poland to schedule Mooney, Ignatius, Elder, St. X, Glenville, Colerain, McKinley, and Watterson. I wouldn't expect Poland to travel far to play some perennial power (yet they do anyway). This would be ONE game each year. Poland is the cream of the crop in the MAC or the AAC or whatever its called and if you can't run the table in that conference and afford to MAYBE lose to a great team, you aren't gonna go very far in the playoffs if you even get there. So if you guys are happy with just GETTING to the playoffs, keep us off the schedule. But at Mooney we EXPECT to win state every year and it shows in how the team plays and carries themselves week to week. So clear out room in your trophy case for that runner-up trophy, I hope you guys enjoy it. But that 99 trophy will be awfully lonely for a long time as long as the Poland community shares the opinion of bulldog8. Meanwhile, Mooney and Poland players will have to hope lady luck matches them up in the playoffs while they happen to both share the same division.

    congrats on being the cream of the crop in the conference-formerly-known-as-the-MAC.
  • tank2nasty
    Mooney44Cards wrote: I guess that's the difference between Mooney's program and a lot of other local teams. Mooney lines up each week across from 11 guys from some of the best programs in the state and sometimes the country. Yes I know you say that's easy to do when you're as good as Mooney but you miss the point. No one is asking Poland to schedule Mooney, Ignatius, Elder, St. X, Glenville, Colerain, McKinley, and Watterson. I wouldn't expect Poland to travel far to play some perennial power (yet they do anyway). This would be ONE game each year. Poland is the cream of the crop in the MAC or the AAC or whatever its called and if you can't run the table in that conference and afford to MAYBE lose to a great team, you aren't gonna go very far in the playoffs if you even get there. So if you guys are happy with just GETTING to the playoffs, keep us off the schedule. But at Mooney we EXPECT to win state every year and it shows in how the team plays and carries themselves week to week. So clear out room in your trophy case for that runner-up trophy, I hope you guys enjoy it. But that 99 trophy will be awfully lonely for a long time as long as the Poland community shares the opinion of bulldog8. Meanwhile, Mooney and Poland players will have to hope lady luck matches them up in the playoffs while they happen to both share the same division.

    congrats on being the cream of the crop in the conference-formerly-known-as-the-MAC.
    If Mooney is so great why don't they play any D1 powerhouses?
    And you better not even think of mentioning Boardman!
  • sherm03
    tank2nasty wrote:
    Mooney44Cards wrote: I guess that's the difference between Mooney's program and a lot of other local teams. Mooney lines up each week across from 11 guys from some of the best programs in the state and sometimes the country. Yes I know you say that's easy to do when you're as good as Mooney but you miss the point. No one is asking Poland to schedule Mooney, Ignatius, Elder, St. X, Glenville, Colerain, McKinley, and Watterson. I wouldn't expect Poland to travel far to play some perennial power (yet they do anyway). This would be ONE game each year. Poland is the cream of the crop in the MAC or the AAC or whatever its called and if you can't run the table in that conference and afford to MAYBE lose to a great team, you aren't gonna go very far in the playoffs if you even get there. So if you guys are happy with just GETTING to the playoffs, keep us off the schedule. But at Mooney we EXPECT to win state every year and it shows in how the team plays and carries themselves week to week. So clear out room in your trophy case for that runner-up trophy, I hope you guys enjoy it. But that 99 trophy will be awfully lonely for a long time as long as the Poland community shares the opinion of bulldog8. Meanwhile, Mooney and Poland players will have to hope lady luck matches them up in the playoffs while they happen to both share the same division.

    congrats on being the cream of the crop in the conference-formerly-known-as-the-MAC.
    If Mooney is so great why don't they play any D1 powerhouses?
    And you better not even think of mentioning Boardman!
    You mean like Moeller next year? Is that a big enough of a powerhouse for you?
  • Mooney44Cards
    Well, Moeller is on the schedule next year. Harding is on the schedule every year. We've had St. Eds on the schedule in the past. We'd love to play Iggy but I doubt they'd see much in it for them. We played St. X in the 80s. We scrimmage Glenville pretty much every year now. If there was a D1 powerhouse in OUR backyard you can be sure we wouldn't duck them.

    My point wasn't for Poland to schedule Mooney just cuz they're good, my point was Poland should schedule Mooney cuz its a natural rivalry and the kids shouldn't be deprived of that cuz some fans and community members are afraid of losing.
  • bulldog8
    This argument is just stupid....no one will ever agree on it. I just don't see how Poland improves by going out and getting pushed around and potentially injured by going up against a team loaded with Division 1 athletes. You know what, I hope Poland schedules Mooney every year in football from here on out. Then we will see what the outcome of the situation is. If losing to Mooney every year makes them a better team and they advance further in the playoffs then i'll put my foot in my mouth and say hey everyone else was right and I was wrong. All those beatings by Mooney really boosted our confidence and got us to the next level. I'm sorry that we do not see eye to eye regarding this matter, but I just don't think losses to perennial powers does anything to better your program. Evidently those losses to Steubenville, Ursuline, and Kettering Alter in years past didn't have the effect that everyone claims "playing the best" does. We can argue all we want, but things won't change. I highly doubt Poland will schedule this game anytime soon so it's silly to have a pissing contest about who should do what. All I know is, that was a very entertaining game last night and Mooney has a darn good team. Once again, nothing but respect for those young men and coaches.....They've really got it all together this year. Best of luck next week against Steubenville!
  • tank2nasty
    Good season Poland!
    We wish you the best of luck next season!

    You will always have the respect of Steubenville!
  • Rocket08
    tank2nasty wrote: Good season Poland!
    We wish you the best of luck next season!

    You will always have the respect of Steubenville!
    I'm sure that made his day