Orrville Red Rider Football 2012

• BRF

  

  Yes, he was used sparingly during the season. I can't remember the exact circumstance as I was home from college for that game.
• RedRider1

  

  I wasn't born so I can't speak to it.
  
  I've got a scan of an old Courier article about that game & the next 2 on my site somewhere.
• BRF

  

  I have seen the article on your self-serving trumpet blowing site! I can tell you that the fans were ecstatic!
• RedRider1

  

  Happy reading!
  
  http://www.redridersportsblog.com/2008/10/wooster-game-classics-griggs-years.html
  
  648 yards rushing & 9 TD's for Griggs in 3 games vs. Wooster. Wow.
• Series62

  Troll King;1277463 wrote:Boo Whoo . Take your ball and go home. It's a shame because three people on here's opinions don't match the rest of the people you others just bash us. If we don't fall in line with the rest of you that automatically makes us morons or idiots. Your opinions are obviously the only ones that you think matter. As I said earlier I speak on what I see without fear of hurting a friends feelings. Obviously all you other people on here belong to the same club, because you all say the exact same things. If someone from outside of your little club speaks their opinion than they're automatically wrong.

  They're all salty because the Red Riders have a losing record and it appears that its going to get worse.
• Series62

  RIDER DAD;1277432 wrote:I did not sign up for this, RedRider 1 have Zook (he won’t get on either because of the tone) text me when things calm down, for now I will not get on Ohio chatter, this is horrible, you three should reconsider your approach to this site.
  
  Good luck team
  Thank you coaches for your hard work
  I am out!!!!

  Didn't you sign up to talk football? As a true fan, shouldn't you stick with your team win or lose? Don't be a quitter! What kind of example are you setting for the team?
• OQB

  

  Series62;1278689 wrote:They're all salty because the Red Riders have a losing record and it appears that its going to get worse.

  It seems like you guys have more of a problem with the losing and are directly relating it to coaching.
  
  We all knew this was going to be a rough year, honestly I'm not surprised what our record is. I'm just as frustrated about losing than anyone, but 1 bad season doesn't call for a complete overhaul of the program.
• Series62

  OQB;1278714 wrote:It seems like you guys have more of a problem with the losing and are directly relating it to coaching.
  
  We all knew this was going to be a rough year, honestly I'm not surprised what our record is. I'm just as frustrated about losing than anyone, but 1 bad season doesn't call for a complete overhaul of the program.

  I don't have a problem with it as it makes no difference to me. It's rather amusing to see you guys cringe after all your tall talk. And you know it's killing you to see the Riders lose to WCAL teams and Triway, despite how few and far it happens.
  
  As far as program overhaul, well even you and yours have been crying about the predictable plays and play-calling, but when someone you either don't like or know says it, you get defensive and start crying about player/coach bashing.
  
  Where were you when your buddies posted? old rider #1207 and rrfan #1212.
• 1_beast

  

  Series62;1278736 wrote:I don't have a problem with it as it makes no difference to me. It's rather amusing to see you guys cringe after all your tall talk. And you know it's killing you to see the Riders lose to WCAL teams and Triway, despite how few and far it happens.
  
  As far as program overhaul, well even you and yours have been crying about the predictable plays and play-calling, but when someone you either don't like or know says it, you get defensive and start crying about player/coach bashing.
  
  Where were you when your buddies posted? old rider #1207 and rrfan #1212.

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• Troll King

  Series62;1278736 wrote:I don't have a problem with it as it makes no difference to me. It's rather amusing to see you guys cringe after all your tall talk. And you know it's killing you to see the Riders lose to WCAL teams and Triway, despite how few and far it happens.
  
  As far as program overhaul, well even you and yours have been crying about the predictable plays and play-calling, but when someone you either don't like or know says it, you get defensive and start crying about player/coach bashing.
  
  Where were you when your buddies posted? old rider #1207 and rrfan #1212.

  well said !
• Series62

  1_beast...LOLOLOLOL!!!
  
  Stop it!
  
  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
• RedRider1

  

  Fantastic50 says we have the 4th toughest strength of schedule in all of D-4.
  
  The 4 teams that have beat us are a combined 16-4...and WH will bring a perfect 5-0 record to town this week.
  
  http://www.fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio_Region_13
• 1_beast

  

  Series62;1278761 wrote:1_beast...LOLOLOLOL!!!
  
  Stop it!
  
  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

  you obviously missed the sarcasm
• Series62

  No, I didn't miss it, your useless sarcasm is just plain funny!
• 5knots

  

  Unfortunately I have not been able to see the Red Riders play this year so I can't address some of the discussion. One thing I can address is the questioning of the competence of Coach Haley and his ability to teach kids how to tackle. REALLY? Show me a coach in a DIV program with the track record of coach Haley in developing defensive players. I'll give you a bit of a pass because maybe you were ticked off after a loss. I've been there and done that, but you need to rethink that statement.
  Also saw a couple jabs about a kid not knowing how to play a certain position correctly....coaches would probably agree with you on a few of those players but my guess is that is the best we have available and all you can do is keep coaching and hope he gets better. Orrville picked a bad year to struggle given our level of competition. Keep working Riders. Every game is a new opportunity to challenge yourself. Five Knots and crew are pulling for you every week
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• Red Rider Nation

  5knots;1278981 wrote:Unfortunately I have not been able to see the Red Riders play this year so I can't address some of the discussion. One thing I can address is the questioning of the competence of Coach Haley and his ability to teach kids how to tackle. REALLY? Show me a coach in a DIV program with the track record of coach Haley in developing defensive players. I'll give you a bit of a pass because maybe you were ticked off after a loss. I've been there and done that, but you need to rethink that statement.
  Also saw a couple jabs about a kid not knowing how to play a certain position correctly....coaches would probably agree with you on a few of those players but my guess is that is the best we have available and all you can do is keep coaching and hope he gets better. Orrville picked a bad year to struggle given our level of competition. Keep working Riders. Every game is a new opportunity to challenge yourself. Five Knots and crew are pulling for you every week
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  5knots I hope you are able to attend a game this year and let us know your true opinion. Like I have said it is not the wins and losses that bother me it is the repeated lack of knowing the game from the leader that really does. Let me give you one of numerous examples: 2 years ago in the playoff game against Triway we had the game won and got the ball back with less then a minute on the clock. All we had to do was run the clock out, take a knee or keep it on the ground and Coach Davault was throwing it! Who on earth would do that in that situation? Can you honestly explain that one to me? Everyone in the stadium that night was yelling take a knee!!! Maybe I have the details wrong but thats how I remembered it. There are a lot of excuses going on in Orrville right now talking about a lack of talent and we are undersized and I dont buy any of it! We are smaller than our opponents always!
• Series62

  5knots;1278981 wrote:...teach kids how to tackle. REALLY?...

  Well, there have been quite a bit of missed tackles thus far!
  

  5knots;1278981 wrote:...Also saw a couple jabs about a kid not knowing how to play a certain position correctly...coaches would probably agree with you on a few of those players but my guess is that is the best we have available and all you can do is keep coaching and hope he gets better.

  Well, there was several "jabs" regarding players not knowing their position and the football IQ being lacking. Of course, depending upon who said it made the difference between it having value and/or considered bashing.
  
  Such a comment was made about the backup qb. I feel that since your season is what it is at this point, the starting qb is a senior and you know what you are/aren't going to get from him, don't you think the coach should begin the "grooming" process for your next qb who currently is a sophomore, with some real game experience and teaching him the spread offense if you're insistent on running it.
• Old Rider

  

  Most tackiling drills are done during individual position work, I have a hard time blaming the D-coord for that. Now, he is the LB's coach, so if the linebackers aren't tackling, then yes he needs to have those guys doing tackling drills.
  
  However any coach would tell you that not every kid has that aggressive bone and is willing to stick his nose in there and hit someone. A good football player doesn't need daily reminders of how to tackle!
  
  Thoughness CANNOT be taught IMO...you either have it or you don't!
• rrfan

  

  Series- I see where you are going with the QB situation but the more I watch Lichti the more I feel bad for the kid. Probably over 25-30 drops this season and he is consistantly running for his life as he is trying to pick the snap off of the ground. His stats are better if anyone can catch. Just my two cents.
• Old Rider

  

  Series62;1279063 wrote:Such a comment was made about the backup qb. I feel that since your season is what it is at this point, the starting qb is a senior and you know what you are/aren't going to get from him, don't you think the coach should begin the "grooming" process for your next qb who currently is a sophomore, with some real game experience and teaching him the spread offense if you're insistent on running it.

  I agree. I would like to see Bryce get more snaps and begin grooming him for next season.
• RedRider1

  

  I said 2 weeks ago that I'd be fine with that...so long as its being done to give him the best possible shot to succeed...and I believe that's in a run formation (not the spread) like some sort of read-option look.
• Troll King

  RedRider1;1279179 wrote:I said 2 weeks ago that I'd be fine with that...so long as its being done to give him the best possible shot to succeed...and I believe that's in a run formation (not the spread) like some sort of read-option look.

  like it or not we are stuck with a spread. That is one of the things that angers me , Devault's unwillingness or inability to change the offense. We clearly do not have the talent for the spread offense so why on earth wont he change it to something that fits our type of players. Like the option or the wing T, you don't have to have a lot of size to run those offenses.
• Red Rider Nation

  rrfan;1279127 wrote:Series- I see where you are going with the QB situation but the more I watch Lichti the more I feel bad for the kid. Probably over 25-30 drops this season and he is consistantly running for his life as he is trying to pick the snap off of the ground. His stats are better if anyone can catch. Just my two cents.

  
  All the more reason to run the ball! So sounds like you are saying the center cant snap and the receivers cant catch right? Again then RUN the football and you will NOT be successful running the football all the time out of the shotgun. That is just common sense but then again that is what i am questioning here: COMMON SENSE!
• Troll King

  5knots;1278981 wrote:Unfortunately I have not been able to see the Red Riders play this year so I can't address some of the discussion. One thing I can address is the questioning of the competence of Coach Haley and his ability to teach kids how to tackle. REALLY? Show me a coach in a DIV program with the track record of coach Haley in developing defensive players. I'll give you a bit of a pass because maybe you were ticked off after a loss. I've been there and done that, but you need to rethink that statement.
  Also saw a couple jabs about a kid not knowing how to play a certain position correctly....coaches would probably agree with you on a few of those players but my guess is that is the best we have available and all you can do is keep coaching and hope he gets better. Orrville picked a bad year to struggle given our level of competition. Keep working Riders. Every game is a new opportunity to challenge yourself. Five Knots and crew are pulling for you every week
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  in my opinion coach Haley is the only coach on the staff who really knows how to coach football players. He certainly knows the xs and os part of the game better than the other coaches.
• Red Rider Nation

  Troll King;1279293 wrote:like it or not we are stuck with a spread. That is one of the things that angers me , Devault's unwillingness or inability to change the offense. We clearly do not have the talent for the spread offense so why on earth wont he change it to something that fits our type of players. Like the option or the wing T, you don't have to have a lot of size to run those offenses.

  
  Run the veer baby!