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2017 Browns Off-Season Thread

  • iclfan2
    vball10set;1868333 wrote:He's obviously the best of the three, but I sure hope he (and the Oline) are ready.
    With JT and Bitonio playing, I think the line should be much improved and what makes me think is part of the reason they thought Kizer should be good to go. If our line was still terrible you wouldn't want to put a rookie out there (who takes long in the pocket) to get killed.

    Also, was last weeks talking up Brock just some sort of BS out of camp or what?
  • kizer permanente
    like_that;1868334 wrote:I honestly don't give a fuck what the rest of the team thinks. They all need to focus on playing better, before they start QQing about the coaching staff evalautions of their teammates.
    But it still matters. A HC always is going to set the precedent. He's always going to set the tone of the locker room. To say you don't care or it doesn't matter is a bit disingenuous imo.
  • like_that
    kizer permanente;1868337 wrote:But it still matters. A HC always is going to set the precedent. He's always going to set the tone of the locker room. To say you don't care or it doesn't matter is a bit disingenuous imo.
    In a season where the Browns will be going nowhere, excuse me for not giving a fuck if some players get butthurt, because they believe brock will give them a 5 win season instead of a 2-3 win season. Each player needs to focus on doing their job (whjich hasn't been done in the 10 years if you have been paying attention), before they start QQing about other jobs.
  • kizer permanente
    like_that;1868339 wrote:In a season where the Browns will be going nowhere, excuse me for not giving a fuck if some players get butthurt, because they believe brock will give them a 5 win season instead of a 2-3 win season. Each player needs to focus on doing their job (whjich hasn't been done in the 10 years if you have been paying attention), before they start QQing about other jobs.
    I highly doubt any of the players think Brock would give them a 5 win season, and that's the whole point of this. It would have been safe for Hue to go with the veteran as far as looks go. It's not a secret the team thinks Kizer is better. Hence, the bad look from the players perspective.
    Hue made the right move. I think you agree with that. You just don't care if it sent the right message. That's fine. But I think it does/did.
  • like_that
    kizer permanente;1868340 wrote:I highly doubt any of the players think Brock would give them a 5 win season, and that's the whole point of this. It would have been safe for Hue to go with the veteran as far as looks go. It's not a secret the team thinks Kizer is better. Hence, the bad look from the players perspective.
    Hue made the right move. I think you agree with that. You just don't care if it sent the right message. That's fine. But I think it does/did.
    My post was based on reports that the players expect and want Brock to start the season.
  • kizer permanente
    like_that;1868342 wrote:My post was based on reports that the players expect and want Brock to start the season.
    Ok. I haven't seen any of those. I saw Thomas expected BO to start, but he never indicated he'd prefer him. I've never heard any player say they prefer him? I have seen multiple players praise Kizer though.
  • Con_Alma
    Osweiler isn't scheduled to play at all in the final preseason game which is unusual...unless they are trying to deal him. There's a rumor out there that the Browns may be in talks with the Colts regarding Osweiler. What's Andrew Luck's injury status???
  • vball10set
    iclfan2;1868335 wrote: Also, was last weeks talking up Brock just some sort of BS out of camp or what?
    This...
    Con_Alma;1868352 wrote:Osweiler isn't scheduled to play at all in the final preseason game which is unusual...unless they are trying to deal him. There's a rumor out there that the Browns may be in talks with the Colts regarding Osweiler. What's Andrew Luck's injury status???
  • like_that
    Please be true.
  • Con_Alma
    http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/reports-browns-looking-to-trade-brock-osweiler-colts-potential-destination/
  • Commander of Awesome
    SportsAndLady;1868331 wrote:Surprised they actually made the correct move
    I thought the same thing.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Phllip Dorsett perhaps?
  • kizer permanente
    Given that the Texans had to give us a 2nd rounder to take Osweiler, I can't imagine there's a market for him.
  • like_that
    kizer permanente;1868367 wrote:Given that the Texans had to give us a 2nd rounder to take Osweiler, I can't imagine there's a market for him.
    I'd take a box of footballs.
  • kizer permanente
    like_that;1868368 wrote:I'd take a box of footballs.
    lol anything would be nice. Is anyone desperate enough to trade for him though? There's literally thousands of Brock Osweilers in the world that don't make 18 mil.
  • Commander of Awesome
    kizer permanente;1868369 wrote:lol anything would be nice. Is anyone desperate enough to trade for him though? There's literally thousands of Brock Osweilers in the world that don't make 18 mil.
    Oh yeah? Name 50.
  • Heretic
    Con_Alma;1868352 wrote:Osweiler isn't scheduled to play at all in the final preseason game which is unusual...unless they are trying to deal him. There's a rumor out there that the Browns may be in talks with the Colts regarding Osweiler. What's Andrew Luck's injury status???
    If they want Oswiler, possibly deceased.
  • BR1986FB
    Very pleased they are going with Kizer. Hopefully he shows well.
  • kizer permanente
    Commander of Awesome;1868371 wrote:Oh yeah? Name 50.
    How about you google every depth chart in the nfl and cfl and ex college QB's that aren't in either league and there's your answer.
  • Commander of Awesome
    kizer permanente;1868376 wrote:How about you google every depth chart in the nfl and cfl and ex college QB's that aren't in either league and there's your answer.
    Thousands huh? LOL
  • kizer permanente
    Commander of Awesome;1868404 wrote:Thousands huh? LOL
    Glad to know you appreciate Osweilers ability. Remind me to never listen to you when it comes to football. LOL (was the all caps lol right?)
  • like_that
    kizer permanente;1868414 wrote:Glad to know you appreciate Osweilers ability. Remind me to never listen to you when it comes to football. LOL (was the all caps lol right?)
    The joke went over your head.
  • kizer permanente
    like_that;1868416 wrote:The joke went over your head.
    There was a joke? It wasn't very good then.
  • kizer permanente
    I think I get the joke. Everyone, including us, think Osweiler is terrible. I just think he's as terrible as a lot of people and you only think he's as terrible as most people. Lol. And we're arguing the degree of his terribleness! Lol. This definitely seems like a worthwhile argument lol
  • BR1986FB
    Sounds like the front office's plan (not necessarily Hue's) was to start Kizer, in week 1, all along. Pretty shitty idea taking away reps from him so they could try to showcase Osweiler for a trade, imo.