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Dr. KnOiTaLL

robj55;1731171 wrote:Will it effect their ability to re-sign Love?

No, we have his Bird rights as well

robj55

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1731173 wrote:No, we have his Bird rights as well

Thanks

SportsAndLady

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1731172 wrote:You've been reading BSPN

Nope. I'm not a blind follower of ESPN and other media sites.

Just my opinion. I don't think Love is unhappy in Cleveland. Just a hunch that he won't resign here.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong. And will gladly eat crow if I am.

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sleeper

Footwedge;1731150 wrote:I think the odds will drop like a lead balloon and just checked, they already have. Warriors down to minus 235. I don't understand the love fest for the Warriors...if one breaks it down player by player. For example, Curry is the reigning MVP. But who would you rather have in the playoff finals? Curry or LeBron? I think the answer is pretty obvious. Clay Thompson or Kyrie? Again, even though still hobbled, I'll take Irving. Draymond Green or TT? Edge to Cavs. Shump, Delly and JR vs. Iguadala, Barbosa and whoever else= wash.

I get the home court advantage thing but to have the Warriors at better than 2-1 is plain old nuts.

Gonna wire in the money and make a small fortune on this baby.

I think Shumpert can contain Curry fairly well, but again who's going to guard Lebron? No one on that team can do it which is the exact same problem that the Hawks had. Butler for the Bulls was the only player who was able to somewhat contain Lebron but he doesn't suit up for the Warriors.

Harrison Barnes will get burned so bad this series he may retire at the end of the season to save future embarrassment. I don't think the Cavs sweep but it wouldn't shock me at all to see them win in 5. I'll stick with Cavs in 6.

sleeper

SportsAndLady;1731170 wrote:I really don't think Love resigns in Cleveland. He wants to be in LA. Just a gut feeling.

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No chance. If Love leaves, it will be because the Cavs don't want him and not the other way around. He's a Cav, book it.

Ironman92

Might be the only time I'll root for the Rockets....extra days off won't hurt

sleeper

Ironman92;1731182 wrote:Might be the only time I'll root for the Rockets....extra days off won't hurt

I think the Finals start at the same time no matter what but it lessens the days the Warriors get to rest up without having to play.

robj55

Their front line next year could include Mozgov, Love, Thompson, Verajao and Lebron, unreal.

Commander of Awesome

SportsAndLady;1731177 wrote:Nope. I'm not a blind follower of ESPN and other media sites.

Just my opinion. I don't think Love is unhappy in Cleveland. Just a hunch that he won't resign here.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong. And will gladly eat crow if I am.

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Whether Love stays or goes is irrelevant to cap I think, we're still over the cap either way.

SportsAndLady

Commander of Awesome;1731194 wrote:Whether Love stays or goes is irrelevant to cap I think, we're still over the cap either way.

Yeah it really has nothing to do with money to me. Just think Love is someone who will take his ring and go play in a major city as "the man".

It's just a guess too. I really hVe no basis for my prediction.

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rydawg5

SportsAndLady;1731177 wrote:Nope. I'm not a blind follower of ESPN and other media sites.

Just my opinion. I don't think Love is unhappy in Cleveland. Just a hunch that he won't resign here.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong. And will gladly eat crow if I am.

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I agree. I have been hearing from media he is likely to re-sign with cavs. But to me, he seems like his heart is west coast and being a main cog for lakers and being home is more attractive than being lost in the shuffle in Cuyahoga county.

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Lovejoy1984

http://www.stereogum.com/1803494/lil-b-may-have-cursed-james-harden-in-last-nights-western-conference-finals-game/video/

Thanks to Iman, looks like the Cavs have avoided the Lil B curse.

Lovejoy1984

Also, Kevin Love isn't leaving the Cavs, this season anyway. He may after next year, but not this year. I don't think he's leaving period. (Unless the Cavs move him, or tell him to move on)

And I've gotta think he realizes he'll take and make more memorable shots as a member of the Cavs in the next 4-5 years, as the 3rd option, as he would in LA as the #1 guy.

slingshot4ever

We never should have given up wiggins for him. It is clear we don't need him, nor is he worth the money.

Lovejoy1984

slingshot4ever;1731212 wrote:We never should have given up wiggins for him. It is clear we don't need him, nor is he worth the money.

LOL?

Crimson streak

slingshot4ever;1731212 wrote:We never should have given up wiggins for him. It is clear we don't need him, nor is he worth the money.

Lol is this a joke? With a healthy love and kyrie, I honestly would expect a sweep or 5 games max in the finals. We saw once love went out how we struggled with Chicago until LeBron decided he wanted to take over and dominate. And plus we already have way too many wing scorers on this team. It made sense to deal him for love

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rydawg5

I kinda agree with slingshot .. Seems like Tristan impacts the team in a different way that tremendously helps this team. With that rebound edge it seems like this team clicks better with Tristan over love

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Lovejoy1984

Why people are still hung up on Andrew Wiggins is beyond me? He's 3-4 years away from even being close to the same caliber player that Kevin Love is.

Andrew Wiggins, would barely be sniffing the floor if we swapped him out with Love, and kept everything else the same. But the fact the matter is, if we still had Wiggins, we wouldn't have Smith, or Shumpert. Probably wouldn't have Mozgov either. We'd be looking at a:

Kyrie
Dion
LBJ
TT
Haywood/Perk

with a bench of Miller, Wiggins, Delly, Marion.

You make the move to acquire a consensus Top 15 player 10 out of 10 times.

Why we're still discussing Wiggins is beyond me.

Dr. KnOiTaLL

HighRoller74;1731239 wrote:Why people are still hung up on Andrew Wiggins is beyond me? He's 3-4 years away from even being close to the same caliber player that Kevin Love is.

Andrew Wiggins, would barely be sniffing the floor if we swapped him out with Love, and kept everything else the same. But the fact the matter is, if we still had Wiggins, we wouldn't have Smith, or Shumpert. Probably wouldn't have Mozgov either. We'd be looking at a:

Kyrie
Dion
LBJ
TT
Haywood/Perk

with a bench of Miller, Wiggins, Delly, Marion.

You make the move to acquire a consensus Top 15 player 10 out of 10 times.

Why we're still discussing Wiggins is beyond me.

This. Reps

SportsAndLady

HighRoller74;1731239 wrote:Why people are still hung up on Andrew Wiggins is beyond me? He's 3-4 years away from even being close to the same caliber player that Kevin Love is.

Andrew Wiggins, would barely be sniffing the floor if we swapped him out with Love, and kept everything else the same. But the fact the matter is, if we still had Wiggins, we wouldn't have Smith, or Shumpert. Probably wouldn't have Mozgov either. We'd be looking at a:

Kyrie
Dion
LBJ
TT
Haywood/Perk

with a bench of Miller, Wiggins, Delly, Marion.

You make the move to acquire a consensus Top 15 player 10 out of 10 times.

Why we're still discussing Wiggins is beyond me.

Uhh I don't agree with sling's post but LOL at that lineup. There's no way that would be our lineup.

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Lovejoy1984

SportsAndLady;1731250 wrote:Uhh I don't agree with sling's post but LOL at that lineup. There's no way that would be our lineup.

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How would it not?

Varejao is hurt, so we don't have another big. I'm not gonna speculate on moves we might've made, so maybe we still dump the draft picks for Mozgov, but extremely unlikely that we'd have traded Dion for two Wings, when we had Wiggins waiting in the wings.

Laley23

Dion would've been traded for something, and Moz was a 100% trade when AV went down, especially with his history with Blatt. He wanted him pre injury.

Debating the trade is stupid. Debating whether you could've gotten Love for less is up for debate.

Lovejoy1984

Laley23;1731256 wrote:Dion would've been traded for something, and Moz was a 100% trade when AV went down, especially with his history with Blatt. He wanted him pre injury.

Debating the trade is stupid. Debating whether you could've gotten Love for less is up for debate.

I'm curious as to what you think it would take on the bolded.

We were lucky we got what we got out of Dion, as he'll be out of the NBA within 2 years.

Laley23

HighRoller74;1731257 wrote:I'm curious as to what you think it would take on the bolded.

We were lucky we got what we got out of Dion, as he'll be out of the NBA within 2 years.

I don't know. But Love wanted out, wasn't going to resign. Had basically said Cleveland or nothing. Cleveland had ALL the leverage. We have seen that story play out many times before and the trade goes through for "pennies".

I dont know know for sure, but my gut says that trade gets done a few weeks/months into season for picks/Bennett/???. Without Wiggins being a part of it. Seemed like Cleveland panicked when they had the upper hand.

slingshot4ever

Crimson streak;1731230 wrote:Lol is this a joke? With a healthy love and kyrie, I honestly would expect a sweep or 5 games max in the finals. We saw once love went out how we struggled with Chicago until LeBron decided he wanted to take over and dominate. And plus we already have way too many wing scorers on this team. It made sense to deal him for love

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Love brings no defense and eats away at TT minutes. We don't sweep Atlanta with a healthy Love. We dont need him stretching the floor with Imam and JR on the perimiter and he can't rebound, especially not like TT.

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