NBA offseason--trades, free agency, murder stories

• Terry_Tate

  

  ohiobucks1;1472061 wrote:What did his stat line look like?

  
  18 points on 7/13 shooting I believe, 2/4 from 3
• robj55

  

  McLemore 4-23 in his debut, there will be better days lol
• j_crazy

  

  robj55;1472130 wrote:McLemore 4-23 in his debut, there will be better days lol

  
  Remember when I said he peaked before the draft. Remember it.
• Iliketurtles

  

  j_crazy;1472133 wrote:Remember when I said he peaked before the draft. Remember it.

  I remember it.
• lhslep134

  

  j_crazy;1472133 wrote:Remember when I said he peaked before the draft. Remember it.

  Okay, but it will be at least 5 years before you can say you were right lol
• SportsAndLady

  

  j_crazy;1472133 wrote:Remember when I said he peaked before the draft. Remember it.

  
  Yeah we remember it. Pretty damn stupid still.
  
  1 scrimmage doesn't mean he sucks.
• Azubuike24

  

  At what point do you call a spade a spade?
  
  I said Even Turner was a terrible draft pick before he was even picked. It only got worse (you all know the story, I won't bore you) when Philly picked him #2 over other players.
  
  I mean, very rarely is a top 5 pick going to completely bomb out and be out of the league, but there's also a point where you have to realize he's never going to reach that elite level.
  
  I mean O.J. Mayo is a bust, but that's because he's been a household name (especially in Ohio) for a decade and unless he became a consistent All Star, he was going to have that rep. It doesn't help that his personality, mannerisms on the court and his actual game don't leave much to be desired either. That, and that the fact that he had the issues at North College Hill and was part of a probation punishment at USC never put him in the "I really root for that guy" category.
  
  Then again, O.J. Mayo will probably make 100 million dollars in 12-15 years...and for a lot of guys, that's the sole reason they even play pro ball. Not everyone absolutely lives and dies for their sport. To some, it's just what they are best at and where their bread is buttered.
• robj55

  

  Azubuike24;1472515 wrote:At what point do you call a spade a spade?
  
  I said Even Turner was a terrible draft pick before he was even picked. It only got worse (you all know the story, I won't bore you) when Philly picked him #2 over other players.
  
  I mean, very rarely is a top 5 pick going to completely bomb out and be out of the league, but there's also a point where you have to realize he's never going to reach that elite level.
  
  I mean O.J. Mayo is a bust, but that's because he's been a household name (especially in Ohio) for a decade and unless he became a consistent All Star, he was going to have that rep. It doesn't help that his personality, mannerisms on the court and his actual game don't leave much to be desired either. That, and that the fact that he had the issues at North College Hill and was part of a probation punishment at USC never put him in the "I really root for that guy" category.
  
  Then again, O.J. Mayo will probably make 100 million dollars in 12-15 years...and for a lot of guys, that's the sole reason they even play pro ball. Not everyone absolutely lives and dies for their sport. To some, it's just what they are best at and where their bread is buttered.

  Turner had a decent year last year, 13,6 and 4. The offense didn't run through him either it ran through Jrue Holliday. He may never be an elite player but he is going to be a very good player for a long time.
• Fly4Fun

  

  robj55;1472527 wrote:Turner had a decent year last year, 13,6 and 4. The offense didn't run through him either it ran through Jrue Holliday. He may never be an elite player but he is going to be a very good player for a long time.

  Turner is a guy that will stay in the league for a while and may try to join a contender as a decent roll player late in the second half of his career to win a ring. It's apparent that he won't ever be the man for a team at this point. But earning millions over a long career in the NBA isn't really that bad. Not everyone can be an all-star or a champion.
• Azubuike24

  

  Which is why I said what I did about McLemore. I mean, there aren't very many guys taken in the top 5, who barring injuries (Jay Williams, Shaun Livingston, Greg Oden, etc...) that don't even make it.
  
  The question becomes...how do you rate a pick if that guy doesn't ever get past just being "good." It's the same thing that might happen with Michael Gilchrist. He will have to become that defensive lockdown player and a key cog in leading a team who is a contender if his numbers never hit an elite, elite level. He will always rebound and get steals, but I don't ever see him averaging more than 15-18 PPG, and for a SF taken in the top 3, that's not all that successful.
• j_crazy

  

  lhslep134;1472390 wrote:Okay, but it will be at least 5 years before you can say you were right lol

  
  Back on JJ huddle in 2007 I said I thought Howard was a piece of shit and got flamed into oblivion. Even if I get no props for being right, I revel in it. I like macklemore. I just don't think he will pan out (into a superstar).
• j_crazy

  

  SportsAndLady;1472402 wrote:Yeah we remember it. Pretty damn stupid still.
  
  1 scrimmage doesn't mean he sucks.

  
  Sucks and peaked are different.
  
  Thesaurus'd
• robj55

  

  World Peace has signed with the Knicks, Brand to the Hawks
• lhslep134

  

  j_crazy;1472637 wrote:Back on JJ huddle in 2007 I said I thought Howard was a piece of **** and got flamed into oblivion. Even if I get no props for being right

  I'll give you reps now for the prescience.
  
  I was just saying ~5 years because that's the max time I'll give a highly drafted prospect to show me something. I call it the Chauncey Billups effect.
• j_crazy

  

  lhslep134;1472926 wrote:I'll give you reps now for the prescience.
  
  I was just saying ~5 years because that's the max time I'll give a highly drafted prospect to show me something. I call it the Chauncey Billups effect.

  
  Agree. I just don't see macklemore progressing. He played his best ball in January-February. He might be a superstar, I'll eat crow, but I think he's a Jason terry at best player.
• GOONx19

  

  j_crazy;1472935 wrote:Agree. I just don't see macklemore progressing.

  I don't know if I agree. We'll see how his next album turns out after his recent radio success. Too early to tell.
  
  [video=youtube;2zNSgSzhBfM][/video]
• Terry_Tate

  

  GOONx19;1472983 wrote:I don't know if I agree. We'll see how his next album turns out after his recent radio success. Too early to tell.
  
  [video=youtube;2zNSgSzhBfM][/video]

  I can't get into his style at all. His beats aren't that bad but his flow and lyrics are terrible IMO.
• Iliketurtles

  

  Terry_Tate;1472985 wrote:I can't get into his style at all. His beats aren't that bad but his flow and lyrics are terrible IMO.

  I agree my wife loves him I hate it anytime his songs come on... but I guess its not as bad as Taylor Swift.
• Rotinaj

  

  Iliketurtles;1473000 wrote:I agree my wife loves him I hate it anytime his songs come on... but I guess its not as bad as Taylor Swift.

  You take that back!
• j_crazy

  

  GOONx19;1472983 wrote:I don't know if I agree. We'll see how his next album turns out after his recent radio success. Too early to tell.
  
  [video=youtube;2zNSgSzhBfM][/video]

  
  Auto correct. But yes, him too.
• Classyposter58

  

  Midstate01;1471914 wrote:Deshaun thomas looked really good tonight for spurs.

  I still cannot believe he was not a first round draft pick. That guy was probably the best scorer in college basketball last year at the big time level, with that frame you gotta go round 1 on him
• Azubuike24

  

  Classyposter58;1473715 wrote:I still cannot believe he was not a first round draft pick. That guy was probably the best scorer in college basketball last year at the big time level, with that frame you gotta go round 1 on him

  Disagree. You don't draft guys with holes who won't play a game until they are 22. That isn't what the NBA is about. There are exceptions, but not many.
  
  Even if you take an off-the-wall foreign guy or an 18 or 19-year old, your odds of "boom" are much higher with a guy like that than a college Junior.
  
  This is especially true for a team who isn't going to contend anytime soon.
• robj55

  

  Mullens nearing a two year deal with the Clippers, was between them and the Lakers supposedly.
• Ironman92

  

  robj55;1474320 wrote:Mullens nearing a two year deal with the Clippers, was between them and the Lakers supposedly.

  
  Yep...then he'll
  
  /Better wait
• Ironman92

  

  robj55;1474320 wrote:Mullens nearing a two year deal with the Clippers, was between them and the Lakers supposedly.

  
  How are these deals finalized? It's on twitter in multiple areas and it's all but a done deal and supposed to be done late last night or today....but Mullens was in town working out at the high school just a couple hours ago? Do they do a verbal commitment and then sign off on it later or send it via fax or mail?
  
  Just wondering.