2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

• Commander of Awesome

  

  What are you guys draft wants? To me, if we don't come away with a legit Pass Rushing DE with the #6 pick, I'll be pissed. 2nd or 3rd most important position/ability to have and we don't have it. PASS RUSH. Moore or Jordan are my two targets at this point.
• dazedconfused

  

  Commander of Awesome;1360979 wrote:What are you guys draft wants? To me, if we don't come away with a legit Pass Rushing DE with the #6 pick, I'll be pissed. 2nd or 3rd most important position/ability to have and we don't have it. PASS RUSH. Moore or Jordan are my two targets at this point.

  i think i'd prefer werner (if jones and moore are gone) and then milliner if werner is gone as well. i didn't really want t'eo even before the national championship game
  
  edit - i'd be okay with jordan as well
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Yeah I'd take Te'o in the 3rd, but I will never draft a MLB in the first round.
• se-alum

  

  I want Werner.
• Automatik

  

  I think Werner will be gone by 6.
  
  I'd have my sights on Milliner if he's there. I think he's going to be very good at the next level.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  I like Werner as well, esp as an all around DE. But his lack of pure speed and isn't an elite edge pass rusher. Which is why he's not top of my list.
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  Chip Kelly's staying at Oregon. Doug Marrone's gone to Buffalo. What now?
  
  First of all.. DO NOT reccomend Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher. Would you come to Cleveland if you were a Super Bowl winning coach with a cake job working once or twice a week. Sorry Cleveland fans, the answer is no. Other than that: fair game. As long as you don't seriously reccomend Mike Trestman (CFL, Really?)
  
  My personal choice would be Greg Roman, OC at San Fran. He has worked under Harbaugh since their time together at Stanford. Even if its Harbaugh's offense, tell me Roman hasn't absorbed some of his philosophies.. the Belichik tree has been extremely popular lately, how about we pluck some fruit off the Harbaugh tree while the getting is good. Also, Haslam and Banner have said that the want the GM (..sorry player personnel man) and the HC to be "joined at the hip." Guess what? Dave Caldwell (Player Personnel Director for the Atlanta Falcons) and Greg Roman roomed together at John Carroll University (in University Heights-a suburb of Cleveland).How were these two not the front runners from the beginning? Maybe they were.*Conspiracy Theory: The Browns interest in Kelly and Saban was a Marketing ploy (building popularity for the Browns is clearly up there on Haslam's goals list, i.e. Road Tested on the Travel Channel). Trestman only got an interview so the Browns still appear to be actively searching, while in fact they are just waiting for the Falcons and 49ers to be eliminated from the playoffs to get their guys.
  
  It makes sense doesn't it--CLEconomically Speaking? Interviewing big name guys and CFL coaches keeps you in the news, and in the end you still get your top choices.
• Mulva

  

  Assuming we stay with the 4-3 and stay at 6, I like Werner/Moore at DE or Milliner. If we trade back to try to get a 2nd round pick back I like Montgomery or Warmack. Ansah is an intriguing prospect too, but I didn't see BYU play much this year so I don't have a real strong opinion on him. I also like Tyler Wilson and Cordarrelle Patterson a lot, but I don't think those are realistic options.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  I'd love Margus Hunt in the 3rd if he fell.
• mucalum49

  

  CLEconomically Speaking;1361244 wrote:Dave Caldwell (Player Personnel Director for the Atlanta Falcons)

  Except he now works for Jacksonville
  
  http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8826276/dave-caldwell-agrees-become-jacksonville-jaguars-general-manager
• like_that

  

  I am just going to say it again. Why the fuck hasn't Haslam given Zimmer a call yet? Why hasn't any team given him a call? It makes no sense.
• wes_mantooth

  

  like_that;1361279 wrote:I am just going to say it again. Why the fuck hasn't Haslam given Zimmer a call yet? Why hasn't any team given him a call? It makes no sense.

  
  Browns are supposedly after an offensive minded guy....
• Mulva

  

  like_that;1361279 wrote:I am just going to say it again. Why the fuck hasn't Haslam given Zimmer a call yet? Why hasn't any team given him a call? It makes no sense.

  The Browns seem to be leaning pretty heavily toward getting an offensive guy. Kelly, BOB, Marrone, Whisenhunt, Trestman, Arians. The only defensive guys to my knowledge have been Horton (Rooney-rule, probably no real interest) and the rumored Saban interest.
• like_that

  

  wes_mantooth;1361285 wrote:Browns are supposedly after an offensive minded guy....

  Mulva;1361286 wrote:The Browns seem to be leaning pretty heavily toward getting an offensive guy. Kelly, BOB, Marrone, Whisenhunt, Trestman, Arians. The only defensive guys to my knowledge have been Horton (Rooney-rule, probably no real interest) and the rumored Saban interest.

  You don't need an offensive minded coach to have a good offense and vice versa.
• Ironman92

  

  Sonofanump;1360089 wrote:I'd rather work 20-30 hours a week for 20 weeks for $4-5 million than work 100 hours a week for 40-45 weeks for $8-10 million. He has the best job in sports, minimal effort and he is never wrong and the accountability is not much.

  
  Does Gruden make that much now? Lol I've heard Gruden before say he puts about 40 hours a week into this job.
  
  I always heard Gruden was the most insane working hours head coach ever....some weeks putting in 120 hours and like you said, over 100 was beyond routine.
  
  He seems happy as hell doing what he does.
• Ironman92

  

  CLEconomically Speaking;1361244 wrote:Chip Kelly's staying at Oregon. Doug Marrone's gone to Buffalo. What now?
  
  First of all.. DO NOT reccomend Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher. Would you come to Cleveland if you were a Super Bowl winning coach with a cake job working once or twice a week. Sorry Cleveland fans, the answer is no. Other than that: fair game. As long as you don't seriously reccomend Mike Trestman (CFL, Really?)
  
  My personal choice would be Greg Roman, OC at San Fran. He has worked under Harbaugh since their time together at Stanford. Even if its Harbaugh's offense, tell me Roman hasn't absorbed some of his philosophies.. the Belichik tree has been extremely popular lately, how about we pluck some fruit off the Harbaugh tree while the getting is good. Also, Haslam and Banner have said that the want the GM (..sorry player personnel man) and the HC to be "joined at the hip." Guess what? Dave Caldwell (Player Personnel Director for the Atlanta Falcons) and Greg Roman roomed together at John Carroll University (in University Heights-a suburb of Cleveland).How were these two not the front runners from the beginning? Maybe they were.*Conspiracy Theory: The Browns interest in Kelly and Saban was a Marketing ploy (building popularity for the Browns is clearly up there on Haslam's goals list, i.e. Road Tested on the Travel Channel). Trestman only got an interview so the Browns still appear to be actively searching, while in fact they are just waiting for the Falcons and 49ers to be eliminated from the playoffs to get their guys.
  
  It makes sense doesn't it--CLEconomically Speaking? Interviewing big name guys and CFL coaches keeps you in the news, and in the end you still get your top choices.

  
  If this guy is right.....everyone on here should rep him.
• like_that

  

  Gruden is def happy with his job now, but if he really had the itch to coach he could get a job. The ESPN job isn't going anywhere. He can always take that job when he is done coaching.
• Pick6

  

  Rob Ryan is now on the market.
• like_that

  

  Pick6;1361312 wrote:Rob Ryan is now on the market.

  No.
• Pick6

  

  like_that;1361314 wrote:No.

  Was a joke haha.
  
  Seriously though, Im about done following this until a coach is hired. Cleveland media is a joke running with every single rumor. Saw someone mention Air Force's HC today. SMFH. I have confidence in Haslem getting the job done, in the sense of "making a splash". He wants to change culture and win.
• dazedconfused

  

  like_that;1361293 wrote:You don't need an offensive minded coach to have a good offense and vice versa.

  yea, i'd actually prefer the head coach not be involved too heavily with either the offense or the defense. i think zimmer would make a great head coach
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Ironman92;1361299 wrote:If this guy is right.....everyone on here should rep him.

  If his name and pun wasn't so stupid, id think about it.
• Ironman92

  

  Commander of Awesome;1361380 wrote:If his name and pun wasn't so stupid, id think about it.

  
  It makes me lol at it's dumbness....but someone dug and found some interesting ties.
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  Ironman92;1361401 wrote:It makes me lol at it's dumbness....but someone dug and found some interesting ties.

  It's about time someone did their own research instead of rehashing Tony Grossi's sorry excuse for journalism.
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  Commander of Awesome;1361380 wrote:If his name and pun wasn't so stupid, id think about it.

  Sorry, "Commander of Awesome" was taken..