Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;680789 wrote:I keep seeing new mocks with Peterson (LSU) falling to the Browns at #6. Have even seen a few where the Browns passed on him and Peterson was taken at #7. Can't say I'd have an issue with Dixon & Minnifield 2.0 (Haden & Peterson) back there.

  
  I'm a big believer that you don't need great corners to have a good defense, because if the front 7 are great, your corners are going to look great. Look at Pittsburgh, they haven't really had a lockdown corner, but they always seem to get good production out of their secondary.
  
  That's not to say I wouldn't be happy with Peterson, but I feel if we are going to go defense (i'm still saying take a WR first round) go D-line.
• OQB

  

  ^^^
  That is true to an extent, but I'm sure the Steelers are wishing they had some better corners after their showing against the Packers in the Super Bowl.....
• BR1986FB

  If Peterson is the BPA at the Browns pick I wouldn't hesitate to grab him. D-Line & WR is a GLARING need but if Peterson is the best available why not fix the secondary for the next 7-10 years?
• ytownfootball

  

  BR1986FB;680849 wrote:If Peterson is the BPA at the Browns pick I wouldn't hesitate to grab him. D-Line & WR is a GLARING need but if Peterson is the best available why not fix the secondary for the next 7-10 years?

  
  Not sure I agree with that. Just the learning curve alone might prevent me from selecting a corner given the circumstances ie D line. There isn't nearly the turnaround time in getting a Dlineman up to speed. I think we'd benefit more quickly going D line imo.
• OneBuckeye

  

  Sam Sheilds sure didn't have a learning curve this year for Green Bay and he was a WR in college. Haden would have been farther ahead if he got more PT early in the season, he did pretty good once he got more. I think they can make a big impact at secondary right away. I am all for taking the BPA, I hope it is a defensive player and not AJ Green, I do not want.
• ytownfootball

  

  I'm not saying it's not possible, just less likely. I always like to take the BPA but I may be leaning toward the BP d lineman as opposed to BP at corner.
• BR1986FB

  This team just needs a serious injection of talent EVERYWHERE.
• thedynasty1998

  

  SportsAndLady;680836 wrote:I'm a big believer that you don't need great corners to have a good defense, because if the front 7 are great, your corners are going to look great. Look at Pittsburgh, they haven't really had a lockdown corner, but they always seem to get good production out of their secondary.
  
  That's not to say I wouldn't be happy with Peterson, but I feel if we are going to go defense (i'm still saying take a WR first round) go D-line.

  Very good points. In my opinion an average WR will beat a great CB if given time. The Browns desperately needs a pass rusher, so I think that's the most logical choice on the defensive side of the ball. However, the Browns could go in a number of directions and I think could be a solid pick.
• ytownfootball

  

  thedynasty1998;680921 wrote:Very good points. In my opinion an average WR will beat a great CB if given time. The Browns desperately needs a pass rusher, so I think that's the most logical choice on the defensive side of the ball. However, the Browns could go in a number of directions and I think could be a solid pick.

  
  I agree, there will likely not be a disappointment in any direction. Botch Davis isn't in charge...
• se-alum

  

  Not gonna lie, it's pretty intriguing to have a secondary anchored by Haden, Peterson, and Ward. A good secondary can also free up the front 7 to do more blitzing.
  
  What's the word on D'Qwell Jackson?
• OQB

  

  A good secondary can also create a thing called a "coverage sack"...which is just as good as a regular sack.
• BR1986FB

  se-alum;681000 wrote:
  What's the word on D'Qwell Jackson?

  
  Haven't heard much on his recovery. I know he wouldn't be at the top of my list of "priorities" to re-sign.
• OQB

  

  ^Even with the uncertainty of free agency and not having many LB's on the roster?
• BR1986FB

  Dude is a China Doll and he's kinda undersized. Sure, he makes a boatload of tackles but he has the "Andra Davis Syndrome" (tackles 5 yards downfield, never an impact play in the backfield). He's coming off of back-to-back pec injuries. Plus, I think he's kinda pissed off at the organization for not signing him to a fat contract this past offseason.
• OQB

  

  lol fair enough, just wanted to hear your reasoning behind it.....I'm all for moving on while getting younger and more talented.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Watch it on the Andra Davis bashing. He's my favorite player of all time.
• like_that

  

  Kiper has the Browns taking JJ Wats in the first round now.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  I have been a huge fan of drafting AJ Green, but I am leaning towards the defense pick. We can get a WR in the later rounds I feel like.
• like_that

  

  DeyDurkie5;681214 wrote:I have been a huge fan of drafting AJ Green, but I am leaning towards the defense pick. We can get a WR in the later rounds I feel like.

  
  I agree. It seems 2/3 of the teams are going defense in the first round. There will be plenty of offensive talent in the 2nd and 3rd round.
• OQB

  

  It wouldn't surprise me if Green falls out of the top 10 or even 15.
  
  I would take Watt....but not with the sixth pick, I would trade down to maybe 12-15 and grab him there.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;681201 wrote:Kiper has the Browns taking JJ Wats in the first round now.

  
  Was just about to post this. Kiper's "Count Chocula" hair has apparently sucked his brain out.
• OQB

  

  Kiper and McShay have a great job.....watch football all day, talk to NFL GM's, then debate whether who is going to get drafted.
  
  
  Must be nice, Weather men/women and Draft gurus are about the only jobs where you can be completely wrong and still have a job, lol where do I sign up?
• like_that

  

  OQB;681240 wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if Green falls out of the top 10 or even 15.
  
  I would take Watt....but not with the sixth pick, I would trade down to maybe 12-15 and grab him there.

  
  I agree. They should look into this.
• grodt

  

  I'd rather take the BPA at 6. There will be plenty of talent available there. Unless they get blown away by another team I hope we stay at 6.
• OQB

  

  This draft is full of quality D-lineman....I think we are in good hands with the front office we have.