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Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

  • Commander of Awesome
    DeyDurkie5;1031433 wrote:so you are basing griffins potential in the NFL on tebow's throwing motion?

    smh pick
    That wasn't it point, not surprised it went over your head, doesn't have to go very high.
  • Skyhook79
    DeyDurkie5;1031433 wrote:so you are basing griffins potential in the NFL on tebow's throwing motion?

    smh pick
    Makes as much sense as what you are basing Andrew Luck's potential on.
  • BR1986FB
    A lot of time between now and the draft but the more & more I think about it, I can't see Holmgren allowing the Browns to bring in a QB like RG3. He and Shurmur are so rigid in their antiquated WCO system that I just don't see them willing to adapt to his skill set. RG3 is the kind of QB that you adapt your system to and build around. I don't see the current regime being flexible enough to adapt.
  • BR1986FB
    Pashos is no world beater but he's better than any RT the Browns have. He's been ruled out for Sunday. Seneca better have his track shoes on.
  • shook_17
    ^^ of course he is. its going to be a blood bath.


    EDIT: guess they better trade for luck then
  • Sykotyk
    Well, turns out I do get to go to this game after all. I just hope to god we pull a miracle. I hate leaving the stadium after losing to the Steelers.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Sykotyk;1032005 wrote:Well, turns out I do get to go to this game after all. I just hope to god we pull a miracle. I hate leaving the stadium after losing to the Steelers.
    It's a win-win situation really. They win, then great fuck the steelers...if they lose, great our draft pick gets better
  • BR1986FB
    As an FYI, Matt Flynn has been mentioned as a potential FA target of Heckert/Holmgren (not interested, personally). He will be starting in place of Aaron Rodgers tomorrow.
  • ytownfootball
    BR1986FB;1032329 wrote:As an FYI, Matt Flynn has been mentioned as a potential FA target of Heckert/Holmgren (not interested, personally). He will be starting in place of Aaron Rodgers tomorrow.
    OMG the dude was horrendously un-talented in college, do not effin want
  • BR1986FB
    Now another option I could see, if the Browns hire Mike Sherman as their offensive coordinator, is Ryan Tannehill with their second 1st rounder.
  • thedynasty1998
    BR1986FB;1032329 wrote:As an FYI, Matt Flynn has been mentioned as a potential FA target of Heckert/Holmgren (not interested, personally). He will be starting in place of Aaron Rodgers tomorrow.
    If the Browns are set on not drafting a QB, you have to look at everyone. If Flynn is better than McCoy, why not try to sign him to a 3 year deal. Then you can draft a QB in 2013 and maybe even sit him a year behind Flynn.
  • thedynasty1998
    BR1986FB;1032447 wrote:Now another option I could see, if the Browns hire Mike Sherman as their offensive coordinator, is Ryan Tannehill with their second 1st rounder.
    Wouldn't make any sense to me. Why not take Griffin with their 1st pick then? He is much better than Tannehill.
  • like_that
    BR1986FB;1032447 wrote:Now another option I could see, if the Browns hire Mike Sherman as their offensive coordinator, is Ryan Tannehill with their second 1st rounder.
    Highly doubt that happens. Would be the biggest waste of a 1st round I have ever seen
  • Mulva
    I'd be supremely pissed if we drafted Tannehill. He's a project QB and probably won't be ready to start in the NFL for a few years.

    And as I mentioned before, if we sign Matt Flynn I will probably resign as a Browns fan.
  • thedynasty1998
    Mulva;1032479 wrote:I'd be supremely pissed if we drafted Tannehill. He's a project QB and probably won't be ready to start in the NFL for a few years.

    And as I mentioned before, if we sign Matt Flynn I will probably resign as a Browns fan.
    Do you think he would be too expensive? Why be opposed to bringing in someone to compete for a starting job?
  • BR1986FB
    Mulva;1032479 wrote: And as I mentioned before, if we sign Matt Flynn I will probably resign as a Browns fan.
    Kinda the way I feel if I have to watch Charlie Frye Jr (McCoy) under center next year. Don't want Flynn either.

    I just get this feeling that Shurmur/Holmgren won't be flexible enough to utilize RG3's attributes thus passing on him. It would piss me off but I could see it happening in favor of someone like Tannehill who Holmgren could 'groom." Guys (Holmgren's) ego is a big as Texas so it would be a "challenge."
  • BR1986FB
    Oh...and just in case none of you already knew this, Seneca Wallace is a piece of shit. Real "team player" there...

    "Do I feel like things always are fair? No. And that's just the way it is. . . . It
    was Pat[Shurmur's] decision to give Colt an opportunity, and that's what it was."

    A nine-year pro, Wallace reiterated what he told The Plain Dealer in June -- that
    he wasn't going to share all his knowledge of the West Coast offense with McCoy
    because he wanted to beat him for the job.

    Asked during Thursday's interview how much mentoring he's done with McCoy this season,
    Wallace said: "Not much. Not much. That was Jake [Delhomme's] deal. He did a lot of some stuff with him
    last year. But that's not my thing. It's just one thing I don't do. I came in
    with the mind-set I wanted to compete, whatever case that was."

    Wallace said he'd answer any questions McCoy might have about the West Coast offense,
    but he wouldn't offer unsolicited help.
  • iclfan2
    What a piece of garbage. That pisses me off. Same moron who ran the ball with no timeouts and 6 second left. smh
  • BR1986FB
    Oh..and BTW, regarding the Browns "shitty offensive line".....Browns offensive line is middle of the pack (ranked 15th) in pass blocking while the Steelers are 21st and the Packers 23rd. GB's & Pitt's (much better teams) QB's also sacked more. Fifteenth isn't great but a far cry better than what many are proclaiming (pass protection stats are in blue to the right)...

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

    McCoy had time to throw...
  • like_that
    BR1986FB;1032531 wrote:Oh..and BTW, regarding the Browns "shitty offensive line".....Browns offensive line is middle of the pack (ranked 15th) in pass blocking while the Steelers are 21st and the Packers 23rd. GB's & Pitt's (much better teams) QB's also sacked more. Fifteenth isn't great but a far cry better than what many are proclaiming (pass protection stats are in blue to the right)...

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

    McCoy had time to throw...
    They did seem to get better toward the end of this season.
  • Mulva
    thedynasty1998;1032491 wrote:Do you think he would be too expensive? Why be opposed to bringing in someone to compete for a starting job?
    Because 2 backups competing for the starting QB spot isn't my idea of good times.
  • BR1986FB
    like_that;1032534 wrote:They did seem to get better toward the end of this season.
    The line is coming together. If Steinbach comes back I think they can move Pinky to RG and draft a RT and they'll be fine. Actually having one of the better lines in the league.
  • BR1986FB
    Mulva;1032538 wrote:Because 2 backups competing for the starting QB spot isn't my idea of good times.
    If they are going to start over I'd prefer it be with one of the top 2 prospects (Luck or RG3). I don't get the warm fuzzies about Flynn and I don't want a stopgap retread (Orton, Campbell, etc like they tried with Delhomme).
  • dazedconfused
    BR1986FB;1032500 wrote:Oh...and just in case none of you already knew this, Seneca Wallace is a piece of ****. Real "team player" there...

    "Do I feel like things always are fair? No. And that's just the way it is. . . . It
    was Pat[Shurmur's] decision to give Colt an opportunity, and that's what it was."

    A nine-year pro, Wallace reiterated what he told The Plain Dealer in June -- that
    he wasn't going to share all his knowledge of the West Coast offense with McCoy
    because he wanted to beat him for the job.

    Asked during Thursday's interview how much mentoring he's done with McCoy this season,
    Wallace said: "Not much. Not much. That was Jake [Delhomme's] deal. He did a lot of some stuff with him
    last year. But that's not my thing. It's just one thing I don't do. I came in
    with the mind-set I wanted to compete, whatever case that was."

    Wallace said he'd answer any questions McCoy might have about the West Coast offense,
    but he wouldn't offer unsolicited help.
    he's the best
  • royal_k
    So, Wallace is a dbag. That's nice to know. How about a couple of missed blocks from his blind side sunday.