Cleveland Cavaliers (current) off-season rumors

• ytownfootball

  

  like_that;413145 wrote:Who is Pluto?

  
  writer for the Cleveland Plain Dealer
• Pick6

  

  I dont get why he doesnt want to be in cleveland for the winters...HELLO HE PLAYS IN TORONTO NOW
• hangonsloopy

  

  I feel like I'm getting all excited only to be let down again.....(A'mare anyone?)
• thedynasty1998

  

  Pick6;413263 wrote:I dont get why he doesnt want to be in cleveland for the winters...HELLO HE PLAYS IN TORONTO NOW

  Ever been to Toronto? Toronto is a really cool place. However, all they care about is hockey and who wants to go through customs every week?
  
  I don't think anyone would argue that Cleveland is a better city than Toronto.
• dazedconfused

  

  i don't think there is a place in the world where i wouldn't go for an extra 30 million
• Laley23

  

  thedynasty1998;413274 wrote:Ever been to Toronto? Toronto is a really cool place. However, all they care about is hockey and who wants to go through customs every week?
  
  I don't think anyone would argue that Cleveland is a better city than Toronto.

  
  Yeah, his reasons arent so much the cold (hes lying if he says so)...because he is trying for Chicago. I have been to Chicago way to often in the winter and that place blows weather wise in the winter months.
• hangonsloopy

  

  dazedconfused;413283 wrote:i don't think there is a place in the world where i wouldn't go for an extra 30 million

  
  No doubt. Especially if you get to play with the 2 time MVP in the process.
• IggyPride00

  

  They (Bosh and Toronto) are playing a big game of chicken right now to see who will blink first. Bosh will not walk away from the $30 million I don't think, but if he really doesn't want to come to Cleveland is Toronto ready to get nothing for him if he goes to Miami (who they supposedly don't want to deal with).
  
  If he does wind up in Cleveland, I wonder if he will negotiate the opt-out after 3 years into his deal as we know Lebron will. That would be a circus to say the least having your 2 stars be able to walk away if you aren't winning championships.
  
  The opt-out is just an insurance policy for Bron, which is why I think he will demand it regardless of who else they bring in as if things are good its a non-issue, and if they aren't winning then he probably should move on. Bosh seems to have a bit of an ego as well, and I can't see him agreeing to 6 years with no opt-out knowing Lebron could hypothetically leave him after 3 years if the partnership is not working.
  
  Gilbert would give up a first born to get both of their signatures right now, but I hate the instability the opt-outs bring as we saw how it created a side show with Lebron. With Bosh and Lebron, it will be even that much worse next time around if they don't win a ring in short order.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Cleveland is a better city than Toronto.....or Chicago.
  
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• mucalum49

  

  IggyPride00;413315 wrote:They (Bosh and Toronto) are playing a big game of chicken right now to see who will blink first. Bosh will not walk away from the $30 million I don't think, but if he really doesn't want to come to Cleveland is Toronto ready to get nothing for him if he goes to Miami (who they supposedly don't want to deal with).
  
  If he does wind up in Cleveland, I wonder if he will negotiate the opt-out after 3 years into his deal as we know Lebron will. That would be a circus to say the least having your 2 stars be able to walk away if you aren't winning championships.
  
  The opt-out is just an insurance policy for Bron, which is why I think he will demand it regardless of who else they bring in as if things are good its a non-issue, and if they aren't winning then he probably should move on. Bosh seems to have a bit of an ego as well, and I can't see him agreeing to 6 years with no opt-out knowing Lebron could hypothetically leave him after 3 years if the partnership is not working.
  
  Gilbert would give up a first born to get both of their signatures right now, but I hate the instability the opt-outs bring as we saw how it created a side show with Lebron. With Bosh and Lebron, it will be even that much worse next time around if they don't win a ring in short order.

  
  I agree with this and most of what you have said. However, the Cavs with Lebron would be picking pretty low in the draft so the time to develop young guys that you mentioned previously might not happen anyways. I think they would either be buried in the depth chart or be prospects like Kid Congo. I agree about the opt out clause but I think holding the franchise hostage and having these continuous blow ups will be the way of the Cavs. We may get lucky if we have a pick in the draft and find a young guy to contribute as I think Green will, but an influx of young impact players won't happen if we are always picking #20+ in the draft. Otherwise most of the roster will be developed through these trades and expiring contracts IMO
• KR1245

  

  Bron to announce his decision on Thursday night at 9pm on ESPN?
• Footwedge

  IggyPride00;413315 wrote:They (Bosh and Toronto) are playing a big game of chicken right now to see who will blink first. Bosh will not walk away from the $30 million I don't think, but if he really doesn't want to come to Cleveland is Toronto ready to get nothing for him if he goes to Miami (who they supposedly don't want to deal with).
  
  If he does wind up in Cleveland, I wonder if he will negotiate the opt-out after 3 years into his deal as we know Lebron will. That would be a circus to say the least having your 2 stars be able to walk away if you aren't winning championships.
  
  The opt-out is just an insurance policy for Bron, which is why I think he will demand it regardless of who else they bring in as if things are good its a non-issue, and if they aren't winning then he probably should move on. Bosh seems to have a bit of an ego as well, and I can't see him agreeing to 6 years with no opt-out knowing Lebron could hypothetically leave him after 3 years if the partnership is not working.
  
  Gilbert would give up a first born to get both of their signatures right now, but I hate the instability the opt-outs bring as we saw how it created a side show with Lebron. With Bosh and Lebron, it will be even that much worse next time around if they don't win a ring in short order.

  Good Lord. Win one title and be done with it. Who gives a shit if they both walk after 3 years. The Cleveland jokes will finally be over.
• mucalum49

  

  KR1245;413368 wrote:Bron to announce his decision on Thursday night at 9pm on ESPN?

  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5359255
• mucalum49

  

  RT @Chris_Broussard: Bosh has not softened stance on Cleveland at all. Looks like he won't be a Cav.
  
  Not saying he is right or wrong but I wonder if this is directly from Bosh since he didn't include the infamous "Sources say" before it.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  Bosh is a smart man if this holds to be true.
• like_that

  

  Come on LeBron. Really? A fucking hour long show to announce your decision? That's ridiculous, I am sorry.
• KR1245

  

  I agree. I'm sure something will leak before his annoucement...........at least I hope so
• mucalum49

  

  like_that;413387 wrote:Come on LeBron. Really? A fucking hour long show to announce your decision? That's ridiculous, I am sorry.

  
  Wish SQ was around to say he isn't looking for any attention in this whole process. I didn't really think he was until this. His reps contacted ESPN to do this, not the other way around
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  The drama queen really has some hidden issues.
• KR1245

  

  I'll be curious to see where he decides to do it.
• grodt

  

  Just to play devil's advocate but he is selling all the ad time and donating it to the Boys and Girls Club. So he's using everyone's interest to help the kids. Or you could just think he's a selfish narcissist, you're call
• like_that

  

  grodt;413420 wrote:Just to play devil's advocate but he is selling all the ad time and donating it to the Boys and Girls Club. So he's using everyone's interest to help the kids. Or you could just think he's a selfish narcissist, you're call

  
  That is great of him to do that, and I guess we should keep in mind that Thursday is the first day he could actually sign somewhere, but he is torturing us! He can donate some of that $125 million he is going to sign for.
• KR1245

  

  haha. Do we need 3 threads about this?
• gibby08

  

  Did Bosh get traded to Miami??
• gibby08

  

  Knicks gaining major ground in LeBron Sweepstakes. Bosh snub hurts Cavs, though they're still in hunt
  
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