Cleveland Cavaliers (current) off-season rumors

• thedynasty1998

  

  Windhorst has been clueless since Ferry and Brown got ousted, so that means nothing to me. He has an opinion, just like I do. I really don't know if he's getting any insider info.
• BR1986FB

  I've been hearing all along that Gilbert likely WOULDN'T sign & trade LBJ.
  
  If the Bosh to Miami S&T is true, Windy was WAY off on Bosh waiting for Lebron (if Bosh helped initiate that trade).
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;406352 wrote:Windhorst had a chat this afternoon. Hres the recap posted by somebody from RCF
  
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  Cavs are handcuffed. Easy to have cap space.

  
  What does that mean? He's all over the map with his comments.
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;406366 wrote:Windhorst has been clueless since Ferry and Brown got ousted, so that means nothing to me. He has an opinion, just like I do. I really don't know if he's getting any insider info.

  
  With all due respect. I think I would take Windys opinion/comments over yours. I think he might be a little bit more plugged in that any of us.
• KR1245

  

  Little off topic here but anybody just see the headlines at the bottom of the screen on ESPN
  
  "Bosh says he doubts that he will play with Lebron and Wade in Miami"
  
  "Nuggets prepared to trade Carmelo Anthony"................I didnt even think this was an option
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;406373 wrote:With all due respect. I think I would take Windys opinion/comments over yours. I think he might be a little bit more plugged in that any of us.

  
  I understand that, but you could say the same thing about Jalen Rose, Stephen A. Smith, Michael Wilbon, Jim Brown, etc...
  
  They all have "insider information" yet are all saying different things. So although their opinions might be held in higher regards than anyone on here, they are still opinions.
  
  I don't think anyone can disagree that Windhorst hasn't been right about too much since Ferry and Brown left office.
• BR1986FB

  thedynasty1998;406385 wrote:I understand that, but you could say the same thing about Jalen Rose, Stephen A. Smith, Michael Wilbon, Jim Brown, etc...
  
  They all have "insider information" yet are all saying different things. So although their opinions might be held in higher regards than anyone on here, they are still opinions.
  
  I don't think anyone can disagree that Windhorst hasn't been right about too much since Ferry and Brown left office.

  
  The thing about Windhorst is that he is SPECIFICALLY assigned to the Cavs where the others you mentioned aren't. That's ALL he does...follow the Cavs where those other guys are dealing with Wade one moment, Kobe the next, etc.
  
  I will agree that Windhorst has been off his game as of late.
• KR1245

  

  Latest from a Heat beat reporter: One mans opinion but it doesnt sound like the Raptors have much interest in Beasley
  
  MIAMI — A long-time NBA agent representing several players on the upcoming free-agent market told the Sun Sentinel on Wednesday that he expects the Miami Heat to land Toronto Raptors power forward Chris Bosh during the impending NBA free agency period.
  
  Aware that Bosh is seeking the type of maximum contract that only would be available through a sign-and-trade agreement, the agent said Toronto could be in a position where it recognizes it has to take pennies on the dollar in such a transaction.
  
  By first re-signing with the Raptors and then being dealt to the Heat, Bosh would be eligible for a six-year, $125 million contract. By signing outright with the Heat, Bosh would be limited to a five-year, $96 million package.
  
  An executive of another team with considerable cap space said Wednesday he was unaware of any pending agreement involving Bosh.
  
  The player agent offered his thoughts on Bosh hours before ESPN personality Dan LeBatard, the 790 The Ticket host and Miami Herald columnist, offered on his Twitter account, "I hear bosh-miami is done ..bosh-wade shared agent avoids tampering...its why beasley, chalmers, anthony still here...raptors get them."
  
  The Heat's assets in any trade would be limited to forward Michael Beasley, a player who in the past has held limited appeal to the Raptors, and point guard Mario Chalmers. The Heat also holds the right-of-first-refusal with center Joel Anthony, but Anthony would have to give his consent to be involved in any such deal. Anthony is a Canadian citizen and a member of the Canadian national team that will compete later this summer in the World Championships in Turkey.
  
  The Heat also holds a future lottery-protected draft choice it own from the Raptors, a pick gained in the 2009 trade of Shawn Marion for Jermaine O'Neal.
  
  Chalmers' agent, Sam Goldfeder, said Wednesday, "I have not heard anything about that from either side. I have not heard anything."
• IggyPride00

  

  Windhorst has been clueless since Ferry and Brown got ousted

  Windy was so good for a while there it is looking like those had to be his sources because he really hasn't had anything that has broken any news since they were relieved of their command. Seems kind of logical to put 2 and 2 together.
• KR1245

  

  Windy:
  Raptors like Hickson a lot, Cavs offer salary relief in West, Like Varejao; Colangelo has wanted Varejao for years
  
  Miami beat reporter:
  The Heat's assets in any trade would be limited to forward Michael Beasley, a player who in the past has held limited appeal to the Raptors, and point guard Mario Chalmers.
  
  I think Miami has the lead in the Bosh sweepstakes but it appears thats because he wants to play there. I still think the Raptors would rather deal with the Cavs. Just my opinion
• thedynasty1998

  

  I asked it before and didn't really understand the reasoning, but why is West valuable in a trade to Toronto? I understand that he can be bought out, but why even bring him in then?
• jpake1

  

  I think the Raptors would take Beasley. He's had off the court issues, but he is very well respected in the lockerroom for his work ethic. He really does get a bad rep. He's not perfect, he'll be the first to say so, but he's becoming a good kid. Why wouldn't a team take a 21yr old 16/6 kid with great potential? They would only have to keep him for a year. I think it's all just smoke reguarding Beasley.
• jpake1

  

  KR1245;406410 wrote:Windy:
  Raptors like Hickson a lot, Cavs offer salary relief in West, Like Varejao; Colangelo has wanted Varejao for years
  
  Miami beat reporter:
  The Heat's assets in any trade would be limited to forward Michael Beasley, a player who in the past has held limited appeal to the Raptors, and point guard Mario Chalmers.
  
  I think Miami has the lead in the Bosh sweepstakes but it appears thats because he wants to play there. I still think the Raptors would rather deal with the Cavs. Just my opinion

  
  I agree with that. The Cavs has some good assets that the Raptors like, too bad for them that Bosh will make the decision. I think it's been Miami all the way with Bosh and he's just counting down the hours.
• mucalum49

  

  KR1245;406382 wrote:Little off topic here but anybody just see the headlines at the bottom of the screen on ESPN
  
  "Bosh says he doubts that he will play with Lebron and Wade in Miami"
  
  "Nuggets prepared to trade Carmelo Anthony"................I didnt even think this was an option

  
  Broussard has said that the Nuggets don't want to be in the situation that Cleveland is in this year. Went on to say that the Nuggets roster probably won't thrill Carmelo to want to stick around unless they get some more help for him. If a team can sign two of the max guys this year and have cap space for '11 they figure he will go wherever that is.
• mucalum49

  

  IggyPride00;406400 wrote:Windy was so good for a while there it is looking like those had to be his sources because he really hasn't had anything that has broken any news since they were relieved of their command. Seems kind of logical to put 2 and 2 together.

  I think I said the same thing in the Brian Shaw thread haha
• IggyPride00

  

  Miami's big trump card that no Cavs offer can compete with is a massive $10-12 million dollar trade exemption (assuming all they take back is Beasley because they are under the cap. That gives them more flexibility than any other move they could make to possibly improve the franchise going forward.
  
  From everything I have seen in the national media, the only person mentioning a Bosh Cleveland sign and trade seems to be Windy. Am I wrong on that? Yahoo mentioned like 3-4 teams with no sign of the Cavs, but Windy keeps talking about their lusting after Varajeo as a center-piece. It just doesn't add up why he is the only one talking about it.
• wes_mantooth

  

  I think the Raptors are going to sneak in and sign and trade for Lebron and Dwade. The Raptors will be the DYNASTY!!!
• KR1245

  

  jpake1;406421 wrote:I agree with that. The Cavs has some good assets that the Raptors like, too bad for them that Bosh will make the decision. I think it's been Miami all the way with Bosh and he's just counting down the hours.

  
  I agree with that. If it was up to the Raptors they would be dealing with the Cavs. Its Bosh decision, it sounds like the Raptors dont have much interest in Beasley but you would think they would still bring him in since they are losing Bosh.
• hoops23

  

  Raptors have declined any s&t with Chicago because they want no part of Deng.
  
  Windy also saying the Cavs are in trade talks with teams today, but no reports of with who..
  
  There was a rumor earlier today that the Cavs/Nets/Bucks were involved in a 3-way trade, those rumors were false.
• devil1197

  Windy also really only reports news that has some validity behind it like the Shaw ordeal going on right now.
  
  Cleveland has some options to work with concerning S/T, most of them are PF's with Bosh, Amar'e, and Boozer. All of these guys want max contracts and Cleveland has the assests to get them. But the biggest assest is getting LeBron to sign and bring the other guys along.
• devil1197

  thedynasty on West: Because that saves Toronto an instant 5.5 million off their books if they release him. They get basically an MLE instantly from West.
• hoops23

  

  devil1197;406873 wrote:thedynasty on West: Because that saves Toronto an instant 5.5 million off their books if they release him. They get basically an MLE instantly from West.

  
  Exactly.
  
  Also, Brian Windhorst was on with Reghi earlier and said "There could be some breaking news tonight, but I'm not going to make any promises..."
  
  Also said he's not going to get much sleep over the next few days lol.
• devil1197

  Yeah, I heard him say that something big is going to happen which is probably the announcement of Shaw as the head coach.
  
  Good start IMO if this can happen.
• devil1197

  Windy giving out some crazy information tonight.
  
  -Windy feels the cavs will definitely get a starter in the FA
  
  -Cavs will do at least 1 S&T
  
  -thinks its likely shaq will be in a S&T...thinks there has already been talks
• just_a_swimmer

  

  oh hum,
  Does anyone have anything new to say?
  OMG this will soon be over. Thank goodness