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Orlando Shooting

  • Wolves of Babylon
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-authorities-say-multiple-people-have-been-shot-at-orlando-nightclub.html

    At least 20 dead. Possible Terrorism. Apparently at a Gay club.

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  • salto
    Wonder if somehow related to the Christina Grimmie shooting.
  • Spock
    shooting up the gheys???? doesnt seem like usual terrorist target.
  • Wolves of Babylon
    Omar Mateen identified as shooter. Possible links to being influenced by Radical Islam. American Citizen born in New York.

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  • Spock
    50 dead, 53 injured
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Worst mass shooting in US history.

    I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
    This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
  • isadore
    Muslim,
    CNN said family from Afghanistan.
  • SportsAndLady
    ptown_trojans_1;1798849 wrote:Worst mass shooting in US history.

    I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
    This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
    How-with an assault rifle
    Why- radical Islam

    Didn't take any time at all
  • Spock
    news media will push gun control narrative.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    SportsAndLady;1798851 wrote:How-with an assault rifle
    Why- radical Islam

    Didn't take any time at all
    Are you sure it was purely radical Islam, or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam? Did he know someone at the club? What set him off? Why did he chose this place?
    If it was radical Islam, why did he talk to the SWAT team, or why did it take so long for the situation to end?

    Jumping to conclusions is short sited and may miss the entire rational. Do not assume anything.
  • like_that
    I was hoping this wouldn't turn into a political discussion for at least 48 hours, because I agree let's see the facts. However, I was wondering what would happen first. The radical Islamists apologists come out, or the gun control advocates come out? Once we officially move on from the shock of this tragic event, I can already tell where ptown is leaning and its not even surprising.
  • GoPens
    For what it's worth, the father of the shooter said it wasn't his religion, but he hated gays. We'll see but I agree, let time sort it out.
  • Belly35
    Spock;1798852 wrote:news media will push gun control narrative.
    no guns for Muslims
  • iclfan2
    ptown_trojans_1;1798853 wrote:Are you sure it was purely radical Islam, or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam?
    Aren't these one in the same? I'm fairly certain they kill gays over in the desert.

    Not making a rush to judgment on this guy, could be a crazy Christian or whatever else as well.

    Crazy though. Will be interesting to learn more details in the day to come. Terrible tragedy for all involved and families affected.


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  • gut
    ptown_trojans_1;1798853 wrote:...or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam?
    that would be a distinction without a difference
  • gut
    like_that;1798854 wrote:I was hoping this wouldn't turn into a political discussion for at least 48 hours,
    well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
  • SportsAndLady
    gut;1798859 wrote:well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
    Is Obama retarded?

    Does he actually think this wouldn't have happened if guns were illegal?

    Cocaine is illegal, but if I wanted to get some, it would take me about 15 min.

    Edit: also think it's funny Obama never mentions Isis, radical islam, etc. but plenty of gay, gun control, etc.

    Get him the hell out of there
  • like_that
    gut;1798859 wrote:well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
    SportsAndLady;1798860 wrote:Is Obama retarded?

    Does he actually think this wouldn't have happened if guns were illegal?

    Cocaine is illegal, but if I wanted to get some, it would take me about 15 min.

    Edit: also think it's funny Obama never mentions Isis, radical islam, etc. but plenty of gay, gun control, etc.

    Get him the hell out of there
    Par for the course.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    Let's guess the response...

    "This is not Islam".

    Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
  • SportsAndLady
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1798864 wrote:Let's guess the response...

    "This is not Islam".

    Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
    Killer was yelling Allah Akbhar and on a 911 call pledged his allegiance to ISIS. But let's not let facts get in the way of political correctness!
  • like_that
    SportsAndLady;1798866 wrote:Killer was yelling Allah Akbhar and on a 911 call pledged his allegiance to ISIS. But let's not let facts get in the way of political correctness!
    Did he really? Link?
  • Sonofanump
    GoPens;1798855 wrote:For what it's worth, the father of the shooter said it wasn't his religion, but he hated gays. We'll see but I agree, let time sort it out.
    I don't recall an anti-gay suicide/byproxy killing before. Seems odd that it would not be religious.
  • iclfan2
    A lot more coming out. This guy was known by the FBI as an ISIS sympathizer. His father also had ties to supporting the afghani taliban.


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  • SportsAndLady
    like_that;1798868 wrote:Did he really? Link?
    It was reported on Fox News earlier today, and I'm seeing a lot of people tweeting about it. Guess it's not been 100% confirmed though.