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Duck Dynasty, will Phil's interview doom the show?

  • Belly35
    In celebration of the A&E return of Phil to the filming of DD, our Church ammo loader group has ordered 10 Cracker Barrel pies for our Duck Dynasty youth group marathon party. ..... To earn money for their Chick-Phil-A Day event
    I've been ask to do the sermon this Sunday .... Which one do I go with? "no room in the Bible for glaad" or "Jesse who has no cred..... never picked cotton". Boy this has been fun :) Happy happy
  • Con_Alma
    pmoney25;1557820 wrote:If there are no levels of sin, why do the commandments exist? If Murder is equal to masturbation why isn't there a thou shall not masturbate commandment?
    As a structure of law to attempt to live by.

    All sin is not covered in the Commandments.
  • isadore
    OSH;1557921 wrote:He stated the black people he worked with did not act "unhappy." He didn't say anything about the lack of segregation. He never even said anything about it. His comments were about handouts...

    And...your continued spewing revolves around a semi-interview from GQ -- and because someone else uncovered a sermon, that now. You have NO idea how and what was said during the whole GQ hangout day the author had. You have no idea what he picked and decided to publish. You are basing all of your ASSumptions off of 2-3 quotes from GQ. You ever thought about the whole day had more said than 4 quotes? You ever thought there may be more to the story and what his comments revolve around? Probably not. That doesn't require copy/paste.
    "I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once." said Phil Robertson
    Gosh their was no “lack of segregation” in Caddo Parish, Louisiana during the time that Phil Robertson was there. It was an area of hard core Jim Crow, Klan activity and a growing black resistance. And what does he come up, happy blacks not singing the blues. That is right he said nothing about segregation. He went to segregated schools, he used whites only facilities, he had opportunities offered to him that were not available to blacks like an athletic scholarship to Louisiana Tech. But he only sees happy blacks.
    You know what supporters of slavery used to claim that blacks were happy under that system, then they carried that same claim about Jim Crow. The earlier apologists only saw what they wanted to see to defend atrocious systems, Phil comes out as another of these acolytes of evil, lying to protect evil institutions.
    Has he complained about being misquoted or being quoted out of context in his GQ interview or in his sermon. He is a homophobe and a racist.
  • isadore
    Con_Alma;1557991 wrote:As a structure of law to attempt to live by.

    All sin is not covered in the Commandments.
    the Commandments only cover the most important of the sins.
  • pmoney25
    Con_Alma;1557991 wrote:As a structure of law to attempt to live by.

    All sin is not covered in the Commandments.
    Nice try.

    Jesus mentions on several occasions that certain sins/laws matter more than others.

    Not to mention there is one sin that is unforgivable. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
  • fish82
    fish82;1555728 wrote:A&E is gonna fold like a cheap tent in a couple weeks.
    Called it.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/a-e-welcomes-phil-robertson-667647
  • pmoney25
    Never really cared about the outcome. The fun part of the debate was the outrageous hypocrisy from both sides and the ignorance of what free speech actually means.
  • jmog
    pmoney25;1557961 wrote:I always find it strange that people don't understand that when they group people together by race or sexual preference they actually perpetuate racism or homophobia. The collectivism philosophy that always wants to group people together is the main cause for these overreactions.
    So if one makes a statement that is a true statement (statistically) while grouping a certain group together they are perpetuating racism?

    For instance, if someone says "man, the blacks really supported Obama in the last election", it would be a true statement would it not?
  • se-alum
    Sounds like the "boycott" may have actually worked. The writing was on the wall with the steep drop in ratings.
  • OSH
    isadore;1557995 wrote:"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once." said Phil Robertson
    Gosh their was no “lack of segregation” in Caddo Parish, Louisiana during the time that Phil Robertson was there. It was an area of hard core Jim Crow, Klan activity and a growing black resistance. And what does he come up, happy blacks not singing the blues. That is right he said nothing about segregation. He went to segregated schools, he used whites only facilities, he had opportunities offered to him that were not available to blacks like an athletic scholarship to Louisiana Tech. But he only sees happy blacks.
    You know what supporters of slavery used to claim that blacks were happy under that system, then they carried that same claim about Jim Crow. The earlier apologists only saw what they wanted to see to defend atrocious systems, Phil comes out as another of these acolytes of evil, lying to protect evil institutions.
    Has he complained about being misquoted or being quoted out of context in his GQ interview or in his sermon. He is a homophobe and a racist.
    He must not've seen any Klan activity.
  • pmoney25
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    jmog;1558033 wrote:So if one makes a statement that is a true statement (statistically) while grouping a certain group together they are perpetuating racism?

    For instance, if someone says "man, the blacks really supported Obama in the last election", it would be a true statement would it not?
    Why can't the statement be the majority of people supported Obama? Still factually true yet leaves race out of it. Using group identity versus individuals making their own decision lends itself to racism. Individual thinking/knowledge and liberty are the biggest opponents of racism. Your statement is correct but unnecessary.

    The Government has done a fantastic job in putting people in groups(voting blocks) and most people are not really informed enough to think like an individual so they fall right into the collectivist trap. So now groups lobby the government for special rights/deals and whichever party bends over the lobbying groups convince the average person to vote for that party because that party has the group's best interest at heart.
  • pmoney25
    Also I am not saying your statement is racist or that you are for saying it. Just that line of thinking opens the door for racism to exist.
  • O-Trap
    jmog;1558033 wrote:So if one makes a statement that is a true statement (statistically) while grouping a certain group together they are perpetuating racism?

    For instance, if someone says "man, the blacks really supported Obama in the last election", it would be a true statement would it not?
    Technically, it wouldn't be fully accurate. "The blacks" didn't unless 100% of them did. "Most of the blacks really supported Obama in the last election," would be accurate, because the statistical data validates its truth.

    When one uses a blanket descriptor, it becomes less accurate. "White people live in Europe and North America," is not true, at least entirely.

    I know SEVERAL people whose skin is as white as mine who, with their families are, and have been, living in Africa and South America (and probably a couple in Asia, as well). The fact is, white people can be found on every continent. So "white people" actually live on all continents. Might it be true that MOST white people live in Europe and North America? Perhaps (I don't have the census stats, and I'm lazy this evening). But when you don't offer the potential for a sliding scale (some, many, most, etc.), the statement becomes, or at least is communicated to be, a blanket statement.

    "Christians claim 'faith' as the reason they believe what they do."

    "People with light blond hair have blue or green eyes."

    "Men don't know how hard it is to be a woman in the world today."

    "Straight people don't get why it's hard to be gay in America."

    These claims might be true of a notable percentage of the segment mentioned (again, I have no numbers ... sue me). However, if it's false of even one (and I suggest it is for every example listed), it's not fully accurate.
  • Con_Alma
    pmoney25;1557998 wrote:Nice try.

    Jesus mentions on several occasions that certain sins/laws matter more than others.

    Not to mention there is one sin that is unforgivable. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
    Are saying this was a nice try answering yoru question why the commandments exist?

    Are you saying the Commandments are not a structure a law for us to attempt to live by?


    Sorry Pmoney...you know not what you speak.

    The proof is in the result of sinning.

    All sin separates us from God, none more than the other. That's what sin is.

    We are to take all of God's word into account, in context. Therefore, the Bible teaches us that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. All other sins are forgivable. However, this does not mean that all sins will be forgiven. It means that all these other sins can be forgiven. We are forgiven only when we trust in Christ and Him alone for the forgiveness of our sins. Those who have committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will never seek Christ because the Holy Spirit will not work on them.

    Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit isn't any worse that any other sin in God's eyes. It's does , however, keep it from being present in one's heart....necessary for forgiveness. This doesn't tear us away from God any more than other sins. Not being with God is not being with God.
  • isadore
    OSH;1558039 wrote:He must not've seen any Klan activity.
    must not have seen those "whites only signs" must not have noticed the blacks he worked with did not go to the same school he did, but to a much crappier one, must not have noticed none got scholarships to Louisiana Tech like he did. Must not have noticed the local black protest against segregation. "None are so blind as those who will not see."
  • isadore
    Heretic;1557871 wrote:Maybe he also has Aspergers? It'd make sense, since he posts in a way that illustrates a painful lacking of ability to talk to someone like a normal human being.
    there are normal people at this site, really. How about a guy who posted 13, 557 times in the last 4 years instead of doing real interaction with family and friends. Now those are symptoms a limited, but intense range of interest and limits on your social relations with those supposedly closest to you.
    http://www.soundpsych.com/asp2.html
  • LJ
    isadore;1558069 wrote:there are normal people at this site, really. How about a guy who posted 13, 557 times in the last 4 years instead of doing real interaction with family and friends. Now those are symptoms a limited, but intense range of interest and limits on your social relations with those supposedly closest to you.
    http://www.soundpsych.com/asp2.html
    Maybe you should use that site to diagnose yourself.
  • isadore
    LJ;1558071 wrote:Maybe you should use that site to diagnose yourself.
    15,853 post in a little over 4 years
    mine is 4464, basically in a little over 2 years
    interesting
  • LJ
    isadore;1558072 wrote:15,853 post in a little over 4 years
    mine is 4464, basically in a little over 2 years
    interesting
    Your point? Oh I know, you have diagnosed us all as being introverts based on # of posts on a forum. You're a nutjob.
  • OSH
    isadore;1558072 wrote:15,853 post in a little over 4 years
    mine is 4464, basically in a little over 2 years
    interesting
    You've posted more than me. So, what a loser you are.
  • isadore
    LJ;1558074 wrote:Your point? Oh I know, you have diagnosed us all as being introverts based on # of posts on a forum. You're a nutjob.
    15,853 posts
    OSH wrote:You've posted more than me. So, what a loser you are.
    3168 post
  • OSH
    isadore;1558077 wrote:15,853 posts
    3168 post
    4465 posts

    See...I can do that too.
  • LJ
    isadore;1558077 wrote:15,853 posts
    3168 post
    Gonna recite the alphabet next?
  • isadore
    LJ;1558079 wrote:Gonna recite the alphabet next?
    if it would help you to see yourself, I would be glad to.
  • isadore
    OSH;1558078 wrote:4465 posts

    See...I can do that too.
    Gosh based on the post symptom I got a cold but Ljs got pneumonia, he really needs your help.