What are your unpopular opinions?

• gut

  lhslep134;1484196 wrote:I edited my post because they can't get any additional Pell Grant money if they're received full cost of attendance athletic aid.
  
  To answer your question, it depends on the school and the athlete's choices. Those that receive full COA are given money equitable to the average amount. If they choose a lifestyle well above the average amount they've mis-budgeted and won't have any spending money.

  Does COA include "walking around money"? Your argument of squeezing/working their COA is not the same as walking around money that other students could earn with a job.
• gut

  lhslep134;1484237 wrote:Except they do, so you're wrong. I direct you to NCAA bylaw 15.2.4 regarding cost of attendance.
  
  I've spent a lot of unnecessary time explaining this to you.

  Your splitting hairs on my stepping on techincal terms and refusing to answer a very simple and direct question: Are student athletes given money to directly cover entertainment and "non-educational" miscellaneous expenses? Stop feeding me the BS about "managing" a budget - either that budget explicitly allows for non-educational/entertainment expenses or it's money they don't have.
  
  Giving me $100 for a cell phone is not giving me $20 for entertainment just because I might find a deal that costs me $80 for a cell phone.
• lhslep134

  

  gut;1484238 wrote: other students could earn with a job.

  And a lot of schools provide athletes with the opportunity for summer jobs, while they're on scholarship, taking summer classes, like any other student.
  
  I'll sum up all of my posts on this issue with this last one to you: you're wrong, or at the very least ignorant to the actual reality of being a student athlete at a big time school.
• LJ

  

  said_aouita;1484185 wrote::huh:

  
  What part are you having trouble with?
• lhslep134

  

  Gut it's really freaking simple: the school provides full financial aid, and may give miscellaneous money all the way up to, but not exceeding, the full COA. Bylaw 15.4.2​
  
  You can twist that whichever way you want. I've explained what the rules are, I explained the scenario in which they would have some money to spend (proper budgeting) I don't have anything else to say on the matter.
• gut

  lhslep134;1484240 wrote: I'll sum up all of my posts on this issue with this last one to you: you're wrong, or at the very least ignorant to the actual reality of being a student athlete at a big time school.

  OK, finally found the stupid rule. I get it now.
  
  
  
• Tiernan

  Nice job Gut. Ihslep is one of those type guys that think by yelling louder it makes him sound more right.
• lhslep134

  

  gut;1484244 wrote:OK, finally found the stupid rule. I get it now.
  
  
  

  Cool, glad we can stop talking about the rule itself.
• Ironman92

  

  Fly4Fun;1484123 wrote:People generally do pee before getting into the pool and/or getting out of it. But sometimes you have to go during practice, and with the way practices are there isn't every really a break. You only cheat yourself if you take a bathroom break and coaches generally are annoyed by it. The only "down time" in a practice is in between sets. But generally in between sets is also when the next set is being explained. So if you go in between sets, you have no idea what your'e doing for the next chunk of time whether it be 10 minutes or 1 hour. So you're behind the ball as far as the next set, you have to come back, quickly figure it out, and try to integrate back in.
  
  Now the alternative is just to pee in the pool. Yes, it's urine. But it's a small amount compared to all the water you're actually in. The chlorine or whatever chemical agents the pool is using as the disinfect the pool takes care of the small amount really quick. The "complaint" is that this creates the by-products in the air which can make the "pool" smell stronger, but that really doesn't do anything bad. But beyond pee, swimmers are constantly sweating in the pool as well, which would have the same effect as pee as far as creating the by-products (yes, everyone still sweats if the're exercising in water).
  
  So if you have a 1 minute to 2 minute break between sets (that's being generous as in some instances), then would you rather spend that time relaxing for a minute peeing where you are for about 10 seconds, and then able to grab some water and maybe talk to your friends to break up the monotony of swimming endlessly. Or, don't get a drink of water (hydration is important during exercise, just coach, miss out on the set explanation, and cheat yourself out of valuable instruction and miss out on the set.
  
  And the final note regarding peeing in the pool. Often, swim suits can be difficult to go to the bathroom in (race suits for guys and any suits for girls). For guys, normal speedos/drag suits you can just untie and pull down to quickly piss at a urinal if you're so inclined. But race suits are tight enough and a delicate enough material that you don't want to constantly be stretching it, as it causes an expensive suit to wear out faster. For girls, I'm assuming they have to completely take off their suit to go to the bathroom, unless they just move and hold the material out of the way while squatting on the toilet, which just seems difficult.
  
  The swimsuit situations is the most evident at championship meets that have a warm up pool. Any time you see a swimmer or group of swimmers just hanging out in a warm up pool before their race, there is a good chance they're pissing because it's easier to pee there instead of finding a bathroom and dealing with the difficult suits.
  
  But because of all the aforementioned reasons (TL;dr list: lack of a bad effect on the actual water quality besides a brief spike in temperature, loss of chance to grab a drink and socialize, confusion for the next set, loss of chance to get instruction from coach on stroke, loss of actual in water training time, difficulty in dealing with swim suits in order to pee etc.) it's generally easier and better to just pee in the pool.
  
  And generally the kids that do get out of the pool to go to the bathroom, they are the ones that are doing it to deliberately skip some of a set or take a break from the pool and will take their time.
  
  Now I'm speaking from a middle school and older. For kids younger than that, they go to the bathroom freely and it's no issue as for most it isn't really competitive training yet but just teaching proper stroke technique with some conditioning. But once kids get to middle school the situation starts to change the frame of mind changes to one I outlined above.

  
  With apologies to S&L.....
  
  How long are these practices?
  
  I have played and coached a lot of sports and while kids have times where they need to go......I don't get why the hell every swimmer pees in the pool? Can you not have a swimming practice with a 3-5 minute break?
  
  I just don't understand why virtually everything in the world can manage a bathroom break...but swimmers can't fit one into a swimming practice?
• friendfromlowry

  I always have the unpopular opinion on the fast food threads. I'm one of the few who loves Subway.
• Fly4Fun

  

  Ironman92;1484263 wrote:With apologies to S&L.....
  
  How long are these practices?
  
  I have played and coached a lot of sports and while kids have times where they need to go......I don't get why the hell every swimmer pees in the pool? Can you not have a swimming practice with a 3-5 minute break?
  
  I just don't understand why virtually everything in the world can manage a bathroom break...but swimmers can't fit one into a swimming practice?

  Depends on the program, but usually the longest time for in-water would be around 2 1/2 to 3 hours. But practice length varies with age as well.
  
  But often, a program would consider itself lucky if it has access to a pool for that period of time for just one age group. Pools are generally very limited and many different teams share the same pools. For example, my high school had a pool. But even still we rented out pool time to 1 club team and then also two other local high school teams. So my high school team would practice first from about 3:15-5. Then the club team, which I also swam on would go from about 5-8. Then three smaller high school teams came in and practiced after that from 8-10 (they each ended up with about 1 hour of pool time a night, which is pretty limited)
  
  But as I outlined in my previous post, there really isn't a negative to peeing in the pool while there are several advantages. And all those advantages alone make it worth just peeing in the pool, it honestly just is simpler. But that combined with a lot of teams limitation to pool time makes it so coaches don't really plan for down time. Swim practices are pretty damn organized and written so there is down time, but generally the breaks (intervals) aren't long enough for someone to go to the bathroom. The only breaks long enough for someone to try to go to the bathroom is between sets, and that's when the next set is being explained or the coaches are working on stroke mechanics with the group as a whole or individuals.
• LJ

  

  friendfromlowry;1484279 wrote:I always have the unpopular opinion on the fast food threads. I'm one of the few who loves Subway.

  
  But you smell so bad for the rest of the day after going in there
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Fly4Fun;1484123 wrote:People generally do pee before getting into the pool and/or getting out of it. But sometimes you have to go during practice, and with the way practices are there isn't every really a break. You only cheat yourself if you take a bathroom break and coaches generally are annoyed by it. The only "down time" in a practice is in between sets. But generally in between sets is also when the next set is being explained. So if you go in between sets, you have no idea what your'e doing for the next chunk of time whether it be 10 minutes or 1 hour. So you're behind the ball as far as the next set, you have to come back, quickly figure it out, and try to integrate back in.
  
  Now the alternative is just to pee in the pool. Yes, it's urine. But it's a small amount compared to all the water you're actually in. The chlorine or whatever chemical agents the pool is using as the disinfect the pool takes care of the small amount really quick. The "complaint" is that this creates the by-products in the air which can make the "pool" smell stronger, but that really doesn't do anything bad. But beyond pee, swimmers are constantly sweating in the pool as well, which would have the same effect as pee as far as creating the by-products (yes, everyone still sweats if the're exercising in water).
  
  So if you have a 1 minute to 2 minute break between sets (that's being generous as in some instances), then would you rather spend that time relaxing for a minute peeing where you are for about 10 seconds, and then able to grab some water and maybe talk to your friends to break up the monotony of swimming endlessly. Or, don't get a drink of water (hydration is important during exercise, just ask Bobby Boucher), quickly hurry to the bathroom, not make it back in time, annoy your coach, miss out on the set explanation, and cheat yourself out of valuable instruction and miss out on the set.
  
  And the final note regarding peeing in the pool. Often, swim suits can be difficult to go to the bathroom in (race suits for guys and any suits for girls). For guys, normal speedos/drag suits you can just untie and pull down to quickly piss at a urinal if you're so inclined. But race suits are tight enough and a delicate enough material that you don't want to constantly be stretching it, as it causes an expensive suit to wear out faster. For girls, I'm assuming they have to completely take off their suit to go to the bathroom, unless they just move and hold the material out of the way while squatting on the toilet, which just seems difficult.
  
  The swimsuit situations is the most evident at championship meets that have a warm up pool. Any time you see a swimmer or group of swimmers just hanging out in a warm up pool before their race, there is a good chance they're pissing because it's easier to pee there instead of finding a bathroom and dealing with the difficult suits.
  
  But because of all the aforementioned reasons (TL;dr list: lack of a bad effect on the actual water quality besides a brief spike in temperature, loss of chance to grab a drink and socialize, confusion for the next set, loss of chance to get instruction from coach on stroke, loss of actual in water training time, difficulty in dealing with swim suits in order to pee etc.) it's generally easier and better to just pee in the pool.
  
  And generally the kids that do get out of the pool to go to the bathroom, they are the ones that are doing it to deliberately skip some of a set or take a break from the pool and will take their time.
  
  Now I'm speaking from a middle school and older. For kids younger than that, they go to the bathroom freely and it's no issue as for most it isn't really competitive training yet but just teaching proper stroke technique with some conditioning. But once kids get to middle school the situation starts to change the frame of mind changes to one I outlined above.

  
  Jesus... Really? Was this long of a post really fucking necessary, swim coach?
• gut

  lhslep134;1484257 wrote:Cool, glad we can stop talking about the rule itself.

  Congrats. Take note, I'm not wrong often.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Fly4Fun;1484136 wrote:
  But I typed out that post (didn't take long as I can type fast)

  
  /MB'd
• Fly4Fun

  

  ernest_t_bass;1484282 wrote:Jesus... Really? Was this long of a post really fucking necessary, swim coach?

  You're late to the party. But keep trying to mimic others to fit in. But it appears as it was necessary as I answered Ironman's question and he still had another. As I said before, if you don't want to read it, don't. No one will force you to.
• Fly4Fun

  

  LJ;1484281 wrote:But you smell so bad for the rest of the day after going in there

  I've never noticed a bad smell on someone after they are at subway. If anything the store can smell good because the bread. If someone gets one of the crab meat or another strong smelling item on their sub, then I would agree with your statement. But that's more about the specific ingredients and not the store.
• LJ

  

  Fly4Fun;1484295 wrote:I've never noticed a bad smell on someone after they are at subway. If anything the store can smell good because the bread. If someone gets one of the crab meat or another strong smelling item on their sub, then I would agree with your statement. But that's more about the specific ingredients and not the store.

  
  The bread stinks and it makes you stink. Every one I've ever been to.
• Fly4Fun

  

  LJ;1484303 wrote:The bread stinks and it makes you stink. Every one I've ever been to.

  I've never disliked the smell of fresh bread, even from subway. Difference in opinion I guess.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;1484219 wrote:""We got $1,100 a month,” Schofield said of his time at Wisconsin. “You pay rent at $650, you pay your cell phone bill and if you have a car up there you have to pay for parking. How do you pay for your bills and groceries?""
  
  That explains quite a bit - poor budgeting. Rent in Madison shouldn't be $650, how much is the cell phone bill? They don't need to purchase food, and if they do they get a stipend.
  
  I can only speak from my experience....but no one at my university was starved, the football guys lived liked kings and they had jobs in the Summer. I'd be surprised how anyone would put their name to being destitute at a I-A program.

  
  What was "your" university?
• LJ

  

  Fly4Fun;1484304 wrote:I've never disliked the smell of fresh bread, even from subway. Difference in opinion I guess.

  
  I like the smell of fresh bread too. Subway does not smell like good fresh bread.
• friendfromlowry

  LJ;1484281 wrote:But you smell so bad for the rest of the day after going in there

  Drive thru that shit, bro.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Fly4Fun;1484304 wrote:I've never disliked the smell of fresh bread, even from subway. Difference in opinion I guess.

  LOL
  
  Subway does not have "fresh" bread
• Mulva

  

  gut;1483940 wrote:Beyond a certain age, you should have to pass a driving exam, just like a 16-yr old. And probably every 3-4 years after.
  
  
  Legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling - I mean, why should I have to be poor to enjoy these things?

  I agree with all of these. Not sure they're all unpopular, but they should definitely all be implemented immediately. I miss my online poker.
• gerb131

  

  SmartPhones can be called SmartPhones when I ask where the fuck my phone at and it says over here dip shit