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MIT Shooting/Bombing Suspect Manhunt - Suspect 1: DEAD, Suspect 2: In Custody

  • WebFire
    FatHobbit;1431929 wrote:I think he is just being technical. Although I'm not sure I like them expanding the definition of WMD's.
    Can't say I disagree. WMD isn't a term you just throw around because you are pissed and emotional about what happened. Like ptown said, do you do this when someone uses a pipe bomb? There has to be a line somewhere.
  • WebFire
    GoChiefs;1431933 wrote:Technically, that is not all a WMD can be labeled as.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332a

    (2) the term “weapon of mass destruction” means—
    (A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title;

    Go to section 921.....
    (4) The term “destructive device” means—
    (A) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas—
    (i) bomb,
    (ii) grenade,
    (iii) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces,
    (iv) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,
    (v) mine, or
    (vi) device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses;
    In that case, if it fits the definition, by all means. My only point above was to not change the definition because of emotion. That never ends well.
  • Fab4Runner
    FatHobbit;1431929 wrote:I think he is just being technical. Although I'm not sure I like them expanding the definition of WMD's.
    ptown_trojans_1;1431930 wrote:Correct, legally and traditionally, a WMD is a chemical, bio, or nuclear weapon.
    Let's just call the bombing what it was, a bomb. It wasn't a WMD in the classic sense, it was a bomb.

    The dude should be locked up and then sent to death, and he will, but I'm not a fan of expanding the usage of WMD.
    That language should be reversed for the worst of the worst weapons. Sorry for my narrow application of the word.
    WebFire;1431941 wrote:Can't say I disagree. WMD isn't a term you just throw around because you are pissed and emotional about what happened. Like ptown said, do you do this when someone uses a pipe bomb? There has to be a line somewhere.
    Agree with all of this. I definitely did a double take when I saw it on the news.
  • Ghmothwdwhso
    GoChiefs;1431444 wrote:White House says he will not be charged as an enemy combatant.

    Charged with conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction.

    So Bush was right the whole time, when he said Iraq had WMD's. I knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If Obama administration can call an IED a WMD, then Bush should be able to also.
  • Pick6
    Props to reddit for owning up
    http://rt.com/usa/tripathi-last-boston-reddit-275/
  • wildcats20
    Boston Globe just tweeted that Dzokhar has admitted that he and his brother detonated the bombs and killed the police officer.
  • WebFire
    wildcats20;1432157 wrote:Boston Globe just tweeted that Dzokhar has admitted that he and his brother detonated the bombs and killed the police officer.
    Can't wait to hear what his aunt has to say.
  • vball10set
    Pick6;1432012 wrote:Props to reddit for owning up
    http://rt.com/usa/tripathi-last-boston-reddit-275/
    Did they really have a choice? :confused:
  • gut
    WebFire;1432161 wrote:Can't wait to hear what his aunt has to say.
    The nice thing about conspiracy theories is they require almost no logic in explaining away any fact.
  • gut
    vball10set;1432163 wrote:Did they really have a choice? :confused:
    Could they not see that coming? Did they actually expect a bunch of amateur detectives WOULDN'T result in at least 1 person being falsely accused all over the internetz?

    In their defense, if you are a conspiracy whacko the idea of that guy getting "activated" in the middle of the night a month ago with a phone call or whatever, and just dropping everything and walking out = totally plausible.
  • Pick6
    vball10set;1432163 wrote:Did they really have a choice? :confused:
    I mean, I was critical of them when the events were unfolding, but I havent heard of the NY Post, CNN, etc owning up.
  • Crimson streak
    http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

    Don't know if posted but still makes you think wtf lol
  • gut
    Crimson streak;1432211 wrote:http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

    Don't know if posted but still makes you think wtf lol
    Of course, he very conveniently ignores the most significant fact - multiple civilian witnesses saw these guys throwing bombs at police, and they admitted to being the Boston bombers. But never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

    Maybe Alex Jones will jump on the movie while Michael Moore is trying to figure out how he can link Bush and the Neocons.
  • Crimson streak
    gut;1432214 wrote:Of course, he very conveniently ignores the most significant fact - multiple civilian witnesses saw these guys throwing bombs at police, and they admitted to being the Boston bombers. But never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

    Maybe Alex Jones will jump on the movie while Michael Moore is trying to figure out how he can link Bush and the Neocons.

    I definitely think they did it but its still interesting and makes you think wtf lol
  • WebFire
    Crimson streak;1432211 wrote:http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

    Don't know if posted but still makes you think wtf lol
    Most of that shit is downright stupid. The only one that makes you pause is the post with the prediction.
  • gut
    WebFire;1432231 wrote:The only one that makes you pause is the post with the prediction.
    A lucky guess? I thought they would be identified within 48 hours. It took one more day. If they had gone into hiding, good luck guessing when they'd be found. If not, your choices of predicting a "raid" were probably Thurs, Fri and possibly Sat. The rest was sufficiently vague to go back ex-post and match "evidence" with "predictions".
  • reclegend22
    WebFire;1431941 wrote:Can't say I disagree. WMD isn't a term you just throw around because you are pissed and emotional about what happened. Like ptown said, do you do this when someone uses a pipe bomb? There has to be a line somewhere.
    If you do classify homemade bombs as such, then Shawn used a WMD to blow up a mailbox in episode 17 of Boy Meets World. Boss.
  • Mulva
    Did they ever release who the naked guy supposedly was?
  • reclegend22
    Mulva;1432308 wrote:Did they ever release who the naked guy supposedly was?
    Interesting twist to the story that I must have missed..
  • Mulva
    reclegend22;1432317 wrote:Interesting twist to the story that I must have missed..
    I'm not sure twist is the word, just a little surprising that it was never really given more attention (that I heard) than sort of a "by the way, this happened" courtesy. Also a little surprised that the guy hasn't made more of an outcry over the whole publicly stripped and interrogated thing.
  • reclegend22
    Ah. Just flipped through the website above and saw the photograph of the naked man being arrested. Being arrested in the nude on national television as a terrorist suspect will be a difficult situation to explain at the next job interview.
  • WebFire
    gut;1432240 wrote:A lucky guess? I thought they would be identified within 48 hours. It took one more day. If they had gone into hiding, good luck guessing when they'd be found. If not, your choices of predicting a "raid" were probably Thurs, Fri and possibly Sat. The rest was sufficiently vague to go back ex-post and match "evidence" with "predictions".
    That's pretty much what I figure as well. Take a stab at it, and you have a decent chance of nailing it. If you don't, nobody remembers it. If you do...
  • reclegend22
    WebFire;1432231 wrote:Most of that **** is downright stupid. The only one that makes you pause is the post with the prediction.
    Why are the other two men in backpacks standing in the area of attack, one of which appears to have a backpack that looks very similar to one of the bags that is believed to have housed explosives, not cause for a pause? I don't subscribe to conspiracies for the most part, but the photographs of those men -- as long as they are of valid origin and not doctored in anyway -- certainly make it look as if perhaps they had at least some form of involvement. Then again, I do not remember why those two men were cleared as suspects, so perhaps I missed something.

    There is no way the Tsarneav's acted alone. Either they had help here in the States, or the older brother was trained abroad and came back to plant those ideas into his younger brother's head. They had too many weapons, knew too much about bomb making and it just doesn't make sense.
  • sherm03
    reclegend22;1432412 wrote:Why are the other two men in backpacks standing in the area of attack, one of which appears to have a backpack that looks very similar to one of the bags that is believed to have housed explosives, not cause for a pause? I don't subscribe to conspiracies for the most part, but the photographs of those men -- as long as they are of valid origin and not doctored in anyway -- certainly make it look as if perhaps they had at least some form of involvement. Then again, I do not remember why those two men were cleared as suspects, so perhaps I missed something.

    There is no way the Tsarneav's acted alone. Either they had help here in the States, or the older brother was trained abroad and came back to plant those ideas into his younger brother's head. They had too many weapons, knew too much about bomb making and it just doesn't make sense.
    Perhaps it's because the FBI examined far more photos than were available to people on Reddit and realized that those two guys never actually dropped their backpacks.

    Sure the photo can give you pause. But it's also one photo out of the thousands and thousands that the FBI reviewed (in addition to video footage). I'm sure if there was suspicion around those two, we would have been hearing about Suspects #1-4 instead of just Suspects #1 and #2.
  • WebFire
    Do you realize how many people have backpacks at a marathon?