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2015 Ohio State Football Discussion

  • Midstate01
    Scarlet_Buckeye;1721098 wrote:The kid wants to play football. C'mon. If the world renowned Dr. James Andrews says he'll be able to play again, then that trumps any OSU doctor's medical opinion, IMO.
    I agree with you. Sounds like Meyer even agrees with you, but he said it's not like the old days where you get to argue the doctors. If they rule him out, he's out.
  • lhslep134
    Midstate01;1721110 wrote:I agree with you. Sounds like Meyer even agrees with you, but he said it's not like the old days where you get to argue the doctors. If they rule him out, he's out.
    To play devil's advocate that's sort of a self-serving statement; saying he has the ability to disagree with the doctors would make it look like they're forcing the kid out.
  • WebFire
    Midstate01;1721110 wrote:I agree with you. Sounds like Meyer even agrees with you, but he said it's not like the old days where you get to argue the doctors. If they rule him out, he's out.
    He was out for a period of time, not permanently! He would have been ready for fall camp of his FRESHMAN year.
  • Al Bundy
    WebFire;1721113 wrote:He was out for a period of time, not permanently! He would have been ready for fall camp of his FRESHMAN year.
    We don't know the long-term impact of the injury. Why take the risk on the kid when there are others who have the same potential without the injury baggage?
  • sleeper
    Really OSU is just looking out for the kid in the long term. $10 says this kid will go elsewhere and end up getting seriously injured and never finish his degree. At least at OSU he will get a quality education and have his health for the long term. I get that he's mad, but sometimes at that age you are dumb as rocks and don't understand what you are getting into. This isn't the SEC where they milk every last ounce out of an athlete until they are hurt AND THEN cut them; OSU is just being honest up front and offering the benefits without the burden of playing football.
  • Midstate01
    I think the fact that it IS HIS FRESHMAN YEAR, tells you that this isn't a case of trying to cut someone out for numbers. If he were a junior, or even a sophomore then I would side with that argument. But I'm sure they'd rather lose a older kid who's not getting better than a kid who they haven't even gotten their hands on yet.

    Plus the kid is free to go anywhere he wants so it's not like he has to quit football because the osu doctors wouldn't clear him.

    I understand the look bad aspect of this but Meyer didn't even avoid the questions today, so he clearly feels they did what they were supposed to do.
  • lhslep134
    Al Bundy;1721115 wrote:Why take the risk on the kid when there are others who have the same potential without the injury baggage?
    Because you offered the kid a scholarship to play football at your school. Again, just playing devil's advocate bc I'm OK with Meyer's actions; we offered to pay for his education anyways.
  • HitsRus
    ^^^^and apparently he still can....it just might have to be for another school.
  • WebFire
    Al Bundy;1721115 wrote:We don't know the long-term impact of the injury. Why take the risk on the kid when we need to trim our roster down to 85 by fall?
    FIFY
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    Midstate01;1721110 wrote:I agree with you. Sounds like Meyer even agrees with you, but he said it's not like the old days where you get to argue the doctors. If they rule him out, he's out.
    1,000% agree with this. But my gut tells me there's some pressure from Meyer and/or if Meyer truly wanted this kid he could get the doctors to pass him.

    If Dr. James Andrews is saying the kid is okay, then what in the world are these tOSU doctors looking at?!
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    Midstate01;1721117 wrote:I think the fact that it IS HIS FRESHMAN YEAR, tells you that this isn't a case of trying to cut someone out for numbers. If he were a junior, or even a sophomore then I would side with that argument. But I'm sure they'd rather lose a older kid who's not getting better than a kid who they haven't even gotten their hands on yet.

    Plus the kid is free to go anywhere he wants so it's not like he has to quit football because the osu doctors wouldn't clear him.

    I understand the look bad aspect of this but Meyer didn't even avoid the questions today, so he clearly feels they did what they were supposed to do.
    ? They were at 88. They need to get down to 85. They're now at 87. I'm not sure I follow your logic.
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    Since we're on the topic...

    Urban Meyer 'absolutely forthright' with Jamel Dean
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    At least Meyer didn't put the kid back out onto the field, #AmIRite?

  • lhslep134
    lhslep134;1721118 wrote:Because you offered the kid a scholarship to play football at your school. Again, just playing devil's advocate bc I'm OK with Meyer's actions; we offered to pay for his education anyways.
    HitsRus;1721127 wrote:^^^^and apparently he still can....it just might have to be for another school.
    My point is that you offered for him to play at your school and you responded by saying he can, at another school. That makes no sense lol
  • Automatik
    #DYNASTY

    [h=1]MEYER NOW HIGHEST PAID B1G COACH[/h]Ohio State extended Urban Meyer's contract through 2020 and will give him the highest average salary among Big Ten coaches. Meyer will get $6.5M per year over the next six years. He was scheduled to make $4.9M in 2015.
  • sleeper
    Meyer just had his contract extended to 2020; making him the highest paid Big Ten coach at $6.5M a year. That is a $1.6M per year increase.

    Still vastly underpaid in my opinion. He's still makes a half million less than Nick Saban, a coach he just blew out 3 months ago.
  • Lovejoy1984
    Scarlet_Buckeye;1721145 wrote:? They were at 88. They need to get down to 85. They're now at 87. I'm not sure I follow your logic.
    If they were forcing a kid out to make the numbers, they would more than likely force out a "known" talent, or lack there of, rather than a kid who's yet to lace them up and show what he has.
  • sleeper
    HighRoller74;1721159 wrote:If they were forcing a kid out to make the numbers, they would more than likely force out a "known" talent, or lack there of, rather than a kid who's yet to lace them up and show what he has.
    To be fair, that's going to have to happen to someone to get down to 85.
  • WebFire
    sleeper;1721161 wrote:To be fair, that's going to have to happen to someone to get down to 85.
    Correct. An SEC tactic you all used to loathe.
  • sleeper
    WebFire;1721162 wrote:Correct. An SEC tactic you all used to loathe.
    Well at least Michigan holds itself to the highest standards and wouldn't put a concussed kid on the field.
  • Automatik
    WebFire;1721162 wrote:Correct. An SEC tactic you all used to loathe.
    What tactic is that? You seem to have your hand on the pulse of Buckeye nation, so please elaborate.
  • WebFire
    Automatik;1721165 wrote:What tactic is that? You seem to have your hand on the pulse of Buckeye nation, so please elaborate.
    Really? It's pretty obvious if you read above.
  • WebFire
    sleeper;1721163 wrote:Well at least Michigan holds itself to the highest standards and wouldn't put a concussed kid on the field.
    You bet. Now, stay on topic.
  • sleeper
    WebFire;1721167 wrote:You bet. Now, stay on topic.
    I'm not sure what more there is to discuss. The "2015 Ohio State Football Discussion" can be summed up with the following:

    We will go undefeated, beat Michigan, win the B1G, and win the National Championship.

    Time to start talking about 2016.
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    Automatik;1721155 wrote:#DYNASTY

    MEYER NOW HIGHEST PAID B1G COACH

    Ohio State extended Urban Meyer's contract through 2020 and will give him the highest average salary among Big Ten coaches. Meyer will get $6.5M per year over the next six years. He was scheduled to make $4.9M in 2015.
    Absolutely no reason why Meyer shouldn't be the highest paid football coach in the Big Ten.