Who's the Heisman favorite now?
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LJ
Tim Tebow was top 4 in QB rating all 3 years he was a starter. The hype was a product of his play.vball10set;1338777 wrote:See Tebow, Tim...are you really that dense? do you even watch college football outside of OSU games??
Manziel picked up his nickname due to his play long before the media ever picked up on it. -
LJ
Ole Miss has a higher ranked defense than MSU. Missouri was 1 below MSU. Shows how much you know.karen lotz;1338778 wrote:I'll give you Alabama and maybe MSU. And I'll throw in Auburn, Arkansas, SMU, and South Carolina STATE.
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karen lotz
jordo212000;1338770 wrote:He plays in the SEC?! I've heard it all now. Notre Dame people have no leg to stand on when it comes to schedule comparisons
lol SEC! SEC!
A&M played 2 FCS teams this year, clown. Tell me about their schedule comparison, OSU/SEC person. -
karen lotz
LJ;1338784 wrote:Ole Miss has a higher ranked defense than MSU. Missouri was 1 below MSU. Shows how much you know.
congrats, they gave up over 30 points a game including a shutout of Tulane. STOUT. -
vball10set
but it WAS media hype, nonetheless, just like it is with Manziel (and it makes no difference when he got it, but, as I stated, it's the fact that the media has drawn on it ad nauseam, ala Tebow)....btw, you obviously profess to know all things Manziel, so please tell me when he did receive this "long" derived nickname, for curiosity sake.LJ;1338781 wrote:Tim Tebow was top 4 in QB rating all 3 years he was a starter. The hype was a product of his play.
Manziel picked up his nickname due to his play long before the media ever picked up on it. -
LJ
...karen lotz;1338788 wrote:congrats, they gave up over 30 points a game including a shutout of Tulane. STOUT.karen lotz;1338788 wrote:LOL -
LJ
They were referring to him as Johnny Football on Reddit before the season startedvball10set;1338789 wrote:but it WAS media hype, nonetheless, just like it is with Manziel (and it makes no difference when he got it, but, as I stated, it's the fact that the media has drawn on it ad nauseam, ala Tebow)....btw, you obviously profess to know all things Manziel, so please tell me when he did receive this "long" derived nickname, for curiosity sake. -
karen lotz
also, here are wins of the powerhouses Manziel beat up on this year according to LJ:
Jackson St, Auburn, Troy, South Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mid Tennessee, Arkansas
SE Louisiana, Arizona St, UCF, Kentucky, Tennessee
Central Arkansas, UTEP, Tulane, Auburn, Arkansas, Miss St
Tell me how impressive those defenses had to be to run those gauntlets.
Just so you don't have to do the math, LJ. That group had ONE win against a BCS program not from the SEC. -
vball10set
oh, okayLJ;1338793 wrote:They were referring to him as Johnny Football on Reddit before the season started -
James GatzSolid meltdown by karen
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LJ
...karen lotz;1338795 wrote:also, here are wins of the powerhouses Manziel beat up on this year according to LJ:
Jackson St, Auburn, Troy, South Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mid Tennessee, Arkansas
SE Louisiana, Arizona St, UCF, Kentucky, Tennessee
Central Arkansas, UTEP, Tulane, Auburn, Arkansas, Miss St
Tell me how impressive those defenses had to be to run those gauntlets.
Not sure I have ever seen jimmies as rustled as your are right now.....karen lotz;1338795 wrote:LOL
Here bro, calm down
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karen lotz
James Gatz;1338799 wrote:Solid meltdown by karen
eh, hardly a meltdown, dlazz (i'm guessing). if LJ and jordo are going to say how great the SEC teams Manziel played well against are, I'm going to show them they are wrong. -
LJ
By "they" I mean Aggie fans. I dunno if that was his HS nickname or what.vball10set;1338797 wrote:oh, okay -
LJ
Never said they were great. Please quote, thanks. Just showing that he had good numbers against some defenses that weren't awful.karen lotz;1338801 wrote:eh, hardly a meltdown, dlazz (i'm guessing). if LJ and jordo are going to say how great the SEC teams Manziel played well against are, I'm going to show them they are wrong. -
karen lotz
LJ;1338800 wrote:...
Not sure I have ever seen jimmies as rustled as your are right now.....
Here bro, calm down
my jimmies are just fine. tell us more about how much you know, please? -
vball10set
got ya'LJ;1338802 wrote:By "they" I mean Aggie fans. I dunno if that was his HS nickname or what. -
jordo212000
Karen do you think Shazier should have got an invite to New York?
Shazier had more tackles, sacks, passes defended and forced fumbles. He also had more tackles for loss than Te'o and even scored a TD -
LJ
Stating my opinion based off of factual stats.... Yeah, I'm totally going on and on about how much I know.karen lotz;1338805 wrote:my jimmies are just fine. tell us more about how much you know, please?
Make up more things I never said, please? -
killer_ewok
karen lotz;1338776 wrote:around 30th out of however many years they've had it. Mid 70s.
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karen lotz
You are pretty smart and I'm not sure how this is relevant SEC schedule strength, but...jordo212000;1338807 wrote:Karen do you think Shazier should have got an invite to New York?
Shazier had more tackles, sacks, passes defended and forced fumbles. He also had more tackles for loss than Te'o and even scored a TD
no, he was possibly (?) the best player on an average defense. I'm not sure why all you can think of are stats. Shouldn't Jordan Lynch have beaten out Manziel in your opinion? He had better stats? -
jordo212000
karen lotz;1338815 wrote:You are pretty smart and I'm not sure how this is relevant SEC schedule strength, but...
no, he was possibly (?) the best player on an average defense. I'm not sure why all you can think of are stats. Shouldn't Jordan Lynch have beaten out Manziel in your opinion? He had better stats?
So what is the award about then? Is it not about stats at all? Is it only about integrity and leadership for you? Or battling adversity? Or having a sad story -
karen lotz
LJ;1338808 wrote:Stating my opinion based off of factual stats.... Yeah, I'm totally going on and on about how much I know.
Make up more things I never said, please?
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karen lotz
killer_ewok;1338814 wrote:Thank you.
You're welcome. -
karen lotz
jordo212000;1338817 wrote:So what is the award about then? Is it not about stats at all? Is it only about integrity and leadership for you? Or battling adversity? Or having a sad story
yeah, correct. not about stats at all and only about sad stories and integrity. -
stlouiedipalma
And intense media hype. Johnny Football will be under great pressure next season to repeat.karen lotz;1338821 wrote:yeah, correct. not about stats at all and only about sad stories and integrity.