Who's the Heisman favorite now?

• karen lotz

  

  se-alum;1338313 wrote:Read a stat the other day that, on average, T'eo made his tackles 5.1 yards from the LOS.

  
  Gee I wonder where you saw that!!!!
• vball10set

  Te'o is the best player on the best defense on the #1 team in the country...can any of the other candidates make a comparable claim?
• cats gone wild

  So, a defensive player on a top ranked team should get heisman every year? Is that what your implying? AJ McCarron has the least amount of ints in the country for the team thats going to smack ND around and become the new #1. Should he get it? He is the best QB on their team. Who else can say that? And yes, I know he's not invited. Out of the players invited last year, RGIII wasnt on a top team. It didnt stop him from winning.
  Btw, Manziels stats, how much better A&M is compared to recent history, beating Bama, being only a freshman, a guy who wasnt recruited by anyone, etc....... is more than what T'eo accomplished as a senior.
• End of Line

  

  If Spielman didn't win it in 87, no linebacker should ever come close.
• WebFire

  Midstate01;1338191 wrote:Poor webbie. Always obsessed with bringing osu into things.

  To bad you don't pay attention. I was right along with the OSU fans comparing Shazier.
• sleeper

  

  End of Line;1338355 wrote:If Spielman didn't win it in 87, no linebacker should ever come close.

  One word: Suh
• Automatik

  

  WebFire;1338185 wrote:Oh then we can stop with the Shazier comparisons?

  Not sure what you're getting at.
  
  But I'll ask you as well...
  
  Do you know how the Heisman works nowadays?
• Classyposter58

  

  sleeper;1338400 wrote:One word: Suh

  Yeah I remember watching his game against Texas and thinking o my god this guy is unreal. For a defensive tackle to do what he did was shocking, thank god the Lions drafted him
  
  I think Teo has been unreal this season but even without him I think Notre Dame is still at least 10-2 and in a BCS bowl, A&M would be 6-6 easily without Johnny Football
• WebFire

  Automatik;1338402 wrote:Not sure what you're getting at.
  
  But I'll ask you as well...
  
  Do you know how the Heisman works nowadays?

  I do know how it works. Don't always agree, and neither do a lot of others.
  
  My point was that many on here were comparing stats of Shazier to Te'o as a reason why Te'o shouldn't win. I got in on that as well. So if you are going to tell another poster that stats don't matter, then we can stop with the Shazier comparisons.
  
  Right?
• Tiernan

  Just read that Colin Klein never kissed his wife until they were married...yeah you read that correctly..."kissed" as in smooched.
  
  OK this kid is a psycho as is his wife, cross him off the list as if he had a chance anyway. Man-zier wins the damn thing...give it to him already and lets be done with it.
• Automatik

  

  WebFire;1338454 wrote:I do know how it works. Don't always agree, and neither do a lot of others.
  
  My point was that many on here were comparing stats of Shazier to Te'o as a reason why Te'o shouldn't win. I got in on that as well. So if you are going to tell another poster that stats don't matter, then we can stop with the Shazier comparisons.
  
  Right?

  1. I never said stats don't matter. 2. I never compared Shazier and Te'o in regards to Te'o not winning it. I've said it a million times, what one person says DOES NOT speak for an entire fanbase.
  
  RG3 and Tebow were the exception. The Heisman caters to the best player on the top 1-2 teams and they must have the numbers to back it up. If ND had a legit star on offense Te'o wouldn't even be in the convo.
• WebFire

  Automatik;1338547 wrote:1. I never said stats don't matter. 2. I never compared Shazier and Te'o in regards to Te'o not winning it. I've said it a million times, what one person says DOES NOT speak for an entire fanbase.

  I must have misunderstood your response of "Do you know how the Heisman works?" to a post about stats.
• WebFire

  WebFire;1338549 wrote:I must have misunderstood your response of "Do you know how the Heisman works?" to a post about stats.

  My bad. I went back and reread that. I misread.
• James Gatz

  Manziel has won. Heisman voter polling has him running away with it, possibly one of the 10 largest.blowouts ever.
• killer_ewok

  

  Congrats to Johnny Heisman. He deserved it. He'll win another Heisman before his A&M career is over.
• killer_ewok

  

  James Gatz;1338577 wrote:Manziel has won. Heisman voter polling has him running away with it, possibly one of the 10 largest.blowouts ever.

  
  2,029 for Manziel and 1,706 for Te'o. Is that really one of the 10 largest Heisman blowouts ever?
• jordo212000

  

  Not surprised at all. The other two guys were just there to create drama for ESPN, even though nobody actually in their heart of hearts thought they deserved to win
• sherm03

  

  jordo212000;1338678 wrote:Not surprised at all. The other two guys were just there to create drama for ESPN, even though nobody actually in their heart of hearts thought they deserved to win

  Looks like 321 people thought Te'o deserved to win.
  
  Good for Johnny Football. I'd rather Te'o get a ring anyway.
• Azubuike24

  

  The real "Hollywood story" is how Manziel went from 3rd string to Heisman winner, in the same year A&M joined the SEC. The same year he likely led his team to a victory (and the only loss for) over the national champions.
  
  Even more amazing...he's a Freshman. The pressure on him in the next 2 years...wow.
• jordo212000

  

  ccrunner609;1338682 wrote:You pick up alot of votes when its a 2 horse race. If he wasnt playing for ND he wouldnt of even been there.

  
  I'm trying to figure out why his stats warranted 1st place votes? I'm guessing it was his story?
• karen lotz

  

  jordo212000;1338684 wrote:I'm trying to figure out why his stats warranted 1st place votes? I'm guessing it was his story?

  
  lol still waiting on you showing us where it says stats in the Heisman statement. I'm guessing you can't?
• Azubuike24

  

  Justice served. For example, Terrell Suggs had 24 sacks in a single season yet didn't make it as a Heisman finalist.
  
  Te'o winning would've been a slap in the face to dozens of amazing defensive players over the years who never even made it to New York. I'm sorry, but he's not even in the league as some of these guys...let alone better.
• karen lotz

  

  Congrats to Manziel, put up good numbers in a system built to do so.
• vball10set

  This really is too bad. The Heisman not only continues to lose credibility, but IMO this is the beginning of the end of the award as we know it. It'll fade into irrelevance, ala the NIT in basketball.
• Trueblue23

  

  vball10set;1338690 wrote:This really is too bad. The Heisman not only continues to lose credibility, but IMO this is the beginning of the end of the award as we know it. It'll fade into irrelevance, ala the NIT in basketball.

  What makes you think that? The dude deserved to win.