Will you watch?

• enigmaax

  sleeper;1002546 wrote:OK St has beat 8.

  Where do you come up with this stuff? Real answer is 5. Alabama beat those 3 teams with winning records, along with three 6-6 teams....you know, like the one team that Oklahoma State couldn't beat.
• enigmaax

  HitsRus;1002557 wrote:^^^^hopefuly this becomes a catalyst to change.

  It might, but it isn't likely to be the change you're looking for.
• sleeper

  

  WebFire;1002555 wrote:I don't disagree, but that's not what the BCS does. That is what a playoff does. So as long as people so CFB cannot possibly have a playoff, this is the system we have. Arguing over number 2.

  BCS always says the regular season is a playoff. Apparently its not.
• Rotinaj

  

  sleeper;1002538 wrote:OSU best team in the best conference, Alabama not even #2 in their own conference. It's fraud.

  False. Everyone knows the B1G has been and always will be the best conference.
• sleeper

  

  Rotinaj;1002568 wrote:False. Everyone knows the B1G has been and always will be the best conference.

  Sure. But the computers say otherwise.
• sleeper

  

  enigmaax;1002563 wrote:Where do you come up with this stuff? Real answer is 5. Alabama beat those 3 teams with winning records, along with three 6-6 teams....you know, like the one team that Oklahoma State couldn't beat.

  And they didn't even win their own conference. How can you be the NC when you can't even when your own conference?
• enigmaax

  sleeper;1002572 wrote:And they didn't even win their own conference. How can you be the NC when you can't even when your own conference?

  Lose to the #1 team in a conference game and be better than every other conference champion including those who lose to 6-6 teams. Duh.
• sherm03

  

  se-alum;1002560 wrote:You still haven't touched on why 'Bama should be #2. Is it because they lost to the #1 team, and beat a few teams with winning records? Also, Iowa State was 6-6, so let's not make it sound like they were just a terrible team.

  They lost to the #1 team and dropped. It was up to the teams ahead of them to stay the course, and they couldn't. Alabama didn't have to do anything after losing to LSU except keep winning and hope the teams ahead of them fall. That's exactly what happened, and that's exactly why they are ranked #2 and playing for the National Title.
  
  If Oklahoma State, Stanford, or Oregon could have gotten the job done on the field, this wouldn't be a discussion right now.
  
  This does nothing for me except remind me that I wish they didn't have preseason rankings. If you wait to rank teams until around week 5 or 6, you would have a better idea of who the best teams are, rather than just basing it off of who is coming back for which team. But, that won't sell magazines or get internet hits. So there will always be preseason rankings.
• WebFire

  sleeper;1002566 wrote:BCS always says the regular season is a playoff. Apparently its not.

  It is in some sense, but it's not an elimination playoff. Otherwise, You'd have to disqualify ever team the lost a game.
• stroups

  

  Might watch the game on mute, can't stand to listen to the SEC love fest. If I was an okie st. fan I might occupy nola and protest that shit.
• FatHobbit

  

  I probably won't watch unless there is absolutely nothing else to do that night. We already know LSU can beat Alabama at night in Tuscaloosa. Maybe Bama will have found a kicker by then, but we'll never find out what OSU could have done to LSU's defense.
  
  I do agree with a few posters that had OSU beaten a terrible ISU team they wouldn't have anything to complain about. That's the way the system works I guess.
• se-alum

  

  sherm03;1002588 wrote:They lost to the #1 team and dropped. It was up to the teams ahead of them to stay the course, and they couldn't. Alabama didn't have to do anything after losing to LSU except keep winning and hope the teams ahead of them fall. That's exactly what happened, and that's exactly why they are ranked #2 and playing for the National Title.
  
  If Oklahoma State, Stanford, or Oregon could have gotten the job done on the field, this wouldn't be a discussion right now.
  
  This does nothing for me except remind me that I wish they didn't have preseason rankings. If you wait to rank teams until around week 5 or 6, you would have a better idea of who the best teams are, rather than just basing it off of who is coming back for which team. But, that won't sell magazines or get internet hits. So there will always be preseason rankings.

  I just can't imagine a NCG that really doesn't settle anything. It has nothing to do with the teams or the conference the teams belong to. I know why they put Alabama in the game, I just don't agree with it. The best 'Bama could hope for should be a split in the polls if they win.
• enigmaax

  se-alum;1002606 wrote:I just can't imagine a NCG that really doesn't settle anything. It has nothing to do with the teams or the conference the teams belong to. I know why they put Alabama in the game, I just don't agree with it. The best 'Bama could hope for should be a split in the polls if they win.

  Ha ha, then the SEC could claim 7 national championship teams in 6 years.
• lhslep134

  

  sherm03;1002588 wrote:They lost to the #1 team and dropped. It was up to the teams ahead of them to stay the course, and they couldn't. Alabama didn't have to do anything after losing to LSU except keep winning and hope the teams ahead of them fall. That's exactly what happened, and that's exactly why they are ranked #2 and playing for the National Title.
  
  If Oklahoma State, Stanford, or Oregon could have gotten the job done on the field, this wouldn't be a discussion right now.
  
  This does nothing for me except remind me that I wish they didn't have preseason rankings. If you wait to rank teams until around week 5 or 6, you would have a better idea of who the best teams are, rather than just basing it off of who is coming back for which team. But, that won't sell magazines or get internet hits. So there will always be preseason rankings.

  Great post. Alabama was justifiably OUT of the national championship picture until the teams ahead of them sh*t the bed. You can't fault Alabama because OSU blew a 17 point lead to a terrible Iowa State team.
  
  
  And for everyone asking what makes Alabama the #2 team: look at their roster! IMO there's no way in hell OSU would beat Alabama head to head.
  
  
  We've seen what happens when these "elite" Big 12 offenses run into actual defenses in bowl games. It's not pretty. Sam Bradford's OU offense was more talented than this OSU offense and they ran into a buzzsaw against Florida's athletic defense. So say what you want about OSU deserving a shot, but I'd rather watch a more competitive national championship game, between the 2 most talented teams, than watch OSU struggle against an actual defense.
• vball10set

  I wonder how many of the 35 posters who say they won't watch actually will watch--it's the last college football game of the season, for godsakes!!!
• queencitybuckeye

  None of the matchups are "must watch" types. If I'm home, and happen to remember it's on...
• Manhattan Buckeye

  vball10set;1002624 wrote:I wonder how many of the 35 posters who say they won't watch actually will watch--it's the last college football game of the season, for godsakes!!!

  I can pretty much guaran-damn-tee I won't be watching the game. I don't care about LSU. I don't care about Alabama. I certainly don't care about LSU vs. Alabama II and another SEC lovefest from the announcers. If I have to take off work to catch a game at a bar on on slingbox, it is going to be OSU-Florida, Wisky-Oregon or OSU-Stanford.
• sleeper

  

  enigmaax;1002578 wrote:Lose to the #1 team in a conference game and be better than every other conference champion including those who lose to 6-6 teams. Duh.

  Prove they are better than OKST. You can't. You can however prove that LSU is better than Alabama. #sleeperwins
• sleeper

  

  lhslep134;1002609 wrote:Great post. Alabama was justifiably OUT of the national championship picture until the teams ahead of them sh*t the bed. You can't fault Alabama because OSU blew a 17 point lead to a terrible Iowa State team.
  
  
  And for everyone asking what makes Alabama the #2 team: look at their roster! IMO there's no way in hell OSU would beat Alabama head to head.
  
  
  We've seen what happens when these "elite" Big 12 offenses run into actual defenses in bowl games. It's not pretty. Sam Bradford's OU offense was more talented than this OSU offense and they ran into a buzzsaw against Florida's athletic defense. So say what you want about OSU deserving a shot, but I'd rather watch a more competitive national championship game, between the 2 most talented teams, than watch OSU struggle against an actual defense.

  Prove it.
• SportsAndLady

  

  se-alum;1002560 wrote:Also, Iowa State was 6-6, so let's not make it sound like they were just a terrible team.

  Yeah and they're playing a really good team in their bowl game
  
  
  
• SportsAndLady

  

  sleeper;1002705 wrote:Prove it.

  He can't. He just says this shit because it can't be proven otherwise.
  
  LOL @ "look at their roster!" Yeah, because that's how the championship game should be determined every year...nevermind their lousy wins
• enigmaax

  sleeper;1002703 wrote:Prove they are better than OKST. You can't. You can however prove that LSU is better than Alabama. #sleeperwins

  I don't really have to prove that. Alabama is in the title game because they were already deemed better by those whose opinions and formulas actually count. That is how it happened, regardless of how much you like it.
• lhslep134

  

  sleeper;1002705 wrote:Prove it.

  Prove otherwise
  
  It's an endless game where you can't prove who is better between Alabama and Oklahoma State.
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;1002734 wrote:He can't. He just says this **** because it can't be proven otherwise.
  
  LOL @ "look at their roster!" Yeah, because that's how the championship game should be determined every year...nevermind their lousy wins

  I don't have to prove it. I said in my opinion. You don't have to prove an opinion.
  
  But don't let facts get in the way of your QQing.
• sherm03

  

  se-alum;1002606 wrote:I just can't imagine a NCG that really doesn't settle anything. It has nothing to do with the teams or the conference the teams belong to. I know why they put Alabama in the game, I just don't agree with it. The best 'Bama could hope for should be a split in the polls if they win.

  This is where the problem is...people need to realize that this isn't a National Championship. There has never ever ever been an NCAA national champion at the highest level of college football. Once you can get past the thought that the BCS title game is nothing more than a way to appease people who were just upset at writer's naming a champion, you can stop worrying about who is in the title game or how we need a playoff and you'll just be able to enjoy the game.