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  • enigmaax
    SportsAndLady;808530 wrote: A lot of sleeper's posts include hyperbole and 'stretches' that some people simply cannot understand is just for the lulz,
    For the record, I get this. Does everyone think that I wrote all that stuff believing Urban Meyer is a "paragon of virtue". There was no attempt to make sleeper believe anything different, I was merely taking the opposite extreme.
    SportsAndLady;808530 wrote: but for the most part his main points still stand and usually are correct (not everyones perfect).

    Usually, just not when it comes to saying the Big Ten is the best conference (or that they have a winning record overall against the SEC).
  • sleeper
    enigmaax;808594 wrote: Usually, just not when it comes to saying the Big Ten is the best conference (or that they have a winning record overall against the SEC).

    http://motownsportsrevival.blogspot.com/2010/01/big-ten-vs-sec.html

    And, the Big Ten has won 42 National Titles in its history, the SEC has a measly 31. So, 11 more National Titles and we can put the SEC in the conversation.
  • SportsAndLady
    enigmaax;808589 wrote:I agree. A person either sees all these folks as cheaters (OSU included) or they see all these folks as doing what they have to do for their circumstances. I don't feel the rules have anything to do with the actual game, so I don't care if it is Florida, OSU, or anyone else. For the people who have long thought OSU was above everyone else (or anyone else who thought their school was - I just don't encounter as many of those), it was never enough to say, "your school does it too." Now, there's proof, so those people either have to accept that they were wrong all along and call a spade a spade (there's not much difference between the top schools) or compromise what they thought were their principles (principles which are kind of silly in my opinion, when you are talking about a sports team that you choose to watch).

    Yeah, I just feel like I have a different approach to OSU then some of the "old timers" look at centralbuckfan's posts, he is literally saddened by these violations and feels like OSU "let him down" Okay, I get it, you are an alum and you want your program to exhibit class and carry on tradition...fact is, times are changing. Athletes do not want to be exploited for their talents (can you blame them?) without a share of the prize. They cannot get a share of the prize, so they have to go to other outlets--boosters, alumnit, etc etc etc. Does that make them "cheaters"? NO! Does it make the program dirty? Yes, but there is a difference in "dirtiness" levels between taking money from an alumni, and raping bitches, being arrested, put in jail for. Like I said earlier, I'm glad the team I root for has the dirtiness level of the former, rather than the ladder.
  • SportsAndLady
    enigmaax;808594 wrote:For the record, I get this. Does everyone think that I wrote all that stuff believing Urban Meyer is a "paragon of virtue". There was no attempt to make sleeper believe anything different, I was merely taking the opposite extreme.QUOTE]

    I got it. I understood you were just arguing for the sake of arguing, and yes every now and then it is fun to do. I don't think you really believed what you were typing, rather just having a little fun.
    Usually, just not when it comes to saying the Big Ten is the best conference (or that they have a winning record overall against the SEC).[/
    Like I said, hyperboles.

    However, if you are talking about the best all time..the Big Ten certainly has an argument.

    Right now..no, it's the SEC..there's no argument. What really pisses me off about SEC fans though, is they don't undestand it's cyclical. They are experiencing historic success right now, as a conference (which, by the way, I have no hatred for supporting your conference...SEC fans take a lot of flack for that, but it's totally warranted...I mean if the Big Ten had won 5 consecutive titles, I'd be chest pumping the B10 as well), however, they also have to undestand that their down period is coming, history proves that.
  • enigmaax
    sleeper;808614 wrote:http://motownsportsrevival.blogspot.com/2010/01/big-ten-vs-sec.html

    And, the Big Ten has won 42 National Titles in its history, the SEC has a measly 31. So, 11 more National Titles and we can put the SEC in the conversation.

    Funny blog. Nothing the guy says backs up the Big Ten being better. He changes his point to: 1) the SEC should be waaay better and 2) if things were different, the SEC might not be better. Lame-o.

    Oooh, that National Title stat is a killer. How many of those did the Big Ten win before the SEC existed? For that matter, pick your stance. Does all of history count or only the last 20 years (when you are talking about Notre Dame) or is it only after Tressel became coach (when you are talking about Michigan)?

    You know, Muhammad Ali was a great fighter. Was being the operative word. The SEC is the best conference. Right now.

    I'll propose a couple of questions, even though you won't take them seriously - maybe someone else can answer. If you were the AD at a rising national power with a standing invite to join the Big Ten or the SEC, which would you choose if you based your decision entirely on the probability of reaching the following goals:

    1) Win a conference title
    2) Win a national title

    I would think, to win a conference title, you'd look and say there's one program you have to compete with (and maybe 3 others that are obstacles). In the SEC, you have four recent national title winners, five all together in the BCS era, plus another national title winning coach, plus another program that averages nearly 10 wins a year. It'd just be more difficult to win a conference title in the SEC.

    Now, for a national title, you have to figure it a couple of ways. If you go undefeated, you are a lock in one of those conferences. If you slip up once and fall into a group of teams with a loss, in one of those conferences you are still going to have plenty of good wins to differentiate yourself.

    Ultimately, you and I can sit here and throw out all of the stats and one liners we want, but when it comes down to it the only thing that matters is the pecking order and the SEC has that top spot locked up.
  • enigmaax
    SportsAndLady;808667 wrote:However, if you are talking about the best all time..the Big Ten certainly has an argument.

    Right now..no, it's the SEC..there's no argument. What really pisses me off about SEC fans though, is they don't undestand it's cyclical. They are experiencing historic success right now, as a conference (which, by the way, I have no hatred for supporting your conference...SEC fans take a lot of flack for that, but it's totally warranted...I mean if the Big Ten had won 5 consecutive titles, I'd be chest pumping the B10 as well), however, they also have to undestand that their down period is coming, history proves that.

    Agree on all points. The one misconception that I think some non-SEC fans have is that the losing SEC teams chant S-E-C when another team wins. You hear those chants by winning teams, as a shout out to their conference counterparts. That is a lot different than a loser riding a winner's coattails.

    I didn't mind when Alabama and LSU won their titles, but really only because I regularly associate with some of their fans. The only team I hate more than Auburn is Tennessee (actually, I might hate Wisconsin more too), so I absolutely wanted Oregon to win last year's title game. None of those games made me feel any differently about the fact Florida wasn't playing - the title game sucks for fans of every team but one every year.
  • SportsAndLady
    enigmaax;808727 wrote:Agree on all points. The one misconception that I think some non-SEC fans have is that the losing SEC teams chant S-E-C when another team wins. You hear those chants by winning teams, as a shout out to their conference counterparts. That is a lot different than a loser riding a winner's coattails.

    I didn't mind when Alabama and LSU won their titles, but really only because I regularly associate with some of their fans. The only team I hate more than Auburn is Tennessee (actually, I might hate Wisconsin more too), so I absolutely wanted Oregon to win last year's title game. None of those games made me feel any differently about the fact Florida wasn't playing - the title game sucks for fans of every team but one every year.

    Why do you hate Auburn, Tennessee, and Wisconsin?

    BTW, who do you even like? lol
  • enigmaax
    SportsAndLady;808937 wrote:Why do you hate Auburn, Tennessee, and Wisconsin?

    BTW, who do you even like? lol

    I like Florida. It is probably obvious why I don't like Tennessee and Auburn.

    Wisconsin = boring...boring helmets, boring uniforms, boring coaches, boring style of play...but started hating them back in the 80s when they beat Ohio State something like 5 out of 6 years (maybe 4 out of 5...I don't know). It was solidified last year when I worked in Wisconsin for a week right around the time the divisions were announced for the Big Ten. A couple guys tried to sell me that Wisconsin-Minnesota is the oldest rivalry and thus, the most important to preserve, but that Wisconsin should also be able to keep Iowa (because that is their real rival) and dibs on Nebraska since they would have a natural rivalry (why, because they both wear red and white?). And then there was the ensuing, "we got screwed" when the Big Ten really didn't give them anything they wanted. Geezus, talk about an irrelevant team being oversold in their own minds. (I did, however, buy that they would beat OSU...and won money from a friend after making the bet before the season started.)
  • centralbucksfan
    OSU Oline commit Kalis visiting UM this weekend. One of his good buddies recently committed to UM and has encouraged Kalis to visit. This would be a HUGE loss for OSU if he de-commits. He is one fo the top Oline recruits in the country.
  • Midstate01
    centralbucksfan;810479 wrote:OSU Oline commit Kalis visiting UM this weekend. One of his good buddies recently committed to UM and has encouraged Kalis to visit. This would be a HUGE loss for OSU if he de-commits. He is one fo the top Oline recruits in the country.

    He already decomitted
  • vball10set
    centralbucksfan;810479 wrote:OSU Oline commit Kalis visiting UM this weekend. One of his good buddies recently committed to UM and has encouraged Kalis to visit. This would be a HUGE loss for OSU if he de-commits. He is one fo the top Oline recruits in the country.

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b9Yxh
    Ohio State head coach Luke Fickell received bad news Tuesday evening when he learned five-star offensive tackle Kyle Kalis was de-committing from the Buckeyes.
  • WebFire
    centralbucksfan;810479 wrote:OSU Oline commit Kalis visiting UM this weekend. One of his good buddies recently committed to UM and has encouraged Kalis to visit. This would be a HUGE loss for OSU if he de-commits. He is one fo the top Oline recruits in the country.

    Day late.
  • WebFire
    Picture Kalis's girlfriend took of Wormley from either today or yesterday.

  • vball10set
    ^^^has he (Wormley) verballed yet? I always thought he was a lock to attend tsun, contrary to what some Buckeye fans here in Toledo thought
  • WebFire
    vball10set;810970 wrote:^^^has he (Wormley) verballed yet? I always thought he was a lock to attend tsun, contrary to what some Buckeye fans here in Toledo thought

    No he has not committed yet.
  • sportswizuhrd
    vball10set;810970 wrote:^^^has he (Wormley) verballed yet? I always thought he was a lock to attend tsun, contrary to what some Buckeye fans here in Toledo thought
    Who influences his decision more, Kenny Hayes or Kevin Koger? I think that could be a big factor. If I had to guess, I would say Hayes.
  • vball10set
    sportswizuhrd;812429 wrote:Who influences his decision more, Kenny Hayes or Kevin Koger? I think that could be a big factor. If I had to guess, I would say Hayes.

    Hayes indeed might, but I understand Wormley has some familial connection at tsun--Webbie, can you confirm this?
  • WebFire
    I haven't heard about a family connection, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. I hope it is!
  • dwccrew
    vball10set;810970 wrote:^^^has he (Wormley) verballed yet? I always thought he was a lock to attend tsun, contrary to what some Buckeye fans here in Toledo thought

    Let Wormley go to Michigan. Look at his dumpy frame, he will be a bust in college.
  • dat dude
    Wormley has been a lock to UM for some time now. It's just a matter of time. Wouldn't be surprised if Kalis commits tomorrow as well.
  • rmolin73
    dwccrew;812562 wrote:Let Wormley go to Michigan. Look at his dumpy frame, he will be a bust in college.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA you obviously haven't seen the kid in person.
  • vball10set
    rmolin73;812572 wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHA you obviously haven't seen the kid in person.

    THIS--the kid's a stud
  • WebFire
    dwccrew;812562 wrote:Let Wormley go to Michigan. Look at his dumpy frame, he will be a bust in college.
    I think his small shoulders make him seem that way. He does look dumpy in that photo I posted. But he is anything but dumpy.

    [video]http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/AMP-Chris-Wormley-NIKE-highlights-530185?NICK_NAME=webfire35&LEVEL=2&TIME=1308927321&SIG=0c3870ea404f4e0472fbbf918794fb87[/video]
  • WebFire
    lhslep134;805347 wrote:False. Oversigning by itself is more morally corrupt than anything Tressel did. It's one thing to lie to the NCAA. It's another thing to lie to kids and parents about their situation in a life decision as important as college.


    I'm not talking about legality in the NCAA "rule"book, I'm talking about morality.

    So lhslep, what do you have to say about this article?

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJV6WB1P2oLlT5MOCZ7xsXkLlsHQ?docId=5dc5900e4c1742f1abef3def18ab92e5

    Looks like Tressel and OSU play the little oversigning game too.
  • sleeper
    WebFire;814270 wrote:So lhslep, what do you have to say about this article?

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJV6WB1P2oLlT5MOCZ7xsXkLlsHQ?docId=5dc5900e4c1742f1abef3def18ab92e5

    Looks like Tressel and OSU play the little oversigning game too.
    "Our policy is as James Jackson stated: As long as a student-athlete maintains his/her academic standing, behaves appropriately, and handles his/her responsibilities, he or she will retain their scholarship. We have no proof of any conversation between he and former head coach Jim Tressel," he said in a statement to The Associated Press.
    Did you read the article?