5/7/11 More trouble for OSU

• vball10set

  WebFire;783411 wrote:I think people know exactly what he meant. Almost seems like they are trying to discredit everything by taking "everyone" literally. I mean, give me a break, did everyone think he actually meant every single person to don a Buckeye football uniform?

  
  Webbie--everyone means everyone...exaggeration often gets people in trouble, so if you don't literally mean everyone, then just say "some" or "most" or "a lot of". Truth be told, nobody needs to discredit Small, because he has zero credibility to begin with.
• WebFire

  vball10set;783455 wrote:Webbie--everyone means everyone...exaggeration often gets people in trouble, so if you don't literally mean everyone, then just say "some" or "most" or "a lot of". Truth be told, nobody needs to discredit Small, because he has zero credibility to begin with.

  
  Rest my case.
• vball10set

  WebFire;783458 wrote:Rest my case.

  yup
• WebFire

  And here we go. Remember the name Ed Martin.
  
  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ohiost-tattooinvestigation
• FatHobbit

  

  WebFire;783489 wrote:And here we go. Remember the name Ed Martin.
  
  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ohiost-tattooinvestigation

  
  Was anyone at Michigan aware of Ed Martin and what he was doing?
• WebFire

  FatHobbit;783499 wrote:Was anyone at Michigan aware of Ed Martin and what he was doing?

  
  Honestly, I don't know who knew what. It wasn't a secret that he helped kids by buying them shoes and clothes. That was his gig. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, though.
• WebFire

  Out of that whole article, this stuck out the most to me:
  

  The AP asked for Tressel's evaluations the past two years, but Ohio State spokesman Jim Lynch said those are done face to face between Tressel and Smith and there are no written records.

  That just seems odd.
• WebFire

  WebFire;783520 wrote:Out of that whole article, this stuck out the most to me:
  
  That just seems odd.

  Link to OSU's HR policy covering performance management: Link
  

  D. Review forms must be discussed and signed by the supervisor and employee. The employee must receive a copy
  of the form, and a copy must be retained in the employee’s personnel file. An employee’s signature indicates that
  the form has been reviewed and discussed with her or him. It does not imply agreement with the review.
  
  E. Each unit is responsible for developing a records retention schedule for its performance management system.
  Performance review information needs to be minimally retained for six years after the employee leaves the
  university.

  So, are they not following their own policy?
• DeyDurkie5

  

  web, do you like osu or michigan?
• sportswizuhrd

  WebFire;783553 wrote:Link to OSU's HR policy covering performance management: Link
  
  
  
  So, are they not following their own policy?

  
  Hahahaha. Good point.
• WebFire

  DeyDurkie5;783555 wrote:web, do you like osu or michigan?

  
  I think that should be obvious based on my avatar.
• WebFire

  Someone is lying here. According to Kiffin, the car salesman, it is the OSU compliance department.
  
  http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-12/osu-suspensions/story/car-dealer-osu-compliance-director-called-me-over-50-times
• WebFire

  Regarding the SI article. This Sports by Brooks guy doesn't really seem to have a clue.
  

  Sports by Brooks
  I've just learned that the George Dohrmann investigative piece about the Ohio St. football program has been added to the Sports Illustrated editorial rundown and is tenatively scheduled to be published on SI.com on Tuesday. That absolutely could change and I will continue to monitor and report what I learn. If nothing changes, expect to see the Dohrmann investigative piece on SI.com at noon eastern time on Tuesday.

• DeyDurkie5

  

  WebFire;783572 wrote:I think that should be obvious based on my avatar.

  
  then why are you so obsessed with osu?
• vball10set

  DeyDurkie5;783602 wrote:then why are you so obsessed with osu?

  
  LOL--even though I've come to respect a lot of what he/she offers, I've wondered about this myself--it's almost as if this whole situation gives him/her some sort of satisfaction...btw, IMO, as long as THE OSU continues to kick tsun's ass on the field, Webbie can post on this as long as he/she wants.
• WebFire

  DeyDurkie5;783602 wrote:then why are you so obsessed with osu?

  
  Because I live in Ohio surrounded by arrogant OSU fans, and it's my favorite team's rival. Durr.
  
  Why are OSU fans obsessed with Michigan?
  
  And, what are you bringing to the discussion?
• password

  

  Hookers, money, cars and maybe drugs will be the end of this whole disaster that has been cast on OSU by Tressel and Pryor. Smalls changes his story after all the negative comments made by players and realizes that he is no longer welcome anywhere, by any OSU fan and is told to change his story or things will get worse for him. I don't think that Tressel will be the only coach that gets outed for their involvement in the corrupt system that is about to be made public.
• Speedofsand

  

  vball10set;783455 wrote:Webbie--everyone means everyone...exaggeration often gets people in trouble, so if you don't literally mean everyone, then just say "some" or "most" or "a lot of". Truth be told, nobody needs to discredit Small, because he has zero credibility to begin with.

  
  I guess THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY professors don't educate students enough to know the difference between saying "everyone" and "some" or "most" or "a lot of".
  Or "Everybody" kills people..."
  
  Just like Gee, Smith, & Tressel said in Dec. they didn't educate players enough on compliance. Now after The Lantern article, the players knew very well, but only a few chose to ignore the rules.
  
  Some of you guys wearing scarlet & gray blinders must be getting dizzy from trying to spin this mess.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Most of us aren't spinning anything.
  
  We're just not gleefully accepting as fact everything that's being said.
  
  I'd say most of us are actually waiting for things to shake out so we can see what rules have ACTUALLY been broken (besides the one we already know) and then go from there.
  
  Just because we aren't joining in the feeding frenzy that all of you who want OSU to be guilty of EVERYTHING doesn't mean we have blinders on.
  
  Bias works both ways.
• Speedofsand

  

  correct Writer, that's why I said "Some of you guys".
  I'm not thrilled with the whole mess either. If Tressel, Smith, Archie, and others are proved to be involved in breaking rules or trying to cover it, its time to clean house. It won't be done until after we see what Luke can do this year. One thing is for sure, he will know how not to run a big time program.
• sportswizuhrd

  WebFire;783581 wrote:Someone is lying here. According to Kiffin, the car salesman, it is the OSU compliance department.
  
  http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-12/osu-suspensions/story/car-dealer-osu-compliance-director-called-me-over-50-times

  
  Kniffin....not Kiffin. First thing I thought of was why Lane Kiffin would know anything about this.
• WebFire

  sportswizuhrd;783783 wrote:Kniffin....not Kiffin. First thing I thought of was why Lane Kiffin would know anything about this.

  
  Haha. Thanks for the correction. Although, Kiffin probably knows plenty about lying.
• Big Gain

  WebFire;783829 wrote:Haha. Thanks for the correction. Although, Kiffin probably knows plenty about lying.

  Your welcome, thanks for the stupidity.
• Big Gain

  elbuckeye28;783370 wrote:Here is my take.
  
  The Lantern printed exactly what Small said. That being said, I think that Small's comments, much like Pryor's comments about Mike Vick, were probably the result of his inability to accurately convey what he truly meant. Now this doesn't excuse him for what he did at Ohio State and what he said in his interview with the Lantern, but I think his poor speaking skills probably enabled his words appear much more damaging than he truly meant.

  The people at the Lantern are more ignorant than Small. They actually believe such crap that EVERYONE was selling stuff and getting care deals, EVERYONE???? Do writers and editors at the Lantern think it's sound journalism to publish obvious exaggerations, untruths and LIES?? Did they bother to interview other players for confirmation that EVERYONE was doing it? I'd think they would be culpable and open for lawsuits by besmirching innocent individuals by printing what they knew was obvious bull shit.
  E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
• sportswizuhrd

  Big Gain;783836 wrote:Your welcome, thanks for the stupidity.

  No, thank you for the stupidity.