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5/7/11 More trouble for OSU

  • lhslep134
    FatHobbit;783164 wrote:IMHO, if Tressel handled this and put a stop to it he's not as guilty as the USC coach. (It's still an NCAA issue and he did lie about it, but I would like to think he isn't a cheater and he tried to stop it.) If he knew about it and did nothing, then he is more guilty than the USC coach, again IMHO, because he is the head coach.


    See I think you're right, but the timeframe sort of implies that he did the latter and not the former.
  • thedynasty1998
    Tressel can't be held accountable for everything that happens, but he certainly knew of the relationship with the car dealer. That was just far too obvious.
  • KnightRyder
    lhslep134;783150 wrote:Okay, you're admitting you're an idiot. Fine by me. You can't keep 24/7 tabs on 80 players. Now it's painfully obvious you don't have kids because you would understand this concept.

    according to you tressel doesnt keep tabs on anyone. and no i am admitting that you're a idiot.
  • KnightRyder
    enigmaax;783130 wrote:What is it that you think he should have known about? I mean, a lot of poor ass people have tattoos. What would give a person cause to think, "my quarterback seems to have a lot of tattoos, maybe he's selling shit to get them"?

    maybe the thought should have been " i sure have alot of players showing up with new tattoos they didnt have those when i recruited them, where does he get the money for those?" ink can be costly.
  • WebFire
    KnightRyder;783271 wrote:maybe the thought should have been " i sure have alot of players showing up with new tattoos they didnt have those when i recruited them, where does he get the money for those?" ink can be costly.

    This actually is not out of line. Not just at OSU, anywhere. When you hear these kids whine about having no money, and how poor their parents are, wouldn't you wonder where they get the money to get tats up and down both arms?
  • FatHobbit
    lhslep134;783208 wrote:See I think you're right, but the timeframe sort of implies that he did the latter and not the former.

    I honestly don't know what to believe anymore the story has changed so many times, but I thought all of the stuff they sold was from their freshman year? If it happened and Tressel put a stop to it then I don't think he's dirty. (He still broke the rule, but I can live with him accepting the punishment he's been given.)
  • lhslep134
    thedynasty1998;783219 wrote:Tressel can't be held accountable for everything that happens, but he certainly knew of the relationship with the car dealer. That was just far too obvious.

    100% correct.
  • lhslep134
    KnightRyder;783263 wrote:according to you tressel doesnt keep tabs on anyone. and no i am admitting that you're a idiot.

  • JerseyBuck
    Here is a great read from a former Buckeye who played with Ray Small. You're not going to see this on ESPN or Yahoo or anywhere else for that matter.

    http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=145&f=3154&t=7547644&sto=MS_99988611
  • thedynasty1998
    Well said.
  • JerseyBuck
    In shocking news of the day, Ray Small changes his story

    http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2011/05/27/story-ohio-state-football-ray-small-lantern-article.html?sid=102
  • thedynasty1998
    I still can't believe the Lantern published that story. It's owned by the University. How does that editor keep his job?
  • JerseyBuck
    thedynasty1998;783362 wrote:I still can't believe the Lantern published that story. It's owned by the University. How does that editor keep his job?

    Lantern says they recorded his confession. Ray says they twisted his words.

    Like I said yesterday, Ray is questionable himself, why of any players you'd publish his comments is beyond me.
  • elbuckeye28

    Here is my take.

    The Lantern printed exactly what Small said. That being said, I think that Small's comments, much like Pryor's comments about Mike Vick, were probably the result of his inability to accurately convey what he truly meant. Now this doesn't excuse him for what he did at Ohio State and what he said in his interview with the Lantern, but I think his poor speaking skills probably enabled his words appear much more damaging than he truly meant.
  • thedynasty1998
    I wonder what Gee and Smith think about the University ran Lantern.
  • JerseyBuck
    elbuckeye28;783370 wrote:Here is my take.

    The Lantern printed exactly what Small said. That being said, I think that Small's comments, much like Pryor's comments about Mike Vick, were probably the result of his inability to accurately convey what he truly meant. Now this doesn't excuse him for what he did at Ohio State and what he said in his interview with the Lantern, but I think his poor speaking skills probably enabled his words appear much more damaging than he truly meant.

    I agree and see it like this as well. Obviously "everyone" isn't doing it but his words were damaging.
  • elbuckeye28
    JerseyBuck;783385 wrote:I agree and see it like this as well. Obviously "everyone" isn't doing it but his words were damaging.

    Yeah they were damaging, but I think this will all blow over. I mean HBO ran that special on ex-Auburn players admitting to getting paid and nothing really has come of it, and this was far less damaging than those accusations.
  • WebFire
    JerseyBuck;783385 wrote:I agree and see it like this as well. Obviously "everyone" isn't doing it but his words were damaging.

    I think people know exactly what he meant. Almost seems like they are trying to discredit everything by taking "everyone" literally. I mean, give me a break, did everyone think he actually meant every single person to don a Buckeye football uniform?
  • FatHobbit
    The BMV investigated and found that 79 coaches are driving cars that were 'donated' by local car dealers. That is not a violation.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/26/ohio-state-cars.html?sid=101
  • JerseyBuck
    WebFire;783411 wrote:I think people know exactly what he meant. Almost seems like they are trying to discredit everything by taking "everyone" literally. I mean, give me a break, did everyone think he actually meant every single person to don a Buckeye football uniform?

    If you go to an opposing fan website, Yahoo and Dan Wetzell, etc, yes.
  • JerseyBuck
    FatHobbit;783416 wrote:The BMV investigated and found that 79 coaches are driving cars that were 'donated' by local car dealers. That is not a violation.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/26/ohio-state-cars.html?sid=101

    Of course it isn't. Coaches and the staff can get free or "donated" whatever they want.

    If a coach and a player walk into a restaurant, the very well paid coach gets a meal on the house, the player pays with their last dime.
  • thedynasty1998
    FatHobbit;783416 wrote:The BMV investigated and found that 79 coaches are driving cars that were 'donated' by local car dealers. That is not a violation.

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/26/ohio-state-cars.html?sid=101

    That's nothing new.
  • FatHobbit
    thedynasty1998;783429 wrote:That's nothing new.

    I hadn't heard it before. It might explain all the new cars Titus saw in the parking lot. (Maybe not, but it just might :) )
  • WebFire
    JerseyBuck;783423 wrote:If you go to an opposing fan website, Yahoo and Dan Wetzell, etc, yes.

    Former Buckeyes are opposing fans?
  • thedynasty1998
    FatHobbit;783431 wrote:I hadn't heard it before. It might explain all the new cars Titus saw in the parking lot. (Maybe not, but it just might :) )

    This is common practice at schools all over the country.

    I've seen players driving the Chargers as well. I've actually said it on here several times even prior to the Dispatch report.