Should ND coach Brian Kelly step down?

• rock_knutne

  LJ;714915 wrote:You really think that the University doesn't know who his direct boss was? :rolleyes:

  
  They do Sherlock but the POINT is we will never know.
• LJ

  

  rock_knutne;714942 wrote:They do Sherlock but the POINT is we will never know.

  
  
• killer_ewok

  

  dat dude;714924 wrote:And just some additional info for thought, for those saying its not BK's responsibility, he's the head coach, etc - the following is Tressel's quote before practice the day before the incident:
  
  
  
  The Buckeyes ultimately practiced indoors.

  
  That just proves that Tressel thought of it, not that he or Kelly are ultimately responsible for it.
• OneBuckeye

  

  Someone needs fired, because someone was in charge of the lifts and making the descision to use them.
• bigkahuna

  dat dude;714924 wrote:And just some additional info for thought, for those saying its not BK's responsibility, he's the head coach, etc - the following is Tressel's quote before practice the day before the incident:
  
  
  
  The Buckeyes ultimately practiced indoors.

  
  That also says the day before and not the day of. I've already posted that it'd be interesting to know when the wind advisory was announced to begin and expire as well as the communication between the camera guys and the AV director. To me, that information would bring a lot more insight then anything about Brian Kelly.
• LJ

  

  bigkahuna;715025 wrote:That also says the day before and not the day of. I've already posted that it'd be interesting to know when the wind advisory was announced to begin and expire as well as the communication between the camera guys and the AV director. To me, that information would bring a lot more insight then anything about Brian Kelly.

  
  If the wind advisory came out 5 minutes after they went up the lifts it is the responsibility of the direct supervisor to get them down. that part is pretty cut and dry. All that matters is that the wind was too high before he died.
• Pick6

  

  LJ;714915 wrote:You really think that the University doesn't know who his direct boss was? :rolleyes:

  
  +9999999999999999999999999999999999
• SportsAndLady

  

  rock_knutne;714941 wrote:Please.......look who's talking about dumb! You may the biggest fucking retard on this board!

  
  Haha rock's in "i'm a retard" denial mode.
• bigkahuna

  LJ;715028 wrote:If the wind advisory came out 5 minutes after they went up the lifts it is the responsibility of the direct supervisor to get them down. that part is pretty cut and dry. All that matters is that the wind was too high before he died.

  
  I still say that they need to investigate the film crew director or w/e his actual title is. Again, JMO, but I would assume that he would have some kind of contact with all of his crews. If he tried to contact Sullivan but couldn't reach him, then is he still liable? I don't know. I just find it hard to believe that NOBODY had contact with him (supervisor wise) around practice time (let's say 2-5 or w/e) given the weather circumstances that day.
• LJ

  

  bigkahuna;715088 wrote:I still say that they need to investigate the film crew director or w/e his actual title is. Again, JMO, but I would assume that he would have some kind of contact with all of his crews. If he tried to contact Sullivan but couldn't reach him, then is he still liable? I don't know. I just find it hard to believe that NOBODY had contact with him (supervisor wise) around practice time (let's say 2-5 or w/e) given the weather circumstances that day.

  
  There were other people on lifts as well. I am sure OSHA investigated if anyone was contacted and told to get down. I would assume that if they were and Sullivan couldn't be reached that OSHA would not have declared them negligent.
• bigkahuna

  Why can't this be like HS football where you have a coach or a player with a broken arm/ineligible do the filming for you? At least that way you'd know 100% that it's the head coach's responsibility.
• bigkahuna

  LJ;715091 wrote:There were other people on lifts as well. I am sure OSHA investigated if anyone was contacted and told to get down. I would assume that if they were and Sullivan couldn't be reached that OSHA would not have declared them negligent.

  
  I didn't read the report, was there anything in there about that?
• LJ

  

  bigkahuna;715095 wrote:I didn't read the report, was there anything in there about that?

  
  Yeah, it said they were negligent for not telling them to get down when winds were over 28 mph
• dat dude

  killer_ewok;714962 wrote:That just proves that Tressel thought of it, not that he or Kelly are ultimately responsible for it.

  
  I think it proves more than that.
• bigkahuna

  LJ;715097 wrote:Yeah, it said they were negligent for not telling them to get down when winds were over 28 mph

  
  they meaning the school and them meaning anyone on film crew regardless of height in the lift?
• LJ

  

  bigkahuna;715109 wrote:they meaning the school and them meaning anyone on film crew regardless of height in the lift?

  
  Yes
• rock_knutne

  SportsAndLady;715082 wrote:Haha rock's in "i'm a retard" denial mode.

  Ha, you wrote the book on being a retard.
• killer_ewok

  

  dat dude;715107 wrote:I think it proves more than that.

  
  There's a surprise. I'll bite, what more does it prove?
• SportsAndLady

  

  rock_knutne;715122 wrote:Ha, you wrote the book on being a retard.

  
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
• centralbucksfan

  Bottom line, Kelly was/is ULTIMATELY responsible. He is he head coach and runs the football program. That being said, it was an accident and he should NOT step down or lose his job. I think thats been pretty much decided already.
  This was one of those freak, tragic accidents where people learned a hard lesson and will now be more aware of situations like this.
• rock_knutne

  SportsAndLady;715200 wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  I know, the fact that you act like a retard is hysterical.
• sleeper

  

  dat dude;714921 wrote:There are many dumb posts in this thread (99% by Rock)

  i lol'd
  

  centralbucksfan;715274 wrote:Bottom line, Kelly was/is ULTIMATELY responsible. He is he head coach and runs the football program. That being said, it was an accident and he should NOT step down or lose his job. I think thats been pretty much decided already.
  This was one of those freak, tragic accidents where people learned a hard lesson and will now be more aware of situations like this.

  
  Notre Dame was ruled negligent, therefore it is not "an accident". Someone needs to lose their job, maybe BK, maybe someone else, but its a absolute joke how ND is handling this.
• killer_ewok

  

  sleeper;715448 wrote:i lol'd
  
  
  
  Notre Dame was ruled negligent, therefore it is not "an accident". Someone needs to lose their job, maybe BK, maybe someone else, but its a absolute joke how ND is handling this.

  
  So conducting an investigation is an absolute joke?
• karen lotz

  

  sleeper, what does the ND in the thread title stand for? Which forum is this? Why are you posting on it?
• sleeper

  

  killer_ewok;715450 wrote:So conducting an investigation is an absolute joke?

  An investigation? OHSA found someone negligent, how hard is it to find the direct boss of the camera crew? I bet he's on payroll somewhere, this is merely ND giving lip service to "ND takes FULL responsibility".
  

  karen lotz;715451 wrote:sleeper, what does the ND in the thread title stand for? Which forum is this? Why are you posting on it?

  It was edited in, you can't apply topics retroactively, you must have them in place at the time of the thread. Also, get a life.