Chris Perez to the Yanks for Taxeira

• DeyDurkie5

  

  LOL footwedge literally knows nothing.
• Footwedge

  Mooney44Cards;1173829 wrote:Yes, and as pnhasbeen pointed out, it was a trick question. You can't tell from batting average how valuable a player is. Slugging percentage is not a perfect stat either, but it is a hell of a lot more useful than batting average, because it doesn't treat all hits equally.

  I can't believe I'm having this conversation. Good thing there are new rules here on the chatter, or I'dv really light you up.
  
  You are the one that listed one stat...i.e. batting average...asking which is more valuable a 250 hitter or a 325 hitter. That's what you asked...and as it stands..only an inebriated person would ask.
  

  It's ok to admit that you know way less about baseball than everyone else in this thread. We'll respect you at least for being honest.

  LOL. As McEnroe would say...."you cannot be serious."
  
  
  Maybe you should PM Schlep134 and ask him which is better 250 or 325. He's a tad slow on his math skills...but even he will know the answer. Only on the chatter do you find this stuff. Mooney...thanks for providing the entertainment tonight. And...it's all free!
• hasbeen

  

  You responded to "Question for you Mr. Footwedge. Which player is more valuable, a guy hitting .320 or a guy hitting .250?"
  
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  Footwedge;1173770 wrote:Wut? Drunk post, mebbe?

  
  Then you are a smart ass when I tell you the obvious answer? That's a good way to put us young guys in line: when we're right, you just become a smart ass.
  
  You agree that this is a bad trade for the Indians. It's a terrible trade for the Yankees. This whole fucking idea is fucking stupid.
• hasbeen

  

  Footwedge;1173858 wrote:
  You are the one that listed one stat...i.e. batting average...asking which is more valuable a 250 hitter or a 325 hitter. That's what you asked...and as it stands..only an inebriated person would ask.
  

  Actually, post #14 was the first time the one stat...i.e. batting average...was brought up. Guess who said it?
  
  I'll give you a hint...it was you.
• Mooney44Cards

  

  Hey guys I don't understand these new stats! They must be wrong and useless!
• chicago510

  

  Footwedge;1173858 wrote:I can't believe I'm having this conversation. Good thing there are new rules here on the chatter, or I'dv really light you up.

  LOL
• Mooney44Cards

  

  Footwedge;1173858 wrote:I can't believe I'm having this conversation. Good thing there are new rules here on the chatter, or I'dv really light you up.
  

  Translation: I'm not really sure how to debate something without resorting to name-calling.
• Footwedge

  pnhasbeen;1173853 wrote:'10- 158 games, 33 HR, 108 RBI, .256 BA, .481 slugging
  '11- 156 games, 39 HR, 111 RBI, .248 BA, .494 slugging
  '12- 35 games, 5 HR, 19 RBI, .232 BA, .399 slugging
  '12 16 games, 0-1 record, 3.68, 12 saves
  
  Even though Texeria's BA has dropped the last couple years and he's had a shitty season thus far, he still has a greater value than a closer.

  Maybe so...maybe not. A young Perez vs. an old first baseman who's stats have remarkably declined is certainly subject for debate. Thus the thread I created. Like I've said 7 times or so...one would have to be an idiot in tasking a chance on Tex. Colletti agrees with me...not that that means much.
  
  Indian fans have learned a hard lesson with the Ubaldo trade. Doubt management screws up like that again.
• Footwedge

  Mooney44Cards;1173873 wrote:Translation: I'm not really sure how to debate something without resorting to name-calling.

  Have I called you any names? It's OK Moon...you've been badly pwned on your batting average nonsense. Tomorrow will be a better day for you. I'll say a little prayer on your behalf.
• hoops23

  

  So the Yanks come to you wanting to trade you a legit 1B who hits for power and drives in runs from both sides of the plate and is a gold glove fielder AND they're willing to eat most of his salary for a closer who is adequate at best and you're telling the Yanks to "eff off"..... Oh my.
• hasbeen

  

  Footwedge;1173879 wrote:Have I called you any names? It's OK Moon...you've been badly pwned on your batting average nonsense. Tomorrow will be a better day for you. I'll say a little prayer on your behalf.

  Again, the post he quoted you ignore. You would have been "name calling" if it wasn't for the new rules.
  
  And once again, you brought up the batting average nonsense.
  
  This whole thread is about a trade that won't happen and then you defend why it "could" happen and then come back and say it shouldn't happen.
• Mooney44Cards

  

  Footwedge;1173874 wrote:Maybe so...maybe not

  No.....there are literally quantifiable ways to determine how valuable a player is to a team. It's called WAR. Chris Perez's highest WAR of his career is lower than the lowest WAR of Teixeira's career. In fact, Tex has had two individual seasons with a higher WAR than Chris Perez's cumulative WAR for his entire career.
  
  Career WAR
  Chris Perez: 5
  Mark Teixeira: 41.8
• hoops23

  

  Footwedge;1173874 wrote:Maybe so...maybe not. A young Perez vs. an old first baseman who's stats have remarkably declined is certainly subject for debate. Thus the thread I created. Like I've said 7 times or so...one would have to be an idiot in tasking a chance on Tex. Colletti agrees with me...not that that means much.
  
  Indian fans have learned a hard lesson with the Ubaldo trade. Doubt management screws up like that again.

  Ubaldo has 4 wins this year. Pomeranz and White have 0.
  
  Which is more important? 4 wins, or 0?
• Footwedge

  pnhasbeen;1173865 wrote:Actually, post #14 was the first time the one stat...i.e. batting average...was brought up. Guess who said it?
  
  I'll give you a hint...it was you.

  Did I ask which was more valuable? A 250 hitter vs. a 325 hitter? LOL. The Chatter is a funny place to hang.
• hoops23

  

  Footwedge;1173886 wrote:Did I ask which was more valuable? A 250 hitter vs. a 325 hitter? LOL. The Chatter is a funny place to hang.

  What is more valuable? A pitcher with 4 wins or two pitchers with 0?
• Footwedge

  hoops23;1173883 wrote:Ubaldo has 4 wins this year. Pomeranz and White have 0.
  
  Which is more important? 4 wins, or 0?

  No offense Hoop....but I would be 5-2 with Ubaldo's run support. Let me know when your cousin Ubaldo breaks 5.00 in his ERA.
• hasbeen

  

  hoops23;1173887 wrote:What is more valuable? A pitcher with 4 wins or two pitchers with 0?

  2 > 1
  0 < 4
  2 >< 5
  so they are =
  
  /stupid exaggeration of awful logic
• hoops23

  

  Footwedge;1173891 wrote:No offense Hoop....but I would be 5-2 with Ubaldo's run support. Let me know when your cousin Ubaldo breaks 5.00 in his ERA.

  The Tribe has scored 4 runs or less in 5 of his 8 starts. Nice fail.
  
  Your boyfriends have a 4.70 and 6.75 ERA this year and are a combined 0-4.
• chicago510

  

  Footwedge;1173891 wrote:No offense Hoop....but I would be 5-2 with Ubaldo's run support. Let me know when your cousin Ubaldo breaks 5.00 in his ERA.

  Would you? I'm sure that the Yanks would trade Teixeira for you then. They need starting pitching.
• Footwedge

  Mooney44Cards;1173882 wrote:No.....there are literally quantifiable ways to determine how valuable a player is to a team. It's called WAR. Chris Perez's highest WAR of his career is lower than the lowest WAR of Teixeira's career. In fact, Tex has had two individual seasons with a higher WAR than Chris Perez's cumulative WAR for his entire career.
  
  Career WAR
  Chris Perez: 5
  Mark Teixeira: 41.8

  ZZZZzzzzzz..... [rubbing eyes now...a couple more yawns] Perez's days are in front of him... Tex's days are behind him. Not rocket science here Mooney.
• hoops23

  

  Why didn't we just trade Dan Wheeler for Tex instead of releasing him?
  
  Tribe FO is sooooo stupid.
• chicago510

  

  Footwedge;1173896 wrote:ZZZZzzzzzz..... [rubbing eyes now...a couple more yawns] Perez's days are in front of him... Tex's days are behind him. Not rocket science here Mooney.

  The BEST WAR that Perez has ever had was 2.5, the WORST that Teix has ever had was 2.7 his rookie year.
  
  Worst Teix > Best Perez
• Mooney44Cards

  

  No offense Footwedge, but literally everyone in this thread has not only disagreed with you, but basically laughed at you. You have made several idiotic claims that have been refuted with evidence as to why you are completely wrong. You have chosen to ignore those posts, or childishly laughed at people and threatening to "light them up" if it wasn't for new rules. You have provided ABSOLUTELY no proof why ANY reliever (plays in maybe ~60 games), let alone Chris Perez, is worth ANY 1B (plays in maybe ~150 games), let alone Mark Teixeira. You can laugh off sabermetrics all you want, but the stats have been developed with logic and reasoning, and every team has embraced them.....Billy Beane just started the trend. Your "LOLOL your opinion is so stupid I'm laughing at it look at me go LOLOLOL" schtick just reeks of having no clue how to discuss anything, let alone sports, like an adult.
• Footwedge

  hoops23;1173893 wrote:The Tribe has scored 4 runs or less in 5 of his 8 starts. Nice fail.
  
  Your boyfriends have a 4.70 and 6.75 ERA this year and are a combined 0-4.

  You don't want me to show you the runs per game average for your cousin do you? When's Ubaldo going to hit the kthe Ubaldo line?
  
  Some day, Mario Mendoza will have some company.
• hoops23

  

  Footwedge is only here to school all of us yungin's