What type of tipper are you?

• bigdaddy2003

  

  Rotinaj;1222912 wrote:Some people are just cheap.

  There is more to it though. I'm one of the most frugal people you will ever meet and even I tip pretty decent.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Glory Days;1222828 wrote:and if you want to complain about the pay or tips, go get a real job instead of a server job.

  You are a cop right?
• 2kool4skool

  

  Just to be clear, I do tip. Unless you kill my mother you're getting at least 15%, usually 20% or 25%.
  
  Thought the "I don't tip unless forced to" line would be extreme enough to be seen as a parody, but apparently there are multiple people here who actually ARE at that level of douchebaggery. So my apologies.
• Glory Days

  

  queencitybuckeye;1222852 wrote:A good server is every bit as skilled as what you do for a living.

  clearly that is why 16 year olds do this job.
• Glory Days

  

  DeyDurkie5;1222930 wrote:You are a cop right?

  correct. and no, i am not in a union if you are going down that route.
• Glory Days

  

  hasbeen;1222840 wrote: Set wage would probably cover all side work which includes stocking, prepping, end of shift cleaning. This includes where you sit and eat, where you pay, the restrooms, the service station, and the foyer.

  so the same things they do at Wendy's and McD's?
  

  hasbeen;1222844 wrote:It's pretty simple: the wage covers what the server does for the restaurant. The tip covers what the server does for the customer.

  ok, so why cant you just pay them like everyone else? if customers gets poor service, the free market will decide not to visit that establishment. if the manager is losing customers because of poor servers, they will be disciplined/fired.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Glory Days;1223084 wrote:correct. and no, i am not in a union if you are going down that route.

  naaw, not going down that route. Just know your food has surely been jizzed on throughout your "career" so I'm too concerned about your tipping habit
• I Wear Pants

  Glory Days;1223086 wrote:so the same things they do at Wendy's and McD's?
  
  
  
  ok, so why cant you just pay them like everyone else? if customers gets poor service, the free market will decide not to visit that establishment. if the manager is losing customers because of poor servers, they will be disciplined/fired.

  Funny coming from a dude in a massively unionized field.
  
  Edit: I see this was already addressed.
• Glory Days

  

  DeyDurkie5;1223088 wrote:naaw, not going down that route. Just know your food has surely been jizzed on throughout your "career" so I'm too concerned about your tipping habit

  haha thats why i dont eat out at most places.
• I Wear Pants

  We call the cops and give them any extra pizzas we have. Don't even jizz on them first either.
• Glory Days

  

  I Wear Pants;1223091 wrote:Funny coming from a dude in a massively unionized field.
  
  Edit: I see this was already addressed.

  either way, if citizens are not happy with the police service etc. they could vote the officials out of office and not pass taxes etc.
• Glory Days

  

  I Wear Pants;1223095 wrote:We call the cops and give them any extra pizzas we have. Don't even jizz on them first either.

  hmmmm so that really was sour cream on top?
• I Wear Pants

  Glory Days;1223097 wrote:hmmmm so that really was sour cream on top?

  Well we have no sour creme in our shop so no. I have no idea what that'd be. But seriously, we don't jizz on cops or anyone else's food.
• Tiger2003

  

  bigdaddy2003;1222476 wrote:I used to deliver pizza and I remember how irritated I would get when I would drive somewhere only to be told to keep the change from 11 bucks on a 10.95 order so I generally give 3 to 4 bucks on a 20 dollar order.

  
  That sucks about keep the change shit. We give $5 bucks for the pizza delivery. But we also live out in the country so it's kinda nice they come out here.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  Tiger2003;1223128 wrote:That sucks about keep the change shit. We give $5 bucks for the pizza delivery. But we also live out in the country so it's kinda nice they come out here.

  Yeah, it's a douche movie to tell someone to keep the change when it's a nickel. Just walking away would even be more of a cool move in that situation. I know what you mean about being glad they deliver to your house since I live in the country as well. I meet the delivery guy from the nearest pizza place about a mile from my house. It's kind of weird that they won't bring it the extra mile to my house but I figure it's not a big deal to hop in the vehicle and drive a mile.
• hasbeen

  

  Glory Days;1223086 wrote:so the same things they do at Wendy's and McD's?

  Sure. The person who holds down the fort at the counter at your local Wendy's doesn't have to do the same amount of work that a server does. Which is why those counter people are at a fixed rate and servers have the opportunity to make more money. The job is harder. If you can't see the difference between the person who holds down the fort at Wendy's and the server at a restaurant, I don't know what to tell you.
  
  

  Glory Days;1223086 wrote: ok, so why cant you just pay them like everyone else? if customers gets poor service, the free market will decide not to visit that establishment. if the manager is losing customers because of poor servers, they will be disciplined/fired.

  Because somebody, some years ago decided that the customer will DIRECTLY decide the value of the service they receive. Instead of being forced to pay a certain amount, you have the option to not pay for that service. Your tip is telling the server how much their service was worth. If I got stiffed and I knew I did a poor job, I understood because I didn't earn anything more. If I got stiffed and thought I did a great job, then fuck that customer. Better servers almost always make more money. I ALWAYS made more money than the other scrubs I worked with because I busted my balls EARNING that.
  
  If someone doesn't earn a tip, don't give it to them. There is no rule that says you HAVE to tip. But don't be an asshole and not tip just because you don't like the system. That system is what is in place and it's how certain people make their living.
• sportchampps

  I'll remember when you don't want something like Senate Bill 5 voted on that I can just vote no since I don't like the system that gives you benefits.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  queencitybuckeye;1222644 wrote:Because knowing that's how the server makes their living and screwing them is a bitch move. Don't like how restaurants structure their compensation, don't eat at restaurants.

  Ok...so you still haven't answered my question. I like to eat out, but it's not my fault someone takes a job expecting me to give them money outside of their salary. I think tipping is dumb. Do you tip everyone who does a service for you? Doubt it. So, what is an a valid reason to tip? "they gave exceptional service" What is so exceptional? Did they comp me anything? Did they bring me extra food? By exceptional you mean not leave me alone and ask me ten times how my meal is? Honestly, what is exceptional in peoples minds? What do servers do that is above and beyond their job parameters that they deserve 20% of my bill?
• queencitybuckeye

  Raw Dawgin' it;1223158 wrote:Ok...so you still haven't answered my question.

  Actually, I have, you just don't care for the answer. Would I be OK if the servers were paid a normal wage and there was no tipping? Yes, but that's not how it works, and I can't change it. From your responses, it appear you think everyone can just "get a better job" at will. If that was the case for you, congrats. Most of us at the beginning of our working lives have to take whatever jobs we can get, including sub-minimum wait jobs.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  queencitybuckeye;1223161 wrote:Actually, I have, you just don't care for the answer.

  Ha a good reason to tip "It's a bitch move if you don't." Sound reasoning right there, i can see why you're executive material.
• queencitybuckeye

  Raw Dawgin' it;1223164 wrote:Ha a good reason to tip "It's a bitch move if you don't." Sound reasoning right there, i can see why you're executive material.

  Not all of us can be fast-trackers like you.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  queencitybuckeye;1223168 wrote:Not all of us can be fast-trackers like you.

  It's cool - I'm glad you tip so you don't look like a bitch and not for an actual reason.
• queencitybuckeye

  Raw Dawgin' it;1223169 wrote:It's cool - I'm glad you tip so you don't look like a bitch and not for an actual reason.

  The actual reason is that the system is set up that way, and I'm not going to screw over the person at the bottom as some sort of protest.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  queencitybuckeye;1223171 wrote:The actual reason is that the system is set up that way, and I'm not going to screw over the person at the bottom as some sort of protest.

  Not my fault the system is set up that way and not my fault someone decided to work for the good will of others. I tip out of necessity as I've stated before. I don't know what exceptional service is, to me it sounds like "doing the job you were hired for."
• Rotinaj

  

  Lol you're such a cheap ass.