Is Being Gay "Normal?"

• j_crazy

  

  ernest_t_bass;1084435 wrote:Thinthick, this is a very honest question . Why do you put spaces after your periods ?

  
  To illustrate the super absorbancy expansion of tampax.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084416 wrote:Even though it doesn't respect the clear differences it is still exists and isn't going to change based on an adult being denying there basic right to enter into a contract.
  
  The two have nothing to do with each other and are not related in any way.

  of course sex and marriage have something to do with each other.
  "The age of consent doesn't respect the clear differences in young people's development, and as such 'punishes' the fast developers in order to protect the slow developing." 287# 1/5/12 on the discharged for being gay thread#
  To you sex with a "fast developing" child is ok, but not marriage to him\her.
  Then you would also say that marriage between a father and an 18 year old daughter was ok since she is old enough to make a contract.
  I am against both.
• isadore

  Thinthickred wrote:Whoever said not being normal was bad ?
  

  Thinthickred wrote:Being born with a defect is not normal

  
  

  Thinthickred wrote:I just cant understand how anybody could say being attracted to the same gender is normal

  Thinthickred wrote: Its a small minority of people that have this disorder . Yes I believe it is either a genetic disorder or a learned disorder .
  

  Thinthickred wrote:There is nothing normal about being gay

  Thinthickred wrote:I consider being gay an abnormality .

  
  May you could use some of the synonyms for abnormal: deviant, unnatural, abberant
  Whoever said being unnatural was bad, being aberrant was bad, being deviant was bad.
  Your attitude to gays is obvious.
  
• Skyhook79

  

  Thinthickbigred;1084423 wrote:Listen . I dont hate gays . Im not anti gay . I never said we should fix anything . I believe people should be able to do whatever they want to do behind closed doors . Unless its with a child . All I ever said was what I believe. I dont think being a homosexual is normal in a scientific manner . Normal being its not the norm . Its a small minority of people that have this disorder . Yes I believe it is either a genetic disorder or a learned disorder . I am not a medical or scientific expert . Im not a moral authority either . I am strongly against the far right wing nazi movement and FOX news media propaganda garbage if you must know . I am a liberal believe it or not. Gays dont bother me one bit . I dont care . I am mearly answering the question as to whether I think its normal . I think not . Like I have said before . Being born an albino is not normal . Being born with a defect is not normal . Understand were Im coming from . I dont propose any penalty for gay marriages or anything like that . I cannot stand the moral far right wing . I just cant understand how anybody could say being attracted to the same gender is normal . It is not normal .
  Diversity is a good thing . If you are gay ,I dont propose you think ill of yourself . Whoever said normal was a good word? Whoever said not being normal was bad ? I said niether .

  How do you feel about the far left wing nazi movement and the CNN,MSNBC,NBC,CBS,ABC news media propaganda garbage?
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  isadore;1084450 wrote:May you could use some of the synonyms for abnormal: deviant, unnatural, abberant
  Whoever said being unnatural was bad, being aberrant was bad, being deviant was bad.
  Your attitude to gays is obvious.
  

  He sure didn't, do you have any other way of arguing besides putting words in peoples mouths? In the 6 posts you quotes by thinthickred not one said being unnatural was bad. You just like to go to the the thesaurus post synonyms and then put words in someones mouth and imply they said something they didn't. You're a fucking troll.
• Con_Alma

  isadore;1084443 wrote:of course sex and marriage have something to do with each other.
  "The age of consent doesn't respect the clear differences in young people's development, and as such 'punishes' the fast developers in order to protect the slow developing." 287# 1/5/12 on the discharged for being gay thread#
  To you sex with a "fast developing" child is ok, but not marriage to him\her.
  Then you would also say that marriage between a father and an 18 year old daughter was ok since she is old enough to make a contract.
  I am against both.

  Sex with a fast developing child is not OK. You will never find a post where Isaid such a thing.
  
  I said the current age of consent aw doesn't distinguish between a faster mentally developing child . That doesnt mean sex with the child is "OK".
  
  I am well aware of you being against granting basic rights to all adults. You have been clear about that.
  
  Are you aware what a basic right is?
• isadore

  Raw Dawgin' it;1084462 wrote:He sure didn't, do you have any other way of arguing besides putting words in peoples mouths? In the 6 posts you quotes by thinthickred not one said being unnatural was bad. You just like to go to the the thesaurus post synonyms and then put words in someones mouth and imply they said something they didn't. You're a ****ing troll.

  abnormal has meaning when a person choose to use. He is trying to have it both ways, one side claiming not being anti gay, then throughout his posts attacking them and their natural life choice. And providing an argument for all those "rescuers" who falsely claim that gays have a choice. He is a bigot and Phelps jr. you are his enabler. Saying something unnatural is hardly a compliment, it is obviously derogatory and dehumanizes whoever the term is applied.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084476 wrote:Sex with a fast developing child is not OK. You will never find a post where Isaid such a thing.
  
  I said the current age of consent aw doesn't distinguish between a faster mentally developing child . That doesnt mean sex with the child is "OK".
  
  I am well aware of you being against granting basic rights to all adults. You have been clear about that.
  
  Are you aware what a basic right is?

  "The age of consent doesn't respect the clear differences in young people's development, and as such 'punishes' the fast developers in order to protect the slow developing." 287# 1/5/12 on the discharged for being gay thread" According to you the age of consent punishes "fast developing" children who can not have sex with adults.
  
  We have the basic right to vote in America but we set pre reqiuistes on those who can vote in the best interest of society. The incest limitation on the right to marriage is an example of a pre requiste that protects potential off spring and family members.
  So you support, endorse, are a proponent of fathers marrying their 18 year old daughters.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  isadore;1084484 wrote:abnormal has meaning when a person choose to use. He is trying to have it both ways, one side claiming not being anti gay, then throughout his posts attacking them and their natural life choice. And providing an argument for all those "rescuers" who falsely claim that gays have a choice. He is a bigot and Phelps jr. you are his enabler.

  this isn't even a point so i guess i'll put words in your mouth and guess you are trying to say "I'm a troll who picks out one word from an argument to use against that person and completely ignore the rest of what they say"
  
  I don't think piercing your nipples are normal, but i don't mind people who do it. I think two dudes having sex is weird and abnormal, but i don't mind people who do it. Doesn't make me a bigot.
  
  I'll wait for your troll response and see how you twist my words to make your argument.
• Con_Alma

  isadore;1084490 wrote:"The age of consent doesn't respect the clear differences in young people's development, and as such 'punishes' the fast developers in order to protect the slow developing." 287# 1/5/12 on the discharged for being gay thread" According to you the age of consent punishes "fast developing" children who can not have sex with adults.
  
  We have the basic right to vote in America but we set pre reqiuistes on those who can vote in the best interest of society. The incest limitation on the right to marriage is an example of a pre requiste that protects potential off spring and family members.
  So you support, endorse, are a proponent of fathers marrying their 18 year old daughters.

  It does punish them. That doesn't equate to me believing the age of consent law should be changed.
  
  I do not "endorse" anyone marrying anyone...not even heterosexual individuals. In fact I don't endorse the State having a say at all in who marries. It's basic right.
• isadore

  Raw Dawgin' it;1084501 wrote:this isn't even a point so i guess i'll put words in your mouth and guess you are trying to say "I'm a troll who picks out one word from an argument to use against that person and completely ignore the rest of what they say"
  
  I don't think piercing your nipples are normal, but i don't mind people who do it. I think two dudes having sex is weird and abnormal, but i don't mind people who do it. Doesn't make me a bigot.
  
  I'll wait for your troll response and see how you twist my words to make your argument.

  describing someone's behavior as "abormal and weird" is an attempt to marginalize them. It is that attitude that has lead to the sodomy laws that inflicted America until very recently that imprisoned gays for their natural sexual habits because the were "abnormal and weird". It is the attitude found among believers in eugenics that gay acts were "abnormal and weird" lead to gays in Dachau and Auschwitz head to the showers.
• Skyhook79

  

  
• Con_Alma

  Isadore thinks he shouldbe able to determine what is abnormal and weird.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084506 wrote:It does punish them. That doesn't equate to me believing the age of consent law should be changed.
  
  I do not "endorse" anyone marrying anyone...not even heterosexual individuals. In fact I don't endorse the State having a say at all in who marries. It's basic right.

  So to you not allowing children to have sex with adults is punishing the children. I would disagree with that. And I say the government should prevent fathers from marrying their 18 year old daughters. You would disagree with that.
• isadore

  Skyhook79;1084515 wrote:

  as opposed to your continuing gay bashing.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  isadore;1084513 wrote:gays in Dachau and Auschwitz head to the showers.

  oh so you're a nazi?
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084516 wrote:Isadore thinks he shouldbe able to determine what is abnormal and weird.

  I am sorry you don't see the marriage of a father to his 18 year old daughter as something to be prevented. Do you have daughters?
• Con_Alma

  isadore;1084523 wrote:So to you not allowing children to have sex with adults is punishing the children. I would disagree with that. And I say the government should prevent fathers from marrying their 18 year old daughters. You would disagree with that.

  You conclusion jumping is awful. I don't agree with Fathers marrying their 18 year old daughters .
  
  Even more important, than that is who decides whats abnormal and weird when it comes to basic rights.
• isadore

  Raw Dawgin' it;1084526 wrote:oh so you're a nazi?

  no you are putting the pink triangle on their chest.
• Con_Alma

  isadore;1084527 wrote:I am sorry you don't see the marriage of a father to his 18 year old daughter as something to be prevented. Do you have daughters?

  I have a daughter.
  
  Why would you be sorry? I am sorry you think that you should be able to restrict a basic right from polygamists.
  
  Weird and abnormal behavior is subjective and dependent on societal culture. If you label something as a basic human right you can't restrict it from someone less you risk it being restricted from you.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084529 wrote:You conclusion jumping is awful. I don't agree with Fathers marrying their 18 year old daughters .
  
  Even more important, than that is who decides whats abnormal and weird when it comes to basic rights.

  voting is a basic right, there are certain limits on it. You see denying sex to children as punished for the children and you want to allow fathers to marry their 18 year old daughters, wow.
• Con_Alma

  isadore;1084536 wrote:voting is a basic right, there are certain limits on it. You see denying sex to children as punished for the children and you want to allow fathers to marry their 18 year old daughters, wow.

  Weird and abnormal behavior is subjective and dependent on societal culture. If you label something as a basic human right you can't restrict it from someone less you risk it being restricted from you.
  
  You are a hypocrite. You want basic rights only for certain people.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084535 wrote:I have a daughter.
  
  Why would you be sorry? I am sorry you think that you should be able to restrict a basic right from polygamists.
  
  Weird and abnormal behavior is subjective and dependent on societal culture. If you label something as a basic human right you can't restrict it from someone less you risk it being restricted from you.

  Why dont you show me where I said I ever wanted to restrict the rights of polygamists? I think the world would be a better place for your daughter if she was not in the pool of potential mates for you.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  isadore;1084533 wrote:putting the pink triangle on their chest.

  so now you think we should have them wear a pink triangle so we know who the gays are? Talk about nazi propaganda.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1084539 wrote:Weird and abnormal behavior is subjective and dependent on societal culture. If you label something as a basic human right you can't restrict it from someone less you risk it being restricted from you.
  
  You are a hypocrite. You want basic rights only for certain people.

  as you write children not being allowed to have sex with adults punished the children. Gay or polygamist relations do not on their face harm others, incestuous relationships harm off spring and harm family members. We limit the basic right to vote, we can stop incesuous marriage.