Is Being Gay "Normal?"

• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  I Wear Pants;1080648 wrote: This is inarguable.

  Exactly. Two sides cannot argue against each others firm beliefs, I never said you were wrong, but I could be right too.
• I Wear Pants

  Bio-Hazzzzard;1080652 wrote:Exactly. Two sides cannot argue against each others firm beliefs, I never said you were wrong, but I could be right too.

  No, you were saying that science and evolution require faith (at least that's what I thought you were saying) which is entirely incorrect.
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  I Wear Pants;1080660 wrote:No, you were saying that science and evolution require faith (at least that's what I thought you were saying) which is entirely incorrect.

  Yes they do, they are not proven
• I Wear Pants

  Bio-Hazzzzard;1080662 wrote:Yes they do, they are not proven

  What is not proven?
• I Wear Pants

  
  
  Purple is science, pink is faith. Very different concepts.
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  I Wear Pants;1080667 wrote:What is not proven?

  I would be more than happy to read your theory if you would send me a proven link. In the end we still believe in what we believe in.
• I Wear Pants

  Bio-Hazzzzard;1080672 wrote:I would be more than happy to read your theory if you would send me a proven link. In the end we still believe in what we believe in.

  No I meant what is the topic you find to be unproven? I'm not sure if I agree or disagree yet I just don't know what we're talking about. Evolution or the creation of the universe or what?
• majorspark

  

  I Wear Pants;1080668 wrote:Purple is science, pink is faith. Very different concepts.

  I believe that puzzle just fell together over a few bazillion years. Those bunnies had nothing to do with it. Why should believe in this fairy tail?
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  I Wear Pants;1080674 wrote:No I meant what is the topic you find to be unproven? I'm not sure if I agree or disagree yet I just don't know what we're talking about. Evolution or the creation of the universe or what?

  Creation
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  I Wear Pants;1080668 wrote:
  
  Purple is science, pink is faith. Very different concepts.

  I'm thirty four years beyond kindergarten
• I Wear Pants

  Bio-Hazzzzard;1080677 wrote:Creation

  Big bang theory is the one that I feel has the most premise. Of course we're always learning new things in regards to that and I'm not a scientist nor a really active hobbyist in that field so I don't know all the technicalities of the currently accepted theory in that regards to make a bunch of rebuttles or anything.
  
  I do know that simply because we can't answer something as a fact scientifically at the current time does not in any way make god or any diety more likely.
  
  There are plenty of people who believe the scientific theories who also believe that a diety is behind at least the beginning of it. I struggle with that because I then ask "where did god come from?" and I can't even fathom an answer. All I can base my understanding on is that nearly everything that people used religion to discredit science when science didn't have a complete understanding of it has since been understood. Things like tides, why the sun and moon rise and fall, rotation of the planets, etc, etc. I believe this will continue though I don't know if we'll ever be able to completely understand some things because of distance issues.
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  I Wear Pants;1080686 wrote:Big bang theory is the one that I feel has the most premise. Of course we're always learning new things in regards to that and I'm not a scientist nor a really active hobbyist in that field so I don't know all the technicalities of the currently accepted theory in that regards to make a bunch of rebuttles or anything.
  
  I do know that simply because we can't answer something as a fact scientifically at the current time does not in any way make god or any diety more likely.
  
  There are plenty of people who believe the scientific theories who also believe that a diety is behind at least the beginning of it. I struggle with that because I then ask "where did god come from?" and I can't even fathom an answer. All I can base my understanding on is that nearly everything that people used religion to discredit science when science didn't have a complete understanding of it has since been understood. Things like tides, why the sun and moon rise and fall, rotation of the planets, etc, etc. I believe this will continue though I don't know if we'll ever be able to completely understand some things because of distance issues.

  I understand.
  
  I don't discredit science in any way because I believe god created science
• I Wear Pants

  Bio-Hazzzzard;1080689 wrote:I understand.
  
  I don't discredit science in any way because I believe god created science

  And that's fair, we obviously disagree on that point but it's not something that I feel the need to militantly attack you for because frankly I don't care. You believe in god, I don't, not a big deal since you aren't damning me to hell or anything like that (that will come after you talk to me more I'm sure!).
• Con_Alma

  isadore;1080495 wrote:part of your continuing effort to deny gays the basic right of state sanctioned marriage.

  ...or allow all people who want to be able to have it without gaining permission. Why are you willing to permit the State to deny anyone such a right?
• Ytowngirlinfla

  

  Just my 2 cents. I don't think being gay is normal at all. I also think in most cases it's a choice to be gay or bi. Depending on things that happen in your life help make this choice for you.
• isadore

  Con_Alma;1080722 wrote:...or allow all people who want to be able to have it without gaining permission. Why are you willing to permit the State to deny anyone such a right?

  Group marriage, let them
  but I believe there should be limits on the ability of adults to marry minors, people mentally unable to give consent, and for incestous couples to marry. If I interfered with your life plans, sorry.
• Tiernan

  ^^^
  Wow I had you pegged for a real hardline anti "Don't Ask Don't Tell" type. I'm glad the nations' military brass saw the reasoning to allow everyone the opportunity to serve their country...maybe they need to do some sexual orientation education to prevent service people like yourself from being so prejudice.
• Ytowngirlinfla

  

  Tiernan;1080791 wrote:^^^
  Wow I had you pegged for a real hardline anti "Don't Ask Don't Tell" type. I'm glad the nations' military brass saw the reasoning to allow everyone the opportunity to serve their country...maybe they need to do some sexual orientation education to prevent service people like yourself from being so prejudice.

  Where did I say I was prejudice? Just because I don't think it's normal doesn't mean I hate gay people by any means. I personally don't care if your gay or straight doesn't mean I have to think it's normal. Thanks for putting words in my mouth though.
• Skyhook79

  

  Tiernan;1080791 wrote:^^^
  Wow I had you pegged for a real hardline anti "Don't Ask Don't Tell" type. I'm glad the nations' military brass saw the reasoning to allow everyone the opportunity to serve their country...maybe they need to do some sexual orientation education to prevent service people like yourself from being so prejudice.

  The question was is being gay normal. In the US there are between 1-2% of the population that is gay. That makes it by definition not normal. Just because someone thinks it's not normal they do not automatically hate gay people or are they prejudice.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  Skyhook79;1080915 wrote:Just because someone thinks it's not normal they do not automatically hate gay people or are they prejudice.

  Have you read isadores posts? lol
• Skyhook79

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1080919 wrote:Have you read isadores posts? lol

  They can be exceptions to most things.
• Ytowngirlinfla

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1080919 wrote:Have you read isadores posts? lol

  Missed the post.
• dwccrew

  

  I Wear Pants;1080648 wrote:Confidence or trust in a person or thing not based on evidence has absolutely nothing to do with science. This is inarguable.

  Just shut up and have faith in th magical mystery.
• I Wear Pants

  Ytowngirlinfla;1080723 wrote:Just my 2 cents. I don't think being gay is normal at all. I also think in most cases it's a choice to be gay or bi. Depending on things that happen in your life help make this choice for you.

  I don't intend for this to have an attacking tone or be condescending, but what are you basing this opinion on if I might ask?
• Con_Alma

  I Wear Pants;1080674 wrote:No I meant what is the topic you find to be unproven? ...

  Is the math proven in the science being used?