The National Anthem

• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  I really think these protests show what's great about this country. There are lots of places in the world where people wouldn't even dream of showing any sign of protest toward the state. The fact that anyone here can do it if they see fit is awesome. I don't have to agree with their reason or method. Unless they are hurting someone in the process, I think protest shows the best part of our freedom. In my opinion, our troops don't fight for a flag, they fight for our nation and each other. Our nation is all of us giving each other the freedom to live our lives and pursue our dreams. Since it is made up of human beings, there are imperfections about it. If one of us sees fit to protest these imperfections, then that shows the whole thing is working as designed.
  
  I am not saying people who disagree with the NFL players are Nazis, my caveat before I make my next point.
  
  I read a lot about the Third Reich. I find many facets of the story fascinating. The most fascinating thing to me is how a sophisticated nation found itself pulled into a totalitarian system. Imagining life there is always a way for me to feel gratitude for what we have here. The thing that was crushed more than anything else was individual thought. You simply did not disagree with the regime under any circumstances. One way of showing that you towed the line was by giving all of the public respect to the flag, the marches, the songs, etc. Failure to give the salute to the flag was synonymous with crime.
  
  We are not Nazi Germany. My point though is that our great freedoms require us to tolerate descent within our society. We can vehemently disagree. But those showing descent are not "unpatriotic" in my opinion. They are exercising the very rights our country was established to protect.
  
  USA USA USA
• Automatik

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1881574 wrote:I saw that, what a fucking joke.

  GQ did it so people would talk about it, and it worked.
  
  Since when did anyone give a flying fuck about GQ?
• QuakerOats

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1881655 wrote:We are not Nazi Germany. My point though is that our great freedoms require us to tolerate descent within our society. We can vehemently disagree. But those showing descent are not "unpatriotic" in my opinion. They are exercising the very rights our country was established to protect.
  
  USA USA USA

  
  
  It's dissent, not descent.
• friendfromlowry

  Automatik;1881657 wrote:GQ did it so people would talk about it, and it worked.
  
  Since when did anyone give a flying fuck about GQ?

  This.
  
  I don't care for Britt McHenry but she had a great point on Twitter yesterday. JJ Watt raised like >$30 million for hurricane Harvey relief, and some guy who kneeled LAST year is man of this year?
• Automatik

  

  Citizen of the Year for a magazine that also features Justin Bieber on the cover regularly and tells you what boat shoes are "in this season."
  
  Again, who gives a flying fuck.
• QuakerOats

  Automatik;1881664 wrote:Citizen of the Year for a magazine that also features Justin Bieber on the cover regularly and tells you what boat shoes are "in this season."
  
  Again, who gives a flying fuck.

  
  We find common ground
• Spock

  

  Automatik;1881664 wrote:Citizen of the Year for a magazine that also features Justin Bieber on the cover regularly and tells you what boat shoes are "in this season."
  
  Again, who gives a flying fuck.

  Lol
• fish82

  

  Automatik;1881657 wrote:GQ did it so people would talk about it, and it worked.
  
  Since when did anyone give a flying fuck about GQ?

  Indeed. Does anyone here know anybody with a Y chromosome that even reads it?
• Spock

  

  fish82;1881836 wrote:Indeed. Does anyone here know anybody with a Y chromosome that even reads it?

  or at least 46 of them?
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  QuakerOats;1881659 wrote:It's dissent, not descent.

  Thanks. Why not call it "descent" dissent as opposed to "indecent" dissent.
• QuakerOats

  indecent dissent could work
• O-Trap

  

  What about an indecent descent into dissent?
• QuakerOats

  Could work.
  
  Obviously the NFL is in descent over all this.
• O-Trap

  

  QuakerOats;1881931 wrote:Could work.
  
  Obviously the NFL is in descent over all this.

  No, remember ... We're ignoring the NFL, so no need to talk about them.
• QuakerOats

  We can certainly talk about the NFL and in particular the ill-mannered, ignorant, and disrespectful players; we just will not watch or listen to any games, or support them in any way. Nothing has changed. And the 5 hours of yard work Sunday, without interruption, was definitely positive.
• O-Trap

  

  QuakerOats;1881948 wrote:We can certainly talk about the NFL and in particular the ill-mannered, ignorant, and disrespectful players; we just will not watch or listen to any games, or support them in any way. Nothing has changed. And the 5 hours of yard work Sunday, without interruption, was definitely positive.

  Big if true.
• QuakerOats

  A Baltimore police officer was pronounced dead Thursday after being shot Wednesday. The manhunt for the killer continues.
  
  More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/16/baltimore-police-officer-in-grave-condition-after-being-shot-suspect-sought.html
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Will the Ravens be taking a knee Sunday for this injustice?
• iclfan2

  

  QuakerOats;1881955 wrote:A Baltimore police officer was pronounced dead Thursday after being shot Wednesday. The manhunt for the killer continues.

  Dang. That city sucks. Remember when the mayor let them riot?
• QuakerOats

  http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/11/20/herschel-walker-takes-stand-against-national-anthem-protests.html
  
  
  Thanks Herschel.
  
  
  
  Another good Sunday without NFL action: another 3 hours of yard work, and getting the house ready for Thanksgiving festivities.
• gut

  LMAO....99% of America has moved on from this, and QO is still posting in a thread about the NFL about how he doesn't care about the NFL.
• QuakerOats

  Obviously you are quite wrong about the 99%.