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Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

  • like_that
    Is there any doubt that Trump's team leaked the tax returns to cuck MSNBC? Maddow looks like a clown now. If Trump is good at one thing, he is good at pwning the media. It's pathetic how they fall for his shit all the time.

    Also, it was only a 2005 return, but further proof that Bernie is a phony. I can't believe that guy is still relevant.
  • Heretic
    like_that;1841847 wrote:Is there any doubt that Trump's team leaked the tax returns to cuck MSNBC? Maddow looks like a clown now. If Trump is good at one thing, he is good at pwning the media. It's pathetic how they fall for his shit all the time.

    Also, it was only a 2005 return, but further proof that Bernie is a phony. I can't believe that guy is still relevant.
    As long as there are college kids whose entire political knowledge is based on one poly sci class where they spent more time staring at some chick's tits from a couple rows over than actually paying attention, Bernie will still be relevant!

    Much like how Trump is relevant because of how a large section of our country looks at reality TV as the peak of culture in our society.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    like_that;1841847 wrote:Is there any doubt that Trump's team leaked the tax returns to cuck MSNBC? Maddow looks like a clown now. If Trump is good at one thing, he is good at pwning the media. It's pathetic how they fall for his shit all the time.

    Also, it was only a 2005 return, but further proof that Bernie is a phony. I can't believe that guy is still relevant.
    That's how I viewed it as well. I was like oh it's 2005..so not relevant to today....
    And Trump is the master at schooling the media, throwing shit out and letting them chase after it.
  • gut
    ptown_trojans_1;1841879 wrote: And Trump is the master at schooling the media, throwing shit out and letting them chase after it.
    Not sure I'd go that far.....This is low-hanging fruit given how irrational and unhinged the liberal media is right now.

    But Trump is a compulsive liar and a bully - I don't think a media used to much more professionalism has figured out how to respond. Although, if they sink to his level they will lose.
  • fish82
    ptown_trojans_1;1841845 wrote:Congrats to him.
    Now, release all the other years...
    Why? He already debunked the "he doesn't pay any taxes" talking point...with prejudice I might add.

    Nothing really left for him to prove at this point. He's better served by letting the idiots chase the "links to Russia in the returns" meme and continue looking stupid.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    gut;1841886 wrote:Not sure I'd go that far.....This is low-hanging fruit given how irrational and unhinged the liberal media is right now.

    But Trump is a compulsive liar and a bully - I don't think a media used to much more professionalism has figured out how to respond. Although, if they sink to his level they will lose.
    Yeah, let me rephrase. Trump is great at tweeting and having some in the dumb, talking points media, suddenly rush to what he means and why he tweeted it. He also is great at throwing one line statements that are partially or half truths and suddenly it is reported that's what the administration as a whole thinks. The wire tapping, voter fraud, and all the sad! tweets are examples.
    fish82;1841938 wrote:Why? He already debunked the "he doesn't pay any taxes" talking point...with prejudice I might add.

    Nothing really left for him to prove at this point. He's better served by letting the idiots chase the "links to Russia in the returns" meme and continue looking stupid.
    No it doesn't. It is one year, 2005. One data point. Proves nothing.
  • gut
    fish82;1841938 wrote:Why? He already debunked the "he doesn't pay any taxes" talking point...with prejudice I might add.
    I'm waiting for someone to pick-up on the fact that $150M in income doesn't seem like much for a guy who claimed to be worth $10B. $150M in income would imply something like $1.5B in real estate assets (unlevered). Of course, we don't know what other investments he had, but other capital gains would only lower the former number.

    I've always been of the opinion the reason he doesn't release his tax returns is he doesn't want people to know what he's actually worth (and estimates in the $3-$4B range could be high).
  • fish82
    ptown_trojans_1;1841952 wrote: No it doesn't. It is one year, 2005. One data point. Proves nothing.
    He only needs the one. You people have claimed for 12 months that he "doesn't pay any taxes." You've been debunked with prejudice.

    If you all aren't smart enough to just take the L and drop it, don't blame me.
  • fish82
    gut;1841953 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to pick-up on the fact that $150M in income doesn't seem like much for a guy who claimed to be worth $10B. $150M in income would imply something like $1.5B in real estate assets (unlevered). Of course, we don't know what other investments he had, but other capital gains would only lower the former number.

    I've always been of the opinion the reason he doesn't release his tax returns is he doesn't want people to know what he's actually worth (and estimates in the $3-$4B range could be high).
    That's a reasonable assumption. That, and I'm sure that while nothing illegal would be found, there would be plenty of deductions that the democrats would be butthurt over.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    gut;1841953 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to pick-up on the fact that $150M in income doesn't seem like much for a guy who claimed to be worth $10B. $150M in income would imply something like $1.5B in real estate assets (unlevered). Of course, we don't know what other investments he had, but other capital gains would only lower the former number.

    I've always been of the opinion the reason he doesn't release his tax returns is he doesn't want people to know what he's actually worth     (and estimates in the $3-$4B range could be high).
    I fall in that bucket too. He is a known to stretch the truth, so in fact his actual worth may be below what he says it is.
    fish82;1841954 wrote:He only needs the one. You people have claimed for 12 months that he "doesn't pay any taxes." You've been debunked with prejudice.

    If you all aren't smart enough to just take the L and drop it, don't blame me.
    What do you mean you people?

    I actually don't think he has any ties to Russia. I just think it is in the best interest of the public officials to release tax returns and be as transparent as possible when it comes to any potential conflict of interest or areas that could be exploited.
    I don't care about his 2005 tax return. I care about his 2015 and 2016 tax return.
  • fish82
    ptown_trojans_1;1841958 wrote: What do you mean you people?
    You know who you are. ;)
    ptown_trojans_1;1841958 wrote:I actually don't think he has any ties to Russia. I just think it is in the best interest of the public officials to release tax returns and be as transparent as possible when it comes to any potential conflict of interest or areas that could be exploited.
    I don't disagree, but the fact remains (as I stated above) that Trump's returns would be unlike any previously released byt a POTUS candidate...while I seriously doubt there are "conflicts of interest or areas that could be exploited," I'm sure that there would be no shortage of stuff that the democrats would cry about.
    ptown_trojans_1;1841958 wrote:I don't care about his 2005 tax return. I care about his 2015 and 2016 tax return.
    That's silly. Why? What leads you to believe they'd be any different?

    The question on the table was "we need to see his tax returns, so we can throw a fit about how little he pays." (Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but let's not pretend that wasn't the desired outcome.)

    He just shut that down. Asking for 2015/2016 just looks petty at this point. Brian Fallon has the right idea...abandon this silliness and focus on the dumb healthcare replacement.
  • gut
    fish82;1841954 wrote:He only needs the one. You people have claimed for 12 months that he "doesn't pay any taxes." You've been debunked with prejudice.

    If you all aren't smart enough to just take the L and drop it, don't blame me.
    Yeah, but 1 year could grossly overstate what his actual effective rate is....especially a single return from over a decade ago.

    I don't care that much. It seems to be mostly fodder for partisan press to bitch about effective rates, deductions/loopholes, how much they give to charity, etc.. None of that has much to do with their qualification to be POTUS.

    Same with Bernie Sanders. I don't care. You're not a hypocrite for taking an allowed deduction you think should be eliminated Nobody does any differently. Maybe you want to take that savings and give it to charity, or family.
  • fish82
    gut;1841993 wrote:Yeah, but 1 year could grossly overstate what his actual effective rate is....especially a single return from over a decade ago.

    I don't care that much. It seems to be mostly fodder for partisan press to bitch about effective rates, deductions/loopholes, how much they give to charity, etc.. None of that has much to do with their qualification to be POTUS.

    Same with Bernie Sanders. I don't care. You're not a hypocrite for taking an allowed deduction you think should be eliminated Nobody does any differently. Maybe you want to take that savings and give it to charity, or family.
    I agree...I'm sure he didn't choose 2005 by accident, and there are probably several years that he didn't pay 25%. I'd be willing to wager that he's in the 16-20% range most years, though.
  • isadore
    Hail Trump
    and now our great leader manages to insult our closest ally with a lie
  • QuakerOats
    I didn't know we had any allies left after the last 8 years, unless you're counting Iran et.al...
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1842989 wrote:I didn't know we had any allies left after the last 8 years, unless you're counting Iran et.al...
    Nah man, just Russia now, amirite?
    Seriously, what a dumb comment.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
    Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
    Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.

    Bids are due end of March and they hope for Awards by May/ June to start.

    Your tax dollars at work folks.
    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c0cce0b2ef8d297b22dc251ea14c60d1&tab=core&tabmode=list&=
    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=cff7de3dac2790e71966a823b73ec024&_cview=1
  • gut
    ptown_trojans_1;1842994 wrote:Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
    Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
    Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.
    But why are you dismissing the massive amounts of tourist dollars that will flow in to see such a "great, beautiful wall"? :RpS_w00t:
  • like_that
    ptown_trojans_1;1842994 wrote:Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
    Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
    Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.

    Bids are due end of March and they hope for Awards by May/ June to start.

    Your tax dollars at work folks.
    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c0cce0b2ef8d297b22dc251ea14c60d1&tab=core&tabmode=list&=
    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=cff7de3dac2790e71966a823b73ec024&_cview=1
    lol, nobody is going to read this shit.
  • QuakerOats
    ptown_trojans_1;1842994 wrote:Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
    Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
    Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.

    Bids are due end of March and they hope for Awards by May/ June to start.

    Your tax dollars at work folks.
    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c0cce0b2ef8d297b22dc251ea14c60d1&tab=core&tabmode=list&=
    https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=cff7de3dac2790e71966a823b73ec024&_cview=1


    Let's build bridges not walls
    Love trumps hate
    Kumbaya




    Or, we could adhere to the U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1843067 wrote:Let's build bridges not walls
    Love trumps hate
    Kumbaya




    Or, we could adhere to the U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4.
    Actually, I would like to spend that money on better roads, dams, deeper harbors, bridges, and fixing our D grade infrastructure.
    Give me better infrastructure instead of the wall.
  • Devils Advocate
    [video]http://iwastesomuchtime.com/this_is_a_wall__17317[/video]
  • like_that
    ptown_trojans_1;1843071 wrote:Actually, I would like to spend that money on better roads, dams, deeper harbors, bridges, and fixing our D grade infrastructure.
    Give me better infrastructure instead of the wall.
    Crazy concept that has been overlooked for a couple decades now.
  • jmog
    Devils Advocate;1843072 wrote:[video]http://iwastesomuchtime.com/this_is_a_wall__17317[/video]
    Funny thing about that, is that most people I have seen online that want that wall built stronger also comment that Churches should be taxed...in other words they only want the wall to be a one way wall.
  • gut
    ptown_trojans_1;1843071 wrote:Actually, I would like to spend that money on better roads, dams, deeper harbors, bridges, and fixing our D grade infrastructure.
    Give me better infrastructure instead of the wall.
    Interestingly enough, I feel like we just spent a trillion dollars not long ago that, somehow, managed to address none of that.