Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I
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sleeperThere's about zero chance that HRC runs again. She lost to Trump. Donald Trump.
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QuakerOatssleeper;1827139 wrote:There's about zero chance that HRC runs again. She lost to Trump. Donald Trump.
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QuakerOatsernest_t_bass;1827109 wrote:If she runs, what will crack me up the most is how her campaign will change, only to grab the most votes. Those who were once deplorables will now be targeted for votes, etc. Can't wait.
When the 'deplorables' vote for dems they are "hard-working families", when they vote for Trump they are "uneducated whites".
Reality and truth eventually catch up to subterfuge, obfuscation, lies and identity politics. -
CenterBHSFan
Well... they kept Pelosi around in leadership. These people are stuck on stupid.like_that;1827111 wrote:-Do the Dems even want the Clintons around anymore? -
gut
Thankfully Reid retired. Those two are two of the worst, most damaging politicians we've had in my lifetime. I've never met either, but I assume they are both deplorable people.CenterBHSFan;1827160 wrote:Well... they kept Pelosi around in leadership. These people are stuck on stupid. -
majorspark
Pelosi is dense. Reid is the worst. A grade A asshole. Schumer will not be much of an improvement.gut;1827162 wrote:Thankfully Reid retired. Those two are two of the worst, most damaging politicians we've had in my lifetime. I've never met either, but I assume they are both deplorable people. -
O-Traplike_that;1827111 wrote:Are the Dems that dumb to rig another primary for her? I say there is a very small chance she runs, but it also wouldn't shock me, because her ego has no limitation on how low can it go. The better questions:
-Assuming the DNC doesn't play any favorites again, could Hillary even win the primary? I have a hard time seeing her defeat Warren, Booker, or Sanders. It also wouldn't shock me if the DNC played favorites again, because deep down I don't think they want their party to turn into the socialist party.
-Her health was questionable this election, will her health be better in 4 years?
-Will she even have any $$ in her war chest? Sounds like the Clinton Foundation has already seen a significant drop in donations. She couldn't even beat Trump when she out spent him by a massive amount.
-Do the Dems even want the Clintons around anymore?
Overall, Hillary running again would be a win for the GOP. There obviously wasn't enough enthusiasm for Hillary this election, it will be even worse if she is the candidate in 2020. Not only that, but if she were the candidate she would prevent the few bright spots the Dems have from running.fish82;1827120 wrote:Quite.
She did lose, but there are a couple reasons I think she might.sleeper;1827139 wrote:There's about zero chance that HRC runs again. She lost to Trump. Donald Trump.
1. IDGAF about this whole recount nonsense, but a lot of people seem to. When the election season starts rolling around again, don't you think it would be pretty easy to revisit the idea that she beat Donald Trump in the popular vote?
2. The DNC did seem to be creaming themselves at the notion of being the party of "firsts." I could certainly see them still wanting to put the first female president into office.
3. You can bet that, after the upset of this past election, and with all the hurt feelings, need for safe spaces, and outraged media personalities, there will be a significant uptick in the push to get people out to vote. I think a portion of the people who would have voted for Clinton may have gotten lulled to sleep by the narrative of a slam dunk win.
I'm not saying she'll run for sure. And I'm not necessarily saying she'll win if she does. But I'm saying I can see the story line for its plausibility. -
CenterBHSFanBut the fact of the matter is that Hillary has been backhanded in the mouth. Twice.
I don't think she's that much of an auto-masochist. -
O-Trap
Twice?CenterBHSFan;1827173 wrote:But the fact of the matter is that Hillary has been backhanded in the mouth. Twice.
I don't think she's that much of an auto-masochist.
I think she would be willing if she thinks she can win. -
sleeper
She lost to Obama in the primary despite being the heavy favorite going in.O-Trap;1827177 wrote:Twice?
I think she would be willing if she thinks she can win.
She lost to Donald Trump in the election despite being the heavy favorite going in.
What makes you think something is going to change in the next 4 years? People don't like Hillary; no chance the DNC puts her up again. -
Belly35
she lost the Country already better off and has spoken ... The Dems just want to divided the country even more.. The Bitch lost ....... Dems lost if you want hope and change quite crying and move forward , working to better yourself, party politics and learn what real America wants....O-Trap;1827177 wrote:Twice?
I think she would be willing if she thinks she can win. -
Heretic
Words typed by someone who spent the last eight years crying. Lol.Belly35;1827181 wrote:she lost the Country already better off and has spoken ... The Dems just want to divided the country even more.. The Bitch lost ....... Dems lost if you want hope and change quite crying and move forward , working to better yourself, party politics and learn what real America wants.... -
O-Trap
I didn't saying I thought things would. I only said it would appear that things can.sleeper;1827180 wrote:She lost to Obama in the primary despite being the heavy favorite going in.
She lost to Donald Trump in the election despite being the heavy favorite going in.
What makes you think something is going to change in the next 4 years? People don't like Hillary; no chance the DNC puts her up again.
We went from Obama to Trump. And as I said, have you heard all the outrage over the election results? If the outrage from the results of this election could fuel the next one, I certainly can see things changing. Not from people switching, though I'm sure that might happen, too. But from more people being compelled to come out, because it won't necessarily be seen as a slam dunk.
I honestly wonder if the fact that she was such a heavy favorite hurt her. Might have compelled more people to think their vote for her wasn't needed.
The country already being better off seems odd. Granted, markets can react to future events, but Trump isn't in office and hasn't done anything as of yet.Belly35;1827181 wrote:she lost the Country already better off and has spoken ... The Dems just want to divided the country even more.. The Bitch lost ....... Dems lost if you want hope and change quite crying and move forward , working to better yourself, party politics and learn what real America wants....
And whether or not you have that brand of advice for those who voted for Clinton, that may not be what they perceive as possible. I can't imagine that would be relevant to the discussion of whether or not Clinton might try to run again. -
Belly35
There's no crying involved I didn't accept his policy didn't accept his excuses fed up with the blaming I moved on I worked prosper and supported my party and did what was best for my family and my country no crying involved hard workHeretic;1827182 wrote:Words typed by someone who spent the last eight years crying. Lol. -
Belly35
If you get out in the real world talk to the real people in business youll find out that it's no longer what I can do now that protect my business and protect my ass but it's more about what I can do for the future looking forward there's a much positive attitude that's what makes America and its people greatO-Trap;1827197 wrote:I didn't saying I thought things would. I only said it would appear that things can.
We went from Obama to Trump. And as I said, have you heard all the outrage over the election results? If the outrage from the results of this election could fuel the next one, I certainly can see things changing. Not from people switching, though I'm sure that might happen, too. But from more people being compelled to come out, because it won't necessarily be seen as a slam dunk.
I honestly wonder if the fact that she was such a heavy favorite hurt her. Might have compelled more people to think their vote for her wasn't needed.
The country already being better off seems odd. Granted, markets can react to future events, but Trump isn't in office and hasn't done anything as of yet.
And whether or not you have that brand of advice for those who voted for Clinton, that may not be what they perceive as possible. I can't imagine that would be relevant to the discussion of whether or not Clinton might try to run again. -
O-Trap
The drastic distinction you suggest would indicate that the greatness of America is helpless against who is in office.Belly35;1827207 wrote:If you get out in the real world talk to the real people in business youll find out that it's no longer what I can do now that protect my business and protect my ass but it's more about what I can do for the future looking forward there's a much positive attitude that's what makes America and its people great
I would submit that this is not true. Moreover, I speak with people all over the United States regarding the future of their business on a daily basis. -
gutThe Dems will run Kanye/Kim in 2020....vbook it.
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O-Trap
Reps for the lulz.gut;1827249 wrote:The Dems will run Kanye/Kim in 2020....vbook it. -
superman
There is a far greater chance of that than them ever running a straight white male again.gut;1827249 wrote:The Dems will run Kanye/Kim in 2020....vbook it. -
fish82
Sadly, there's probably a grain of truth in this.superman;1827256 wrote:There is a far greater chance of that than them ever running a straight white male again. -
BoatShoes
Did you reAd some of this shit they said about Tim Ryan? My God!fish82;1827259 wrote:Sadly, there's probably a grain of truth in this. -
gut
"dago red wine" lmfaoBoatShoes;1827305 wrote:Did you reAd some of this shit they said about Tim Ryan? My God! -
iclfan2Can someone post what they said? I DGAF about that party in general, but tearing down someone on the inside is good stuff. I used to see that dude standing off the highway with a vote Tim Ryan sign. He's at least not some POS silver spoon California freak.
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Belly35
Good dago red is had to find anymore. When I was 9 years old grandpa would have a "taste test" day with his home made dago red .... My first not so memorable day, my mom was pissed ... It was a tradition from that day forward..for 15 years tall glass of dago red ...gut;1827308 wrote:"dago red wine" lmfao -
CenterBHSFaniclfan2;1827313 wrote:Can someone post what they said? I DGAF about that party in general, but tearing down someone on the inside is good stuff. I used to see that dude standing off the highway with a vote Tim Ryan sign. He's at least not some POS silver spoon California freak.
Good ole MSNBC/Chris Matthews. Here ya go:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/442675/watch-democrat-tim-ryan-uses-ethnic-slur-gets-called-out-live-tv