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Simplest reason poor are poor

  • Con_Alma
    isadore;1585404 wrote:when you continue it for generations, it becomes an obligation
    by doing it, they prevented the obvious alternative, a single payer plan

    It only became an obligation when the Affordable Care Act made it mandatory by law. Businesses had the ability to stop it at any time prior to that.
  • rrfan
    isadore;1585405 wrote:maybe we can follow your philosophy, and just let them starve and decrease the population, Oh and save you a few bucks.
    you forgot to put gosh...
  • isadore
    rrfan;1585542 wrote:you forgot to put gosh...
    I was so shocked by your hatred of the poor, I thought gosh would be inappropriate.
  • rrfan
    isadore;1585585 wrote:I was so shocked by your hatred of the poor, I thought gosh would be inappropriate.
    I don't hate anybody...I do dislike lazy very much. Not all poor are Lazy and some just need some help...however many are lazy
  • isadore
    rrfan;1585621 wrote:I don't hate anybody...I do dislike lazy very much. Not all poor are Lazy and some just need some help...however many are lazy
    and so in your view, they and theirs should suffer. hunger can be such a great motivator especially in the very young.
  • WebFire
    isadore;1585877 wrote:and so in your view, they and theirs should suffer. hunger can be such a great motivator especially in the very young.
    Why shouldn't the lazy suffer?
  • isadore
    WebFire;1585885 wrote:Why shouldn't the lazy suffer?
    by definition a sadist enjoys the suffering of others, in this case some of the poor and their families.
  • Belly35
    No needs to suffer. Clean up the fraud within the system, correct the records, applicants re-apply for entitlement support, establish limits time requirements quotes, track down dead beat fathers, abusive multi pregnant women, parents that adanded their kids to grandparents, habitual drug users and criminals offender get them out of the entitlement programs, establish a program system that rewards for achievement and decreases entitlement for improper behavior and criminal actions. The object of entitlement support should be to create a useful and prosperous individual with better structure for the next generation. Not a system of dependency
  • isadore
    "decreases entitlement for improper behavior" now there is an open ended example of ambiguity.
  • believer
    isadore;1585905 wrote:"decreases entitlement for improper behavior" now there is an open ended example of ambiguity.
    And you have a propensity for cherry picking the truth to discredit.
  • isadore
    to find the arsenic hidden in the mush
  • WebFire
    isadore;1585888 wrote:by definition a sadist enjoys the suffering of others, in this case some of the poor and their families.
    So in your society there is no reward for hard work, and no consequence for laziness. You can take that crap somewhere else.
  • majorspark
    isadore;1585888 wrote:by definition a sadist enjoys the suffering of others, in this case some of the poor and their families.
    He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich. Proverbs 10:4
    The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute. Proverbs 12:24
  • isadore
    WebFire;1585933 wrote:So in your society there is no reward for hard work, and no consequence for laziness. You can take that crap somewhere else.
    gosh a ruddies having the basic food, clothing, shelter and healthcare is a far cry from the life style of the top 1%
  • WebFire
    isadore;1586036 wrote:gosh a ruddies having the basic food, clothing, shelter and healthcare is a far cry from the life style of the top 1%

    Gosh a ruddies, no shit.
  • isadore
    WebFire;1586047 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, no shit.
    golly that is right I think our country should feed, cloth, house and provide medical care for those in need and you don't.
  • WebFire
    isadore;1586065 wrote:golly that is right I think our country should feed, cloth, house and provide medical care for those in need and you don't.
    That's not even close to what I said. Why don't you address my actual statement?
  • isadore
    gosh you want some poor people to go hungry, homeless without medical care.
  • WebFire
    isadore;1586089 wrote:gosh you want some poor people to go hungry, homeless without medical care.
    So you have no response other than to make up stuff?
  • believer
    WebFire;1586092 wrote:So you have no response other than to make up stuff?
    You're racist :RpS_w00t:
  • isadore
    WebFire;1586092 wrote:So you have no response other than to make up stuff?
    obviously "you can't handle the truth."
  • Belly35
    isadore;1586065 wrote:golly that is right I think our country should feed, cloth, house and provide medical care for those in need and you don't.
    . What made them so dependent on being needy? Why is it that many poor and poverty individual become prosperous responsible citizens but a majority continue the path of poverty, dependency and strain the fibre of society.

    They remain needy ( with exceptions of the handcap, ill and mentally challenge) because they are trapped in a system that keeps then down, comfortable with receiving little for doing nothing, no incentive of achievement and most of all a generations of learned behavior not to proper but to blame.
  • isadore
    Belly35;1586130 wrote:. What made them so dependent on being needy? Why is it that many poor and poverty individual become prosperous responsible citizens but a majority continue the path of poverty, dependency and strain the fibre of society.

    They remain needy ( with exceptions of the handcap, ill and mentally challenge) because they are trapped in a system that keeps then down, comfortable with receiving little for doing nothing, no incentive of achievement and most of all a generations of learned behavior not to proper but to blame.
    gosh now if we just starved them a little bit, that would motivate those families.

    If you want to motivate Free Post Secondary Education
    [LEFT]"If someone at the bottom graduated from college, there was an 86 percent chance they would jump up at least one fifth on the income ladder. They also had a 53 percent chance of jumping up two levels to the middle fifth of income. This is almost a complete flipping of the chances people have without a college degree."
    Read more at http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865590331/Getting-unstuck-Why-some-people-get-out-of-poverty-and-others-dont.html?pg=all#77HIXlSMXz80QhPX.99
    Read more at http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865590331/Getting-unstuck-Why-some-people-get-out-of-poverty-and-others-dont.html?pg=all#77HIXlSMXz80QhPX.99

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  • WebFire
    isadore;1586158 wrote:gosh now if we just starved them a little bit, that would motivate those families.

    If you want to motivate Free Post Secondary Education
    [LEFT]"If someone at the bottom graduated from college, there was an 86 percent chance they would jump up at least one fifth on the income ladder. They also had a 53 percent chance of jumping up two levels to the middle fifth of income. This is almost a complete flipping of the chances people have without a college degree."
    Read more at http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865590331/Getting-unstuck-Why-some-people-get-out-of-poverty-and-others-dont.html?pg=all#77HIXlSMXz80QhPX.99
    Read more at http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865590331/Getting-unstuck-Why-some-people-get-out-of-poverty-and-others-dont.html?pg=all#77HIXlSMXz80QhPX.99

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    You should still have to qualify, even if it's free. Can't just sent everyone to college. Economies don't support it.
  • isadore
    WebFire;1586269 wrote:You should still have to qualify, even if it's free. Can't just sent everyone to college. Economies don't support it.
    no some would go to free post secondary vocational school