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Can we just shut the government down already?

  • queencitybuckeye
    like_that;1510494 wrote:LOL if you think that's what got him elected and re elected.
    He was elected on not being "W". Turns out that was a lie.
  • WebFire
    This just came across my Facebook newsfeed. Barf.

    Welcome, Obamacare. I'm glad you're here!
    I know someone whose private health insurance costs (shitty insurance at that) went from $1,300 a month to $400 a month- as of today. AND she's on the Gold Plan now. Triple the quality for a third of the price!
  • Belly35
    Can we get Michelle Obama staff cut ... now
  • gut
    fish82;1510425 wrote:That's kinda how Harry got it passed in the first place. Reconciliation?
    Oh the irony...
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    gov't shutdown = no traffic : thumbup:
  • Glory Days
    Belly35;1510404 wrote:.45 3000 round
    .380 1000 round
    9mm 2000 rounds

    I maybe buying a AR15 and 16 Gauge w/ ammo (1000 rounds each) from a private individual who needs the money...

    I'm good...... thanks
    And all your veteran needs are taken care of....consideration they wont be 100% operational.
  • gut
    Give it week, and then Obama will be able to claim another $20B or so in deficit reduction :)
  • sleeper
    WebFire;1510499 wrote:This just came across my Facebook newsfeed. Barf.

    Welcome, Obamacare. I'm glad you're here!
    I know someone whose private health insurance costs (shitty insurance at that) went from $1,300 a month to $400 a month- as of today. AND she's on the Gold Plan now. Triple the quality for a third of the price!
    So this person isn't a male in his twenties.
  • QuakerOats
    Great day -- sun came up, blue skies, all 'essential' birds chirping; equity markets are up nicely, and taxpayers will ultimately save a few billion a day. Carry on.
  • WebFire
    QuakerOats;1510646 wrote:Great day -- sun came up, blue skies, all 'essential' birds chirping; equity markets are up nicely, and taxpayers will ultimately save a few billion a day. Carry on.
    Except that shutdowns cost money.
  • O-Trap
    queencitybuckeye;1510495 wrote:The reality is that the Republicans aren't afraid of Obamacare being a disaster, they're afraid of it not being a disaster.
    Eh, I think they're concerned there won't be outrage over it, and people will get used to it ... think the principle of heating up a frog in a frying pan.

    I'm not speaking to the actual quality of it (though if the website today has been any indication, they're off to a rip-roaring start), but of the perceived quality and reception by the Tea Kettle.
    queencitybuckeye;1510497 wrote:He was elected on not being "W". Turns out that was a lie.
    There's a Maury meme in here, somewhere.
    WebFire;1510648 wrote:Except that shutdowns cost money.
    As in, it costs what the federal employees would have made, and subsequently put back into the economy? As in, all that money they have?

    Or is there something else to which you were referring?
  • LJ
    WebFire;1510499 wrote:This just came across my Facebook newsfeed. Barf.

    Welcome, Obamacare. I'm glad you're here!
    I know someone whose private health insurance costs (shitty insurance at that) went from $1,300 a month to $400 a month- as of today. AND she's on the Gold Plan now. Triple the quality for a third of the price!
    My parent's went from $1900 per month to $550 per month total for the same coverage. I welcome the exchange with open arms. There are plenty of parts of Obamacare that no one should have issue with
  • LJ
    O-Trap;1510675 wrote:Eh, I think they're concerned there won't be outrage over it, and people will get used to it ... think the principle of heating up a frog in a frying pan.

    I'm not speaking to the actual quality of it (though if the website today has been any indication, they're off to a rip-roaring start), but of the perceived quality and reception by the Tea Kettle.



    There's a Maury meme in here, somewhere.



    As in, it costs what the federal employees would have made, and subsequently put back into the economy? As in, all that money they have?

    Or is there something else to which you were referring?
    It's gonna cost a shit ton in OT because everyone I know who works for the .gov is still gonna have the same deadlines when they get back to work.
  • QuakerOats
    WebFire;1510648 wrote:Except that shutdowns cost money.

    Only in the minds of those confined within the beltway. In the real world, when you shut something down - a factory, or an office - your costs go down. But in Washington costs go up??? Too funny. Next.
  • O-Trap
    I'm curious ...

    Who would have trusted a government comprised of George W. Bush and a Republican supermajority in Congress to legislate over one's healthcare in this manner?
  • O-Trap
    LJ;1510680 wrote:It's gonna cost a shit ton in OT because everyone I know who works for the .gov is still gonna have the same deadlines when they get back to work.
    That's still an option, though, and not a compulsion.

    If there was a mandate that no OT would be worked, then the deadlines would either be moved or be missed. Obviously, some deadlines carry more gravitas than others, but I'd submit that, at this point, cutting or minimizing cost ... pretty extremely ... would carry even more than most deadlines.
  • LJ
    O-Trap;1510683 wrote:That's still an option, though, and not a compulsion.

    If there was a mandate that no OT would be worked, then the deadlines would either be moved or be missed. Obviously, some deadlines carry more gravitas than others, but I'd submit that, at this point, cutting or minimizing cost ... pretty extremely ... would carry even more than most deadlines.
    Sure, the deadlines on some can be missed, but would you be one of the crowd to come out and say "geez, the DOD can't even get their fiscal year end reporting done on time!"
  • QuakerOats
    LJ;1510679 wrote:My parent's went from $1900 per month to $550 per month total for the same coverage. I welcome the exchange with open arms. There are plenty of parts of Obamacare that no one should have issue with

    Except all the other people who are being FORCED to pony up to pay for said reduction.
  • gut
    LJ;1510680 wrote:It's gonna cost a shit ton in OT because everyone I know who works for the .gov is still gonna have the same deadlines when they get back to work.
    Yeah, because govt employees are so overworked.

    Get an honest 37 hour work week out of them and not OT need :)
  • LJ
    gut;1510689 wrote:Yeah, because govt employees are so overworked.

    Get an honest 37 hour work week out of them and not OT need :)
    Most DFAS employees work a good 50 hours per week as it is. FYE they are in the 60's typically.
  • QuakerOats
    O-Trap;1510683 wrote:That's still an option, though, and not a compulsion.

    If there was a mandate that no OT would be worked, then the deadlines would either be moved or be missed. Obviously, some deadlines carry more gravitas than others, but I'd submit that, at this point, cutting or minimizing cost ... pretty extremely ... would carry even more than most deadlines.

    Or, maybe work a little harder for a few days to catch up .............. novel concept.
  • I Wear Pants
    The last shutdown cost us a few billion.
  • WebFire
    QuakerOats;1510687 wrote:Except all the other people who are being FORCED to pony up to pay for said reduction.
    This. Spread the wealth. Who is paying for the cost reduction?
  • QuakerOats
    I Wear Pants;1510692 wrote:The last shutdown cost us a few billion.


    Ergo, they should've let the panda cam stay on for the bleeding hearts.


    Mind numbing.
  • WebFire
    The Clinton shutdown was estimated to cost $1.5B. You think turning out the lights saves that much money? Everyone (for the most part) still gets paid.