Election Day 2012

• believer

  

  WebFire;1316284 wrote:I see a map like that and would think a dominating win for W. But it wasn't. Just seems skewed. Maybe it's not. W and BO both won popular votes in those years. Though not by much. Just seems like the electoral isn't doing it's job well when you see maps like that.

  ding ding ding
  
  We have a winner!
• dazedconfused

  

  SportsAndLady;1315640 wrote:

  ha! they still have yet to declare a winner for florida. that state is such a mess when it comes to elections
• WebFire

  believer;1316307 wrote:ding ding ding
  
  We have a winner!

  I think it needs tweaked. Some sort of electoral at the state level. Something to split the electoral votes up. An almost 50/50 state shouldn't go all to one candidate. That is not a true voice for that state.
• believer

  

  WebFire;1316311 wrote:I think it needs tweaked. Some sort of electoral at the state level. Something to split the electoral votes up. An almost 50/50 state shouldn't go all to one candidate. That is not a true voice for that state.

  Agreed. Or get rid of it altogether and give the individual voter true electoral power.
• gut

  I don't think the maps posted here tell any sort of story. Dirt doesn't vote, people do.
  
  
  Forgive me if I don't get the explanation precisely right, but this shows the country weighted by population and which way the voters went. The majority of the country is reddish-purple, which is something north of 50% for repubs. But the big blue areas, probably 55-60%+ for D, control a bunch of electoral votes. That's a problem. But I'd like to see the electoral votes overlaid and maybe it looks more even.
  
  Popular vote still has its problems, too. I don't think people should be ignored and their vote diminished for choosing to live in the 99%+ of the country without highrises.
  
  An uninformed electorate is far and away the biggest problem. Would be nice if the 4th estate could properly educate voters, but they care about ratings now.
• rmolin73

  

  The crying continues I see.
• O-Trap

  

  rmolin73;1317073 wrote:The crying continues I see.

  I believe you're supposed to say it like this:
  
  "QQ"
• QuakerOats

  http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/11/08/upside-down-flag-protests-over-election-sparking-controversy/
  
  
  Any you read some of the comments at the bottom and some things really smell about this election.
• Heretic

  

  QuakerOats;1319188 wrote:http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/11/08/upside-down-flag-protests-over-election-sparking-controversy/
  
  
  Any you read some of the comments at the bottom and some things really smell about this election.

  Your lack of basic dignity?
• BoatShoes

  WebFire;1316284 wrote:I see a map like that and would think a dominating win for W. But it wasn't. Just seems skewed. Maybe it's not. W and BO both won popular votes in those years. Though not by much. Just seems like the electoral isn't doing it's job well when you see maps like that.

  Nobody lives in the red parts. If it was based on population the democrat machine would turn out people in New York, California and Illinois and Republicans would never have a chance.
• BoatShoes

  WebFire;1316311 wrote:I think it needs tweaked. Some sort of electoral at the state level. Something to split the electoral votes up. An almost 50/50 state shouldn't go all to one candidate. That is not a true voice for that state.

  Sounds to me like you're asking for proportional representation...which makes sense as those are the only systems that result in multi-party systems.
• BoatShoes

  QuakerOats;1319188 wrote:http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/11/08/upside-down-flag-protests-over-election-sparking-controversy/
  
  
  Any you read some of the comments at the bottom and some things really smell about this election.

  Guess that's why Romney didn't win....Big.....LOL.
• WebFire

  BoatShoes;1319224 wrote:Nobody lives in the red parts. If it was based on population the democrat machine would turn out people in New York, California and Illinois and Republicans would never have a chance.

  Oh, sort of like 2012?
• BoatShoes

  WebFire;1319261 wrote:Oh, sort of like 2012?

  Republicans/Conservative leaning party have only won the popular vote once since 1988 and it's only getting worse. Also, that's within an electoral college system wherein turnout efforts aren't focused on the populous liberal states. The electoral college, the Senate and gerrymandered congressional districts are really the only thing keeping the conservative point of view in the ball game at this point as far as majorities go.
  
  I'm telling you that the last thing you would want is an election that turns almost entirely on democrats getting out the vote in New York, Illinois and California. The most populous state in the country just went super-majority democrat.
  
  **Should also note that the one time Republicans did win the popular vote was basically a "Khaki Election" as two wars had just gotten underway.
  
  Not looking good on the popular vote front in my humble opinion.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  A friend just told me that there were something like 58 districts in Philadelphia that didn't have 1 vote for Romney. That is sad.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1319188 wrote:http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/11/08/upside-down-flag-protests-over-election-sparking-controversy/
  
  
  Any you read some of the comments at the bottom and some things really smell about this election.

  What that sound? Oh, it is the sound of Quaker really reaching for anything to try and rationalize that the President is still Obama.
• majorspark

  

  bigdaddy2003;1319276 wrote:A friend just told me that there were something like 58 districts in Philadelphia that didn't have 1 vote for Romney. That is sad.

  Tinhorn 3rd world dictators can't even generate those kind of numbers.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  gut;1316362 wrote:I don't think the maps posted here tell any sort of story. Dirt doesn't vote, people do.
  
  
  Forgive me if I don't get the explanation precisely right, but this shows the country weighted by population and which way the voters went. The majority of the country is reddish-purple, which is something north of 50% for repubs. But the big blue areas, probably 55-60%+ for D, control a bunch of electoral votes. That's a problem. But I'd like to see the electoral votes overlaid and maybe it looks more even.
  
  Popular vote still has its problems, too. I don't think people should be ignored and their vote diminished for choosing to live in the 99%+ of the country without highrises.
  
  An uninformed electorate is far and away the biggest problem. Would be nice if the 4th estate could properly educate voters, but they care about ratings now.

  I look at the map and get the country is full of moderates. And, as a result, ideology is overstated and honestly people want compromise and solutions.
  So, saying one party needs to dominate makes no realistic sense, as it will never happen. The country always swings one way or the other.
  
  Lesson: Both parties need to work together. Left and right need to let some things go for the better part of the country.
• BoatShoes

  bigdaddy2003;1319276 wrote:A friend just told me that there were something like 58 districts in Philadelphia that didn't have 1 vote for Romney. That is sad.

  The sole black panther's intimidation factor IMHO.
• Footwedge

  QuakerOats;1319188 wrote:http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/11/08/upside-down-flag-protests-over-election-sparking-controversy/
  
  
  Any you read some of the comments at the bottom and some things really smell about this election.

  I yell ya 2016 can't get here fast enough. I just know that the Kenyon will figure out a way to run for a third term. Probably an amendment to Obamakare.
• QuakerOats

  Footwedge;1319382 wrote:I yell ya 2016 can't get here fast enough. I just know that the Kenyon will figure out a way to run for a third term. Probably an amendment to Obamakare.

  Well, "we need to pass the bill to see what's in it" ...............
• TedSheckler

  

  bigdaddy2003;1319276 wrote:A friend just told me that there were something like 58 districts in Philadelphia that didn't have 1 vote for Romney. That is sad.

  
  What about the county in Florida with 72,000 more votes than voters?
• 2kool4skool

  

  QuakerOats;1319463 wrote:Well, "we need to pass the bill to see what's in it" ...............

  Quaker, are you welching on our bet?
• BGFalcons82

  

  Where are the OWS crowds these days?
  
  Oh wait...I forgot...their financiers won last week.
  
  Nevermind.
• believer

  

  BGFalcons82;1319539 wrote:Where are the OWS crowds these days?
  
  Oh wait...I forgot...their financiers won last week.
  
  Nevermind.

  Yes but the Buckeye OWS groupies are pissed that their Food Stamp bennies are about to be cut.