Election Day 2012
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TedSheckler
like_that;1315354 wrote:How do u know that's for Obama and not the navy seal?
It's a sign of distress. -
Automatik
Doubtful.like_that;1315354 wrote:How do u know that's for Obama and not the navy seal?
Already made Huffington post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mcdonalds-upside-down-american-flag_n_2088972.html -
gut
How do we know the guy wasn't going to fix it but, after Obama got elected, said "screw it" and went home to wait for his gubmit check in the mail?Automatik;1315362 wrote:Doubtful.
Already made Huffington post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mcdonalds-upside-down-american-flag_n_2088972.html -
Automatik
It's pretty cut and dry to me. The owner is an out of touch dumbass. A lot of them have been making their voices heard in the last 24 hours.gut;1315365 wrote:How do we know the guy wasn't going to fix it but, after Obama got elected, said "screw it" and went home to wait for his gubmit check in the mail? -
Cleveland Buck
There is nothing wrong with what they did. They should have done it years ago though. -
gut
So what you're saying is businesses aren't happy with Obama? I'm sure that bodes well for the economy. Maybe McD's can lobby to be able to accept food stamps.Automatik;1315368 wrote:The owner is an out of touch dumbass. -
FatHobbit
I'm just not explaining myself very well today. I was not trying to put words in your mouth. The electoral college keeps states with a high population from drowning out the states with smaller populations. Your solution of dividing up the electoral votes would do the same.WebFire;1315258 wrote:Again, where did I say do away with electoral college? Oh that's right, I didn't.
If I had responded more clearly from the beginning it might have been this:
WebFire;1315064 wrote:Why do people always take the opposite extreme to counter someone's point? Did I say a country with 10 should count as much as 30? No. But our system says that the country with 10 has NO say, as it was in Ohio. Obama won popular vote in Ohio 50-48%. Yet he got all the electoral votes for the state.
That is what needs looked at.FatHobbit;1315086 wrote:It seems to me that you are making a similar argument to the one that is used for having the electoral college. -
WebFire
Ah, ok. I'm sure my comprehension skills are less than stellar today, with all the reading and nonsense going on.FatHobbit;1315373 wrote:I'm just not explaining myself very well today. I was not trying to put words in your mouth. The electoral college keeps states with a high population from drowning out the states with smaller populations. Your solution of dividing up the electoral votes would do the same.
If I had responded more clearly from the beginning it might have been this: -
Automatik
No what I'm saying is it's disrespectful for our country in general. All politics aside.gut;1315371 wrote:So what you're saying is businesses aren't happy with Obama? I'm sure that bodes well for the economy. Maybe McD's can lobby to be able to accept food stamps.
No one is in distress, no public figure has died. The owner just committed business suicide.
Like I said, he's a dumbass and also a coward. It was a "mistake"....riiiight. :laugh: -
gut
LMAO. He owns a McD's. He will be just fine.Automatik;1315377 wrote:The owner just committed business suicide.
I respect his right to protest what I feel was a campaign well beneath the office, and a media that was embarrassingly partisan. Like it or not, this is very much a result of a divide & conquer strategy. I guess it's ok for the POTUS to do it, but god forbid a citizen should exercise his right of free speech. -
FatHobbit
Fat people gots to have them big macs.gut;1315378 wrote:LMAO. He owns a McD's. He will be just fine. -
dazedconfused
O-Trap;1315358 wrote:
it was already like that...its just now they don't have to pretend like they are hiding it -
Automatik
It's a small town. I wouldn't be so sure about that.gut;1315378 wrote:LMAO. He owns a McD's. He will be just fine.
I respect his right to protest what I feel was a campaign well beneath the office, and a media that was embarrassingly partisan. Like it or not, this is very much a result of a divide & conquer strategy. I guess it's ok for the POTUS to do it, but god forbid a citizen should exercise his right of free speech.
He has every to exercise his freedom of speech. Just like I have every right to disagree with it and call him a dumbass.
Protesting is fine, what he did IMO is anti-American. -
O-Trap
Eh, now Colorado Springs is included, because the few who refuse to break the law have joined in.dazedconfused;1315381 wrote:it was already like that...its just now they don't have to pretend like they are hiding it -
gut
Reminds me of a campaign from a certain recently re-elected POTUS.Automatik;1315384 wrote: ... what he did IMO is anti-American.
Obama played the class warfare game and demonized millions of successful small business owners across the country. So why is it anti-American for them to express their disgust with his re-election and the campaign he ran?
As for hurting his business, small town or not you're giving WAAAYYYYYY too much credit to the avg McD's customer. They just want a tasty burger, I doubt they know or would even care about the politics of the owner. -
Automatik
You're taking my comments as coming from someone who is "pro-Obama." You're wrong.gut;1315387 wrote:Reminds me of a campaign from a certain recently re-elected POTUS.
Obama played the class warfare game and demonized millions of successful small business owners across the country. So why is it anti-American for them to express their disgust with his re-election and the campaign he ran?
You think it's OK for the owner to "protest" in that way, which is fine. I'd venture to say the majority will disagree with you. -
Cleveland Buck
Criticizing one's government is anti-American? I thought that was the country what founded upon.Automatik;1315384 wrote:Protesting is fine, what he did IMO is anti-American. -
gut
No I'm not. Your politics has nothing to do with it. I'm saying Obama demonized such business owners and they have a right to be disgusted, and to speak their mind. Reap what you sow. Obama wasn't any better than that and I refuse to hold a burger pusher above the standard set by the POTUS.Automatik;1315388 wrote:You're taking my comments as coming from someone who is "pro-Obama." You're wrong. -
queencitybuckeye
All true, but I can guarantee he's had unpleasant conversations with people in Oak Brook, Illinois reminding him that there's no 1st McAmendment, owner or not.gut;1315378 wrote:LMAO. He owns a McD's. He will be just fine.
I respect his right to protest what I feel was a campaign well beneath the office, and a media that was embarrassingly partisan. Like it or not, this is very much a result of a divide & conquer strategy. I guess it's ok for the POTUS to do it, but god forbid a citizen should exercise his right of free speech.
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Automatik
I don't believe his method of protest is right or warranted.Cleveland Buck;1315390 wrote:Criticizing one's government is anti-American? I thought that was the country what founded upon.
Do you think the owner regrets it? I'd bet every dollar I have on yes. -
gut
Interesting question. Assuming it's a franchise I'm not sure what McD's can really do to him. I doubt he's violated any terms of the franchise agreement.queencitybuckeye;1315392 wrote:All true, but I can guarantee he's had unpleasant conversations with people in Oak Brook, Illinois reminding him that there's no 1st McAmendment, owner or not. -
gut
Hmmm. The guy chose to make a political statement and it's received national attention. I would guess he's quite pleased with that result. I'm sure he'll make the requisite empty apology, but he accomplished his goals in spades.Automatik;1315393 wrote:I don't believe his method of protest is right or warranted.
Do you think the owner regrets it? I'd bet every dollar I have on yes. -
queencitybuckeye
Well, having written an unrelated portion of it, I would say your doubts are in doubt.gut;1315399 wrote:Interesting question. Assuming it's a franchise I'm not sure what McD's can really do to him. I doubt he's violated any terms of the franchise agreement. -
Automatik
Or he jumped the gun, thought of a way to get his voice heard, went through with it and now backpedaling his ass off.gut;1315400 wrote:Hmmm. The guy chose to make a political statement and it's received national attention. I would guess he's quite pleased with that result. I'm sure he'll make the requisite empty apology, but he accomplished his goals in spades.
It could go either way. -
gut
So what you're saying is you're NOT willing to bet every dollar you have on it? Or maybe you only have a few dollars. I don't know.Automatik;1315404 wrote:Or he jumped the gun, thought of a way to get his voice heard, went through with it and now backpedaling his ass off.
It could go either way.