Election Day 2012
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ZWICK 4 PREZPoints aren't awarded by winning a county, it's still beynumber of votes. So what if 15 out of 20 people voted for Romney in a county. When 90-100 voted Obama in a bigger county it still shows up Obama 95 Romney 25. It doesn't matter where you live. 1 person is 1 person. You're making a ridiculous argument.
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FatHobbit
I think if he hadn't been running against Obama, many of the far right would have never voted for a Mormon.Tiernan;1315059 wrote:a Mormon wasn't going to change that perception. -
FatHobbit
It seems to me that he is making the same argument that is used for having the electoral college.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1315080 wrote:Points aren't awarded by winning a county, it's still beynumber of votes. So what if 15 out of 20 people voted for Romney in a county. When 90-100 voted Obama in a bigger county it still shows up Obama 95 Romney 25. It doesn't matter where you live. 1 person is 1 person. You're making a ridiculous argument. -
Cleveland Buck
China doesn't invest in us anymore.MoldyDog;1314978 wrote:Nobody invests in losers. China invests in us because we're winners. Simple as that. -
QuakerOatsCleveland Buck;1315088 wrote:China doesn't invest in us anymore.
Indeed; hel! America isn't going to be investing in America any more. There was $2 trillion sitting on the sidelines, what simpleton thinks that money is leaving the sidelines now; if it does, it is leaving this country. -
j_crazyTiernan;1315059 wrote:I'm doing my Told Ya So Dance up and down the aisle. I voted for BHO because I like to back a winner. Will he do anything that dramatically changes my lifestyle over the next 4 yrs? Doubtful. The Repubs need to seriously question whether to jettison the Ultra Religious Right and Gun Toters before they make another run. Right now many moderate intelligent Americans are voting Democrat because the Far Right Fringe is downright scary and a Mormon wasn't going to change that perception.
One of this guy's best posts. -
rmolin73
You've been spot on since 2008 lol. Maybe it's time that "you" do some soul searching.QuakerOats;1315145 wrote:Indeed; hel! America isn't going to be investing in America any more. There was $2 trillion sitting on the sidelines, what simpleton thinks that money is leaving the sidelines now; if it does, it is leaving this country. -
Tiernan
I agree Hobbit. If a Mormon had been the Dem candidate you would have seen Political Ads ad nauseum depicting him as a Polygamist. The Fundamental Christian Right (Tea Party & NRA) in this country are American jihadists and when a Republican has the balls to stand up and say "I don't want your support you Fk'n lunatics." that is when myself and millions of other traditional Republicans who voted for BHO last night will rally for the GOP again.FatHobbit;1315084 wrote:I think if he hadn't been running against Obama, many of the far right would have never voted for a Mormon. -
QuakerOats
Yes; it has been a great economic ride, hasn't it. No growth, millions unemployed, but you did get an extra $6 trillion in new obama debt. Yes, we have all been wrong. I guess the market is wrong too, tanking 350 points this morning, knowing full well we have 4 more years of zero leadership and no clue what to do.rmolin73;1315156 wrote:You've been spot on since 2008 lol. Maybe it's time that "you" do some soul searching.
Gonna be a lot fun. -
rmolin73I guess that will be your crutch now lol. I stated last night my companies website has thousands of job openings throughout the country. The people that have been in control will have to get off of their butts and start to hire. Their plans failed when they assumed that their stubbornness would change the tide. Watch for the boom in employment. Why would anyone trust you? Well maybe the people that are eroding your party from within will.
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ZWICK 4 PREZ
No he's not. It's not even comparable. Each county isn't worth 1. Some are bigger than others.FatHobbit;1315086 wrote:It seems to me that he is making the same argument that is used for having the electoral college. -
Heretic
Indeed. Mr. "Romney has this in the bag with well over 300 electoral votes -- it will be a blowout" is still showing us all how much he really knows about the world outside of his house.rmolin73;1315156 wrote:You've been spot on since 2008 lol. Maybe it's time that "you" do some soul searching. -
FatHobbit
I'm not exactly sure why I quoted your post. I think I meant to respond to web fire. (And I think that I thought you were responding to him) If we did away with the electoral college, all the big cities would elect the president. So we have the electoral college to give the smaller states more power. There is no version of the electoral college in each state, so it doesn't matter that most of the counties voted for Romney because there are a lot more people in the cities.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1315184 wrote:No he's not. It's not even comparable. Each county isn't worth 1. Some are bigger than others. -
pmoney25I am not sure what is more comical the Romney crew who are down in the dumps today or the Obama crew who think that now all of the sudden we are going to have an economic boom and we are on our way to erasing the debt, ending wars and all the sudden we will quit printing trillions of dollars out of nowhere.
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Heretic
Election Tuesday followed by Delusional Wednesday -- an American Tradition!pmoney25;1315242 wrote:I am not sure what is more comical the Romney crew who are down in the dumps today or the Obama crew who think that now all of the sudden we are going to have an economic boom and we are on our way to erasing the debt, ending wars and all the sudden we will quit printing trillions of dollars out of nowhere. -
gut
I'm a little down in the dumps because I thought Romney had some really good ideas and could get the economy going in the right direction. Somehow and for some reason I quickly convinced myself that Obama just has to largely stay out of the way and businesses will start putting their cash to work.pmoney25;1315242 wrote:I am not sure what is more comical the Romney crew who are down in the dumps today or the Obama crew who think that now all of the sudden we are going to have an economic boom and we are on our way to erasing the debt, ending wars and all the sudden we will quit printing trillions of dollars out of nowhere.
Call me an optimist (which is odd as I tend toward the skeptical). But my hope is that even with Obama being re-elected you have some degree of certainty over the next 4 years that you didn't have yesterday or 6-12 months ago. I know that's wishful thinking - higher taxes and slower growth are not conducive to investment. But it's all I got. -
gut
Hopefully Obama is serious about wanting to sit down with Mitt and talk some solutions (something, oddly enough, he avoided during the debate). LMAO "hey Mitt, I'd like you to be my new Czar of Business".Heretic;1315246 wrote:Election Tuesday followed by Delusional Wednesday -- an American Tradition!
And wouldn't it be ironic if Obama ultimately implemented some of the same policies he railed against in winning the election? -
Heretic
When that happens in everyday life, it's ironic. When it happens in politics, it's same ol'/same ol'.gut;1315251 wrote:Hopefully Obama is serious about wanting to sit down with Mitt and talk some solutions (something, oddly enough, he avoided during the debate). LMAO "hey Mitt, I'd like you to be my new Czar of Business".
And wouldn't it be ironic if Obama ultimately implemented some of the same policies he railed against in winning the election? -
WebFire
Again, where did I say do away with electoral college? Oh that's right, I didn't. But when a state splits the popular vote, it is not accurate representation to give the whole state to one candidate. In fact, the state level popular vote almost does the opposite of what the electoral college is supposed to.FatHobbit;1315235 wrote:I'm not exactly sure why I quoted your post. I think I meant to respond to web fire. (And I think that I thought you were responding to him) If we did away with the electoral college, all the big cities would elect the president. So we have the electoral college to give the smaller states more power. There is no version of the electoral college in each state, so it doesn't matter that most of the counties voted for Romney because there are a lot more people in the cities.
Fact is, 72 counties' people had no say in the election. -
TiernanThe day after I'm not delusional at all...the better horse in this particular race won. Will that horse do shit for anybody? Most likely if you are true middle class to upper middle class - probably not. If you are extremely wealthy he's gonna try and get some more of what you got (but you didn't get extremely wealthy by being stupid...so you might find ways to keep it away from him). If you are poor you might see some benefits from this guy but at the end of the day you are still going to be poor...accept it and move on.
Which of these guys would you rather sit and watch a game with and have a few cold ones? Boom! Romney doesn't even drink cold ones so you know he's a tool to begin with. -
QuakerOatsrmolin73;1315183 wrote:I guess that will be your crutch now lol. I stated last night my companies website has thousands of job openings throughout the country. The people that have been in control will have to get off of their butts and start to hire. Their plans failed when they assumed that their stubbornness would change the tide. Watch for the boom in employment. Why would anyone trust you? Well maybe the people that are eroding your party from within will.
Can't wait for that boom in employment. What will kickstart that, a serious increas in capex? We have easy money for 4 years, but no growth. The risks are far too great for the $2 trillion to come off the sidelines; the costs are too high. I wish it were otherwise, but we have an incredibly unfriendly business climate, we are facing a fiscal cliff, we have no real growth, and we don't have a leader that has exhibited one ounce of humility or the ability to negotiate or compromise with our elected representatives.
I'm sorry for being pessimistic, but I don't see much to get excited about: higher taxes, more costly health care, over-regulation, massive debt, prolific spending, and ZERO leadership in dealing with any of it.
Yes, your guy won, congrats! But he did it with 10 million fewer votes, and barely squeeked by. The entire nation is not swooning over him. He may have gotten a mulligan from the electorate (barely), but the jury is definitely out on his ability to do anything positive whatsoever. -
I Wear Pants
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AutomatikGreat example of how ass backwards my dumbass hometown area is.
Taken today. F*cking morons. :thumbdown:
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like_thatAutomatik;1315353 wrote:Great example of how ass backwards my dumbass hometown area is.
Taken today. F*cking morons. :thumbdown:
How do u know that's for Obama and not the navy seal? -
O-Trap