posted by justincredible

Saw this mentioned on the Jets forum, apparently an idea from some podcaster I've never heard of.

Rodgers should just show up to the Packers facility and head to the weight room. Packers are on the hook for all that money if he hurts himself. Would probably get the wheels moving on finalizing the trade.

Sirius XM (Pat Kirwan) has been talking about this for a while. He's a former GM. Said that Rodgers at the GB facility would make things very "awkward" and would likely expedite things.

This scenario was brought up last year, with the Browns/Mayfield situation before he was traded.

Local Cleveland sports guy brought up an interesting point in his article this morning.

Very tired of hearing "the Browns ruined the QB salaries for the Ravens and Lamar Jackson" by national guys like Rich Eisen and Trey Wingo along with the Rats Ozzie Newsome and GM Eric Decosta.

The 2018 QB draft, which Lamar Jackson was in, has only had one QB, Josh Allen extended to a long-term contract. Eight months later the Browns traded for Watson and gave him the fully guaranteed contract. The Ravens saw the structure of the Allen contract and could've/ should've gotten something done then. But, like everyone else, they probably wanted another year to see if his play was sustainable and whether he was durable enough. NOT the Browns fault. They passed on their chance to sign him.

Now if the Bengals or Chargers have trouble signing Burrow & Herbert because of Watson's contract, I get their beef but not the Ravens. They had their window to extend Lamar but decided to kick the can down the road and now are using their own screw up to blame Cleveland.

Yeah, I’ve thought about this, too. Watson’s contract isn’t the new standard. It was under unique circumstances. He initially wasn’t interested in the Browns and even all but eliminated them, right? Then they offered the ridiculous contract and he changed his mind. 

I’m also tired of hearing how he was MVP like it happened last year. It was 2019. Since then he’s missed the end of multiple seasons/playoffs with injuries which is partially why teams are so reluctant to pursue him. 

QB contracts have gotten way out of hand.  Let's see how many teams win a SB paying close to 25% of their cap to one player.

posted by gut

QB contracts have gotten way out of hand.  Let's see how many teams win a SB paying close to 25% of their cap to one player.

Agree. The only team that's been able to do it is KC with Mahomes. Although, the salary cap is going to jump significantly over the next two years.

posted by friendfromlowry

Yeah, I’ve thought about this, too. Watson’s contract isn’t the new standard. It was under unique circumstances. He initially wasn’t interested in the Browns and even all but eliminated them, right? Then they offered the ridiculous contract and he changed his mind. 

I’m also tired of hearing how he was MVP like it happened last year. It was 2019. Since then he’s missed the end of multiple seasons/playoffs with injuries which is partially why teams are so reluctant to pursue him. 

Burrow and Herbert's contracts will likely dwarf Watson's although they won't be fully guaranteed. I expect Burrow's average to be over $50 mill/year unless he takes some kind of a team friendly dealt to keep the WR's together.

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posted by BR1986FB

So Kentucky QB Will Levis eats bananas with the skin on and puts mayo in his coffee. Does this lower his draft stock? LOL

So I see an article where Rodgers appearance on the Pat McAfee Show where he said he wants to play for the Jets may have slowed this deal from happening. Originally it was believed the Jets were offering a 2023 second rounder and a 2024 first rounder but after Rodgers made those comments the Jets lessened their offer.

Jets were never offering a 1st, no way. 

Jalen Hurts re-signs for 5 years, $255 million. Lamar gonna lose his shit.

posted by BR1986FB

Jalen Hurts re-signs for 5 years, $255 million. Lamar gonna lose his shit.

Well, asking for more hasn't necessarily cost him anything.  Yet.

But now he's got a SB-winning QB, who's been better, who just may have reset the market.  Now it gets complicated and where does LJ slot relative to Hurts?  $45M per year?  $160M guaranteed?  If an agent would take 5-10% off the top, LJ might actually end-up close to breaking even representing himself.

posted by gut

Well, asking for more hasn't necessarily cost him anything.  Yet.

But now he's got a SB-winning QB, who's been better, who just may have reset the market.  Now it gets complicated and where does LJ slot relative to Hurts?  $45M per year?  $160M guaranteed?  If an agent would take 5-10% off the top, LJ might actually end-up close to breaking even representing himself.

Sirius XM was discussing this on my way home. They said Burrow & Herbert would "definitely" get more and Lamar "probably" would. Gives the Rats a bit more wiggle room to pry him away from his supposed guaranteed contract demands.

posted by BR1986FB

Sirius XM was discussing this on my way home. They said Burrow & Herbert would "definitely" get more and Lamar "probably" would. Gives the Rats a bit more wiggle room to pry him away from his supposed guaranteed contract demands.

Interesting.  I think I look at it from the perspective that LJ has been hurt the last few years, and Hurts just went to a SB.  To me, the Hurts contract seems like a pretty definite ceiling for LJ.

Agreed that Burrow and Herbert will get more.  And they should.  The problem with LJ is he's already getting to the point where his legs could be shot in a few years, and then is he still an elite QB without the running ability?  Absolutely not.

posted by gut

Interesting.  I think I look at it from the perspective that LJ has been hurt the last few years, and Hurts just went to a SB.  To me, the Hurts contract seems like a pretty definite ceiling for LJ.

Agreed that Burrow and Herbert will get more.  And they should.  The problem with LJ is he's already getting to the point where his legs could be shot in a few years, and then is he still an elite QB without the running ability?  Absolutely not.

I laughed when your boy (Ben) dissed Lamar by saying "nobody feared him when he's in the pocket." I may not like Roethlisberger but he's not wrong.

I’m not rooting against LJ but I also don’t really care what he gets paid.

You get paid what the organization feels you are worth to them.

Any chance the organization doesn’t want him but doesn’t want to be out front and say it for different reasons?

Not a fan of the Ravens but as an organization…seems like they have done things very well not long after they entered the league. Hard to question thrm much.

posted by Ironman92

I’m not rooting against LJ but I also don’t really care what he gets paid.

You get paid what the organization feels you are worth to them.

Any chance the organization doesn’t want him but doesn’t want to be out front and say it for different reasons?

Not a fan of the Ravens but as an organization…seems like they have done things very well not long after they entered the league. Hard to question thrm much.

Eagles just signed Hurts to an extension after, I believe, year 3. Bills did the same with Josh Allen. When a team is 100% sold on their franchise QB they are typically going to get out in front of things and lock that QB up as soon as they are eligible. The Rats didn't do that with Lamar. I think that says a lot despite what they are saying publicly. Whether they do want to keep him, or not, the longer this drags on the more valuable Lamar is going to think he is.

Also, I believe that it's very possible that the Rats owner, Steve Bischotti (sp?), doesn't have the money to put in escrow to pay Lamar a guaranteed contract. Think that's a big reason that the Bengals sold the naming rights to Paul Brown Stadium...as a money grab so Mike Brown could scrounge up the money for the huge amount he's going to need to put in escrow for Burrow. Locking up Chase, to go with Burrow, will be a whole other issue.

posted by BR1986FB

Eagles just signed Hurts to an extension after, I believe, year 3. Bills did the same with Josh Allen. When a team is 100% sold on their franchise QB they are typically going to get out in front of things and lock that QB up as soon as they are eligible. The Rats didn't do that with Lamar. I think that says a lot despite what they are saying publicly. Whether they do want to keep him, or not, the longer this drags on the more valuable Lamar is going to think he is.

Also, I believe that it's very possible that the Rats owner, Steve Bischotti (sp?), doesn't have the money to put in escrow to pay Lamar a guaranteed contract. Think that's a big reason that the Bengals sold the naming rights to Paul Brown Stadium...as a money grab so Mike Brown could scrounge up the money for the huge amount he's going to need to put in escrow for Burrow. Locking up Chase, to go with Burrow, will be a whole other issue.

Maybe a good call on Burrow thought. I’ve thought all along the Ravens don’t want to go with Lanar

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There it is, Rodgers to Jets. 

Don’t like that it’s a 1th next season for just playing 65% of snaps but whatever. It’s done. 

Jets expected to get 5-6 prime time games.