BM has been surprisingly bad

Myles Garrett 2 straight plays…damn

BM horrible game. Refs bad, Stefanski bad. 

Way to claw it out!

Lord…6 guys can’t block 3 

Williams lucky nothing was called….that would’ve been bad. Never put it in the refs hands 

Ugly (not for the D) and frustrating win, but a W is hard as hell to come by in the NFL.  This would have been a L in the past.  Keep grinding, and at some point both the offense and defense will put it together for an entire game. 

posted by iclfan2

BM horrible game. Refs bad, Stefanski bad. 

Exactly. That was the ugliest, most beautiful win. Defense clawed this out, went into a hostile environment and brought home the W.

Browns won today in spite of Mayfield's wildness/inaccurate passing and Stefanski's head scratching play calls at the end.

This was a VERY good win against a solid team.

Also some talk that Baker's poor performances could be due to his injury being worse than thought. And the "OBJ is Kryptonite to Baker" talk is creeping up again.

Just WIN baby!!!!

posted by like_that

Ugly (not for the D) and frustrating win, but a W is hard as hell to come by in the NFL.  This would have been a L in the past.  Keep grinding, and at some point both the offense and defense will put it together for an entire game. 

Defense is really good. Line dominant, backs good. Ugly win but still a good win.

posted by Ironman92

Defense is really good. Line dominant, backs good. Ugly win but still a good win.

With this upcoming stretch (Chargers, Cardinals & Broncos) they need to bank as many wins as possible, regardless of how ugly.

posted by BR1986FB

With this upcoming stretch (Chargers, Cardinals & Broncos) they need to bank as many wins as possible, regardless of how ugly.

Basically always the case regardless of schedule. Bank the wins in case a couple injuries occur.

Ugly wins count just the same. Go Browns. 

Baker. Woof. Defensive line is outstanding…please, please, please stay healthy. Delpit, Greedy, Newsome and JOK bring the needed youthfulness and athleticism to the secondary that we’ve been missing, Ward too, but he’s been around.

Stefanski dialed up some nice calls I thought, but when Baker is that bad you just gotta admit defeat in the passing game and run it. Like OBJ was WIDE open. I think it was Harrison or one of the TEs a few plays priors to that. The screen to Hunt was set up perfectly, but he hit his OL instead. He was just bad all around — like not even seeing Felton on that 3rd down.

Malik McDowell is looking like one of Berry's "diamond in the rough" finds.

posted by BR1986FB

Malik McDowell is looking like one of Berry's "diamond in the rough" finds.

2nd round talent that we got cheap cause of off field issues. I don’t like this shit, but everyone in the league does it so fuck it. Only way to stay competitive is to have bad dudes on the roster.

This isn't a stretch but I'm calling my shot that JOK blocks a punt before this season is over. Browns haven't blocked a punt, it seems like, in forever but it looks like JOK is just missing a couple times a game.

posted by BR1986FB

This isn't a stretch but I'm calling my shot that JOK blocks a punt before this season is over. Browns haven't blocked a punt, it seems like, in forever but it looks like JOK is just missing a couple times a game.

If I am Stefanski, I'm not sure I'm leaving him on ST long enough for that.

What a monster

Going to be another test against the Bolts. I think the Browns can run on their defense but Baker has to be better. The defense can shut down the Chargers running game but Herbert will be rough. Big stretch of games the next 3 weeks.

Chargers will be really tough, and impossible if Baker doesn't play better. Some really good teams coming up, but you know what? The Browns are a really good team. They need to continue to find ways to win and hopefully come out of this stretch 2-1.

posted by BR1986FB

Going to be another test against the Bolts. I think the Browns can run on their defense but Baker has to be better. The defense can shut down the Chargers running game but Herbert will be rough. Big stretch of games the next 3 weeks.

Yeah….I think the browns running game will be the difference. I think Browns will get enough pressure on Herbert to keep him from being great….he is quite good though.

Similar teams, good match up

If Wills is out that will hurt. Looks like Baker is starting to feel a phantom pass rush and moving around too much. Gonna need a great plan to get the run game going (Chargers one of the worst against the run). 

posted by iclfan2

If Wills is out that will hurt. Looks like Baker is starting to feel a phantom pass rush and moving around too much. Gonna need a great plan to get the run game going (Chargers one of the worst against the run). 

If Hubbard can return, that will help. A fully healthy Hubbard is better than a hobbled Wills.

To your point on Baker, maybe it was just Stefanski believing these teams were too similar and knew each others tendencies but I don't recall seeing much, if any, play action on Sunday and that's where BM using thrives.

Wills needs to just sit a week. Even if Hubbard isnt back. He keeps re-injuring it and eventually thats gonna lead to a worse injury. Just sit him and let it heal to 100%.

Not sure if he was joking or not but Myles posted that he decided to go sleeveless for the first time this year against the Vikings and got a note from the league requesting a drug test the following Monday.