Choosing to receive the kickoff is fucking stupid.
Defense got shredded on that drive, w 2 Oakland holding penalties.
We already suck, don’t need horrible pass interference calls.
posted by iclfan2Maybe with their new QB, their opening drive plays are so tightly scripted that the first one has to start on the 25 yard line!Choosing to receive the kickoff is stupid.
posted by mhs95_06
Maybe with their new QB, their opening drive plays are so tightly scripted that the first one has to start on the 25 yard line!
They chose to receive last week also with their starters.
Another trash call on the Browns. That holding call was weak as fuck
You can’t expect to achieve penetration when you only have a Chub.
Coaching once again loses a game. Trash.
Unspeakable coaching decisions there. Just dreadful. Can’t believe with all the guys out, Stefanski is the one who hurt the most.
And now we are toast.
Oh, wait. Ironman92 may come up with a scenario.
This whole season got dictated after game #1.
So, so disappointing.
I don’t think your out. As a Bengals fan I could see us beating the Ravens next week but losing 2 in a row to the Chiefs and Browns. Browns lose to GB but win the last two. Ravens lose to the Bengals and Rams. So it’s a 3 way tie and I think the tiebreaker goes to Cleveland.
posted by BRFAnd now we are toast.
Oh, wait. Ironman92 may come up with a scenario.
My guess is 9-8 is a multiple tie-breaker scenario between at least 2-3 teams.
If they win out - which I seriously doubt - pretty sure they're in at 10-7.
At 9-8, we can probably assume they beat PIT and CIN otherwise they're likely behind both in tiebreakers. So then you go through all the math and scenarios with BUF, IND/TEN, LAC (and possibly KC, DEN and even LV) to see what has to happen to win the tiebreakers at 9-8.
Not projecting records of anyone....just saying I think NE and KC are locks, and then there are at least 8-9 teams very much alive for the remaining 5 spots.
We need footwedge here to map out all the possible scenarios
Well, shit…….sportchampps and gut come in before Ironman92 to give us hope.
And so we have to win two more games to have a sniff. GB is being marked up as a loss, so we have to beat Cinci and the Stillers to be in the conversation and I don’t see that happening.
Browns have a 40% chance if they beat Cincy and Pittsburgh, with a loss to GB.
Tonight fucking sucked. You just cannot, under any circumstance, run it 3 times there.
posted by BRF
And so we have to win two more games to have a sniff. GB is being marked up as a loss, so we have to beat Cinci and the Stillers to be in the conversation and I don’t see that happening.
You're currently 4-5 in the conference, so it seems very unlikely you'd get in at 9-8 dropping another conference game. That's without even looking at other tiebreakers.
CLE probably needs to run the table. Otherwise, they probably have to beat both CIN and PIT to have a shot at 9-8.
Tale of the whole season tonight, with a different offensive cast. Had a chance to ice the game by getting just ONE 1st down and they didn't get it done. And the FUCKING Kicker? JFC
Last week Clowney said that when the Browns had to go back on defense last, for a game winning stop, he said "good, we want the game in our hands." They had it again this week and didn't get it done.
Myles had a great strip sack TD last week but was , again, a no show in a big game....and I'm talking about before he got dinged up. Looked like he was pretty much handled one on one all night.
posted by BRFAnd now we are toast.
Oh, wait. Ironman92 may come up with a scenario.
This whole season got dictated after game #1.
So, so disappointing.
9-8 could very well win the north. If Browns and Bengals are only two team the Browns would have tie breaker and guessing if Ravens were 3rd team it would still be Browns based on division record knocking out Ravens.
That loss definitely hurt but I fully expect week 18 to matter for all 4 North teams…..somehow
posted by sportchamppsI don’t think your out. As a Bengals fan I could see us beating the Ravens next week but losing 2 in a row to the Chiefs and Browns. Browns lose to GB but win the last two. Ravens lose to the Bengals and Rams. So it’s a 3 way tie and I think the tiebreaker goes to Cleveland.
You left out the Steelers there….that’s completely logical as they aren’t very good but everything so far this season says the Steelers will have a play in this.
posted by BR1986FBTale of the whole season tonight, with a different offensive cast. Had a chance to ice the game by getting just ONE 1st down and they didn't get it done. And the FUCKING Kicker? JFC
Last week Clowney said that when the Browns had to go back on defense last, for a game winning stop, he said "good, we want the game in our hands." They had it again this week and didn't get it done.
Myles had a great strip sack TD last week but was , again, a no show in a big game....and I'm talking about before he got dinged up. Looked like he was pretty much handled one on one all night.
I thought the Raiders had a lot of their plays to keep Myles from doing what he does. It’s hard to believe he still didn’t get in there and at least harass Carr 2-3x though.
posted by BR1986FBTale of the whole season tonight, with a different offensive cast. Had a chance to ice the game by getting just ONE 1st down and they didn't get it done. And the FUCKING Kicker? JFC
Last week Clowney said that when the Browns had to go back on defense last, for a game winning stop, he said "good, we want the game in our hands." They had it again this week and didn't get it done.
Myles had a great strip sack TD last week but was , again, a no show in a big game....and I'm talking about before he got dinged up. Looked like he was pretty much handled one on one all night.
Also on that….the Raiders kept the Steelers pass rush quiet all game too. Watt did get him once but wasn’t around the rest of the game and no one else touched him. I think Watt has 17 sacks in 12 games and he’s usually back there causing problems 4-5x a game like Garrett
posted by Ironman92I thought the Raiders had a lot of their plays to keep Myles from doing what he does. It’s hard to believe he still didn’t get in there and at least harass Carr 2-3x though.
I didn't notice him the whole game. When the Raiders got that holding call on Kolton Miller on their game winning drive I said "good, Myles finally made an impact tonight by getting held." Problem was, don't think it was Myles but #91 that got held.
A lot of people have been clamoring for Stefanski to give up play calling, probably myself included, but tonight we saw AVP has that same "nad shrivel" in big moments.
On that 3rd & 3 to ice the game AVP runs the predictable Chubb off tackle, to Hance's side, which is their weaker running side.
I know, "hindsight" but if Mullens, fakes to Chubb and boots it out to the left he probably runs for the 1st or, worst case, can slide to eat time & punt.
Just shitty, predictable play calling. Been that way ALL year.
posted by Ironman92Also on that….the Raiders kept the Steelers pass rush quiet all game too. Watt did get him once but wasn’t around the rest of the game and no one else touched him. I think Watt has 17 sacks in 12 games and he’s usually back there causing problems 4-5x a game like Garrett
All I heard before the game was how weak their OL was in pass pro and that the Browns should be able to get to him.
Carr may not be elite but he's probably the wrong guy to give the ball for a game winning drive. Dude seems to be money in those situations. He has the most GW drives by any NFL QB since 2015.
posted by Ironman929-8 could very well win the north.
At 10-7, CLE would be in, but....
If CLE beats PIT, then the Steelers (assuming they get stomped by KC, as everyone expects) are basically eliminated and roll over for BAL in the last week. BAL is AFCN champs.
So you beat PIT and CIN, but you're still going to lose AFCN, or wildcard, to CIN on conference record. You might still have a shot at that last wildcard, but you're in deep trouble.
Anyway, I think you HAVE to beat PIT and CIN to have a realistic shot at playoffs. The game against the Packers doesn't truly ruin your shot at playoffs, but then you'll need help.
posted by gutAt 10-7, CLE would be in, but....
If CLE beats PIT, then the Steelers (assuming they get stomped by KC, as everyone expects) are basically eliminated and roll over for BAL in the last week. BAL is AFCN champs.
So you beat PIT and CIN, but you're still going to lose AFCN, or wildcard, to CIN on conference record. You might still have a shot at that last wildcard, but you're in deep trouble.
Anyway, I think you HAVE to beat PIT and CIN to have a realistic shot at playoffs. The game against the Packers doesn't truly ruin your shot at playoffs, but then you'll need help.
If Pittsburgh is eliminated and rolls over for Baltimore…..Baltimore still needs to beat either Rams or Bengals.