posted by Ironman92

If Pittsburgh is eliminated and rolls over for Baltimore…..Baltimore still needs to beat either Rams or Bengals.

Correct. I don’t think Pittsburgh will matter personally. I know tonight if Cleveland won we would have had a three way tie and the tiebreakers went to Cleveland. I can’t see Cleveland not having the tiebreakers still if they beat the Bengals and Steelers.

posted by sportchampps

Correct. I don’t think Pittsburgh will matter personally. I know tonight if Cleveland won we would have had a three way tie and the tiebreakers went to Cleveland. I can’t see Cleveland not having the tiebreakers still if they beat the Bengals and Steelers.

Well they didn’t beat the Steelers the last time

Guys, the Browns are not winning 3 in a row. Such a waste of a season in a year, where the division should have been an easy title.

posted by like_that

Guys, the Browns are not winning 3 in a row. Such a waste of a season in a year, where the division should have been an easy title.

Division? Other than KC's recent surge, a Super Bowl appearance should've been within their grasp. Another season of high expectations (see 2008, 2019) only to be let down.

And the magic number here is "17." If this putrid offense could've scraped out 17 points against Pittsburgh, Baltimore (first game) and last night against LV, they'd be 10-4 and in the drivers seat. Is it TOO MUCH to ask an offense to score SEVENTEEN points?

posted by like_that

Guys, the Browns are not winning 3 in a row. Such a waste of a season in a year, where the division should have been an easy title.

They don’t need to. Just Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. They will need help in this scenario, but it’s not longshotnhelp. 

like_that and BR1986FB have just expressed exactly how I feel about it, too. 

I may have stepped out of the room and missed this but I was not aware that Bitonio started at LT last night and graded very highly according to PFF. They likely won't do this but I wouldn't be opposed to moving Bitonio to LT, Wills to RT and finding a LG to plug in next to Bitonio. Conklin's career is likely done and RT in Wills' natural position.

posted by BR1986FB

I may have stepped out of the room and missed this but I was not aware that Bitonio started at LT last night and graded very highly according to PFF. They likely won't do this but I wouldn't be opposed to moving Bitonio to LT, Wills to RT and finding a LG to plug in next to Bitonio. Conklin's career is likely done and RT in Wills' natural position.

They definitely should do this. Dunn can fill in at guard.

posted by BR1986FB

I may have stepped out of the room and missed this but I was not aware that Bitonio started at LT last night and graded very highly according to PFF. They likely won't do this but I wouldn't be opposed to moving Bitonio to LT, Wills to RT and finding a LG to plug in next to Bitonio. Conklin's career is likely done and RT in Wills' natural position.

Why do you think a PCL tear is career ending?

posted by Laley23

Why do you think a PCL tear is career ending?

A patella tear is different for a 300 lb O-Lineman vs a 185 lb WR. O-Lineman put a lot more torque on their knees than smaller guys.

posted by BR1986FB

A patella tear is different for a 300 lb O-Lineman vs a 185 lb WR. O-Lineman put a lot more torque on their knees than smaller guys.

Yeah, that makes sense. With NBA players coming back to MVP (Durant) form from torn Achilles now, where even 10-15 yrs ago, it was lights out (think Kobe) I’m going to wait until recovery is done before writing him off.

posted by Ironman92

If Pittsburgh is eliminated and rolls over for Baltimore…..Baltimore still needs to beat either Rams or Bengals.

LOL whatever.  Your abacus has lost most of its marbles.

No shocker but the Browns have released P Jamie Gillan

posted by BR1986FB

No shocker but the Browns have released P Jamie Gillan

I called that one. Weird how he regressed so much.

posted by iclfan2

I called that one. Weird how he regressed so much.

Sounds like he's a local bar (Barley House) legend. Think he also had an injury but can't imagine in lingered that long.

Tretter tested positive this morning.

Kicker out w Covid. Can’t imagine too many people looking forward to this game.

The Browns winning today would fit my narrative perfectly…..and Packers losing would add more excitement to the #1 seed race

Browns 31

Packers 27

Chubb 226 yards 2TD

posted by Ironman92

The Browns winning today would fit my narrative perfectly…..and Packers losing would add more excitement to the #1 seed race

Browns 31

Packers 27

Chubb 226 yards 2TD

No need to worry about them winning.

Ok…well then I’m going to expect a tie between the Bengals/Ravens tomorrow 

That dropped 4th interception looked fixed lol. How does anyone not catch that?

Defense keeps us in games, and the offenses continued response game after game is “thanks, but no thanks”.  No way Mayfield should be xtended.

Start holding refs accountable. NFL refs are becoming shittier than mlb umps. 

Chubb 28 carries 

Johnson 12 carries

Why do they not do this?

posted by iclfan2

Start holding refs accountable. NFL refs are becoming shittier than mlb umps. 

4 interceptions and you want to blame a missed holding call  for a miserable loss? GB only scored once when they didn’t start with a turnover

posted by Ironman92

Chubb 28 carries 

Johnson 12 carries

Why do they not do this?

For as bad as Mayfield was last night, Stefanski was just as bad, continuing to have him sling it. Three timeouts in his back pocket with 1st & 10 and they don't try a single running play from midfield?

Browns have a bit of a dilemma. Mayfield is not looking like he's worth extending but what else is out there? Stefanski also has lost a lot of games with his decision making. You have a team built to win now but you have a QB who is looking like a turnover machine and a head coach who turtles up instead of going for knockout punches. And I haven't even brought up the kicking game.