After watching the Behind Baker series, especially the last episode, I am sold. The kid is no Manziel.

Saw an article by one of the browns higher ups (can't remember if it was Dorsey or someone else) that explained the Ward pick.

They had a number of times (I can't remember the number, but it was high) that Myles Garrett was within 1 or 2 steps of the QB, but the coverage broke down way too fast. Ward was the best press corner in the draft and that's how they want to play to knock WRs off their routes giving Myles and Ogbah more time to get to the QB.

posted by jmog

After watching the Behind Baker series, especially the last episode, I am sold. The kid is no Manziel.

What is this, and now do I watch?

posted by jmog

Saw an article by one of the browns higher ups (can't remember if it was Dorsey or someone else) that explained the Ward pick.

 

They had a number of times (I can't remember the number, but it was high) that Myles Garrett was within 1 or 2 steps of the QB, but the coverage broke down way too fast. Ward was the best press corner in the draft and that's how they want to play to knock WRs off their routes giving Myles and Ogbah more time to get to the QB.

We’ve posted the article twice and talked about this twice already. Lol

posted by Commander of Awesome

What is this, and now do I watch?

I watched on Facebook. Imagine you could just google it and find it pretty easily. 

Saw an article on why the Browns picked Ward.  Apparently Williams watched the film  on Myles and believes there were at least 25+ plays where he was 1-2 seconds away from  hitting the QB.  He believes a shut down corner will close the gap on that time. 

It's literally Behindbaker.com

posted by like_that

Saw an article on why the Browns picked Ward.  Apparently Williams watched the film  on Myles and believes there were at least 25+ plays where he was 1-2 seconds away from  hitting the QB.  He believes a shut down corner will close the gap on that time. 

I can see that, but I'm also a skeptic. Sure, but what about when Myles is hurt/gassed? Who is our pass rush then? Is it banking on Ogbah and his 5 sacks a season? Pass rush > CB IMO. I'm sold on Ward being good, but I'm not sold on our pass rushers past Garrett or the health of them. In addition, there is some reason to be skeptical about Chubb as well. His combine 3 cone drill was fairly poor.

"Since 2000, 48 defensive ends and outside linebackers have run a 3-cone time of 7.3 or worse and a 40-yard dash time of 4.7 or better. It’s an odd combination to search but with Chubb, it’s what he is: a great athlete who was fast in straight-line speed but less so in the three-cone. Among those 48, there were seven first round picks: Ernie Sims, Aaron Maybin, Quinton Coples, Charles Grant, Marcus Smith, Takkarist McKinley, and Keith Bulluck."

Not exactly a who's who of NFL pass rushers. He could break the mold certainly, but this is an eyebrow raise.

Wow....finally got some love from this d-bag...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/four-nfl-teams-that-will-surprise-people-in-2018-including-the-cleveland-browns/

As far as Chubb goes, would've liked him but I've heard similar things. Have heard that the majority of his production came against very weak O-Linemen. He's more of a power/bull rush type guy who's kind of stiff in the hips and doesn't have the bend that Garrett does.

posted by BR1986FB

Wow....finally got some love from this d-bag...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/four-nfl-teams-that-will-surprise-people-in-2018-including-the-cleveland-browns/

As far as Chubb goes, would've liked him but I've heard similar things. Have heard that the majority of his production came against very weak O-Linemen. He's more of a power/bull rush type guy who's kind of stiff in the hips and doesn't have the bend that Garrett does.

Considering he's a mouth piece for Hue, I found this interesting:
 

The division is weak beyond the Steelers, and I wouldn't be shocked if Cleveland ended up finishing second (though I still have a hard time seeing this head coach being around beyond this season).

posted by Commander of Awesome

Considering he's a mouth piece for Hue, I found this interesting:
 

The division is weak beyond the Steelers, and I wouldn't be shocked if Cleveland ended up finishing second (though I still have a hard time seeing this head coach being around beyond this season).

I thought Mike Silver was Hue's mouth piece? All LaCanfora does (typically) is rip on the Browns. I agree that the Browns could fight it out for second in the division but the Rats had a pretty decent draft.

posted by BR1986FB

I thought Mike Silver was Hue's mouth piece? All LaCanfora does (typically) is rip on the Browns. I agree that the Browns could fight it out for second in the division but the Rats had a pretty decent draft.

You are correct, I got my POS journalists mixed up.

posted by SportsAndLady

We’ve posted the article twice and talked about this twice already. Lol

I read parts of this thread like once a month and I don't go back and catch up on all the past comments. My bad.

posted by Commander of Awesome

What is this, and now do I watch?

Behindbaker.com, 9 episodes all around 7-9 minutes long. Can watch in about an hour and a half.

https://www.facebook.com/clevelandbrowns/posts/10156582109779684

love me some Dorsey 

posted by SportsAndLady

https://www.facebook.com/clevelandbrowns/posts/10156582109779684

 

love me some Dorsey 

He was on Sirius yesterday and interviewed with Jim Miller & Pat Kirwan. Kirwan is a former longstanding GM and just listening to those guys talking about all of the Browns draft picks, using the technical/football jargon is super cool.

I'll love Dorsey when we win. That means he's doing his job right. Until then I'm cautiously optimistic.

posted by Commander of Awesome

I'll love Dorsey when we win. That means he's doing his job right. Until then I'm cautiously optimistic.

pretty much this

Listening to the press conference today it’s hard to not love mayfield. Super intelligent kid. 

• Here’s what it come down to between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold: 2 3/8 inches. “Baker’s obviously an outlier at 6 feet and 5/8 inches tall,” Browns assistant GM Eliot Wolf said. “But would we be doing the right thing if we changed our board and picked a lesser player because he’s two inches taller?” I asked another draft-decider with a definite quarterback interest two questions: How many teams in the league would he guess graded Darnold higher than Mayfield. (“Twenty.”) And who did he have number one among the passers? (“Mayfield. His tape was so good, there was no comparison to the others.”) Now all we need is two years, maybe more, to see if the Browns were right.

Also, non-Browns from the same MMQB...

“It’s my job in the fourth quarter to close it.”

—LeBron James, after he banked in a running shot from a difficult angle at the buzzer to beat Toronto 105-103 Saturday night.

We are not worthy.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/05/07/peter-king-sports-illustrated-nbc-mmqb

I watched a camp interview with Antonio Callaway, oy he does not inspire confidence AT ALL. Very soft spoken, meek personality. Doesn't look ppl in the eye when talking to them, doesn't REALLY take accountability for his actions etc... I'm not betting on him doing anything in the NFL.

Also, I feel like a person in an abusive relationship, but I still believe in Coleman. Coleman/Gordon/Landry/Njoku I think will be good enough for us to not have to count on Callawy.

Gimme a hit off that pipe, Mike....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774647-packers-mike-mccarthy-deshone-kizer-wouldve-been-1st-round-pick-in-2018-draft?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

posted by BR1986FB

Gimme a hit off that pipe, Mike....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774647-packers-mike-mccarthy-deshone-kizer-wouldve-been-1st-round-pick-in-2018-draft?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

If Josh Allen can go #7, it's not far fetched. Kizer is a superior prospect to Allen. All we know is he was good enough to go 0-16.

posted by Commander of Awesome

If Josh Allen can go #7, it's not far fetched. Kizer is a superior prospect to Allen. All we know is he was good enough to go 0-16.

Kizer definitely has the physical talent and the arm but man I saw that dude throw some worm burners that made you scratch your head.

Allen is significantly better a prospect than kizer lol come on now.