posted by SportsAndLady
“Paranoid”? LOL it’s not paranoia, it’s fact: trading down hasn’t helped us and hasn’t helped anyone. Fact: better talent is available higher in the draft. Fact: staying at 4 gives us a shot at the best or second best defensive player on the board (assuming another QB goes 2 and/or 3). It isn’t paranaoi, like that, it’s just not what your opinion is. Doesn’t mean it’s “dumb as fuck”.
Why would the broncos move up from 5 to 4 when they know the browns aren’t taking a QB at 4? There are 3-4 QBs in this draft that are supposed to be top QBs off the board—if they feel, say the jets, are going to move up in front of them why would the broncos give up a first round pick instead of just taking another QB available at 5?
Also, you keep saying “just because trading down failed us before doesn’t mean it will fail us again” well guess what it also doesn’t guarantee it won’t fail again.
Probably because they would feel the jets are trying to pick the QB they want? Or there is another team willing to trade up to that spot not named the jets and take the QB they want? There are many reasons. I will bet you anything neither team would try to trade for the #4 spot for another position.
The fact you wouldn't trade down one spot, because you have ptsd over previous regimes fucking up picks, tells me it is paranoia. You're holding previous regimes against the new regime from collecting assets. FACT: Many teams have traded down, collected draft picks and are now successful because of it.
Also " Fact: staying at 4 gives us a shot at the best or second best defensive player on the board (assuming another QB goes 2 and/or 3)." This isn't a fact. If the Browns traded down one spot they still would ahve a shot at teh best or second best defensive player on the board. I am not sure why you can't grasp this, unless you truly think the jets/broncos (both need a gm) would actually trade up to not pick a QB.
You're right, trading down again doesn't mean it is fail proof, just like it isn't fail proof to stay at 4 and pass up on going down one spot. It all comes down to the GM making the right picks. Give me the extra picks to move down 1-2 spots easily. That's not even close to being a huge risk. You're acting like the #4 pick is a sure fire 12 year starter going to the HOF. The whole irony in this argument is the same guy we would want at 4 would be at 5 or 6. That's why I say it is paranoia.
Anyway, during the OC mock draft I am trading down the Browns pick 10 times.