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like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sun, Jan 21, 2018 2:06 PM

Not sure why you guys are down on Haley.  He only put up a shit ton of points with the Steelers every year.  

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

Sun, Jan 21, 2018 9:11 PM
posted by like_that

Not sure why you guys are down on Haley.  He only put up a shit ton of points with the Steelers every year.  

With the most talented offense in the NFL. He was also extremely cute, esp on 3rd/4th and short. To your point though, I would still take him. EZ

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Sun, Jan 21, 2018 10:58 PM
posted by like_that

Not sure why you guys are down on Haley.  He only put up a shit ton of points with the Steelers every year.  

They had a top 5 QB, top 2 RB, and top 1 WR, of course they put up points lol

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Mon, Jan 22, 2018 10:06 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

They had a top 5 QB, top 2 RB, and top 1 WR, of course they put up points lol

They weren't lighting it up before him like that.  He also had success in Arizona as a coordinator and he took the fucking chiefs to the playoffs with Matt Cassel and Dwayne Bowe as a HC.  Steelers fans bitching about him, is just as dumb as them bitching about Bruce Arians.   

 

I don't understand the knock on the guy as a coordinator.  It's not saying much, but he would be the best coordinator the Browns have hired since they came back. 

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

Mon, Jan 22, 2018 12:28 PM

What is taking so long with an OC hire?

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 22, 2018 12:32 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

What is taking so long with an OC hire?

Probably a combination of Hue being difficult and OC candidates not entirely enthusiastic about joining this shitshow. 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 22, 2018 3:30 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Probably a combination of Hue being difficult and OC candidates not entirely enthusiastic about joining this shitshow. 

This falls under the "Hue being difficult" category but he's probably not guaranteeing Haley, McAdoo or Mularkey playcalling duties.

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

Mon, Jan 22, 2018 5:52 PM

Browns hired Haley. I'm cool with it.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 9:10 AM
posted by Crimson streak

That is a terrible mock draft 

I like the pick at #4. Not so much at #1 and, frankly, I'd probably flip my lid if he or Allen were taken first overall. Even though I think Allen could be a distinct possibility.

As far as the Haley hire? Not completely hating it. As long as he's calling the plays, I'll get behind it.

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 12:09 PM

I wonder if Haley will have an impact on a vet QB. Would Alex Smith fit in his scheme? Probably right?

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 12:11 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

I wonder if Haley will have an impact on a vet QB. Would Alex Smith fit in his scheme? Probably right?

Was reading where somebody (don't remember the guys name) feels that Smith would be a better fit than Cousins in Haley's system, should they decide to go either route.

Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 12:41 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Was reading where somebody (don't remember the guys name) feels that Smith would be a better fit than Cousins in Haley's system, should they decide to go either route.

I think Cousins could hit the tougher plays better than Smith but maybe not.

If Jacksonville goes away from Bortles I look for Smith to be the good fit there. Different and easier passing schemes with more openings to scramble.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 12:51 PM
posted by Ironman92

I think Cousins could hit the tougher plays better than Smith but maybe not.

If Jacksonville goes away from Bortles I look for Smith to be the good fit there. Different and easier passing schemes with more openings to scramble.

I agree. I get the impression Haley likes to stretch the field? Maybe you can elaborate on that? I've never been of the impression that Smith had a strong arm and was more of a dink & dunk/dumpoff type passer.

Commander of Awesome

Senior Pwner

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 1:04 PM
posted by BR1986FB

I agree. I get the impression Haley likes to stretch the field? Maybe you can elaborate on that? I've never been of the impression that Smith had a strong arm and was more of a dink & dunk/dumpoff type passer.

Smith was one of the best deep passers this season.

As for Haley, Rapistfucker was the least hit QB this season, which leads me to believe he's in a get the ball out quick scheme which doesnt bode well for deep ball passer. I seem to remember Steelers running a ton of screens, bubble screens, etc... 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 1:12 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Smith was one of the best deep passers this season.

As for Haley, Rapistfucker was the least hit QB this season, which leads me to believe he's in a get the ball out quick scheme which doesnt bode well for deep ball passer. I seem to remember Steelers running a ton of screens, bubble screens, etc... 

Not sure about 2017 but TheRapist lead the league in deep balls (no pun intended) in 2016.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 1:53 PM

Browns should get Kirk cousins and Cavs should get Demarcus cousins and all will be well in CLE. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 2:15 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Smith was one of the best deep passers this season.

As for Haley, Rapistfucker was the least hit QB this season, which leads me to believe he's in a get the ball out quick scheme which doesnt bode well for deep ball passer. I seem to remember Steelers running a ton of screens, bubble screens, etc... 

When Mike Munchak took over as O-line coach...it wasn’t long after Ben began getting enough time to do something. Before Munchak the line was awful and Ben never had much time.

As for Alex Smith from what I’ve watched his downfield passes are more traditional whereas Haley loves that 40 yard pass downfield right on the out of bounds line...tough ass completion.

Ive only witnessed Cousins being a little better at the Haley scheme type passes...I can’t say Smith wouldn’t be just as good or better but what I’ve seen is go Cousins 

vball10set

paying it forward

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 3:07 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Browns should get Kirk cousins and Cavs should get Demarcus cousins and all will be well in CLE. 

lol

 

Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 23, 2018 10:28 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/01/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-head-coach

 

Solid read by Joe, but still fuck Hue Jackson

Yes. Ironic that the best Browns player in the last 25 years will be aged out by the time the plan should start to actually work