Sounds like Joe Thomas will give the front office direction on on which way his career will be going (play on or retire) by the start of free agency.

posted by SportsAndLady

Works for me but 0% chance that happens. Haha

They won't get all of that but I'd think they might get some. I think that Dorsey will be very aggressive in free agency but the question is, "will top flight free agents want to come here?"

From Dorsey's comments in radio interviews, I don't get the feeling he wants to screw around. He spoke of "competing for the AFC North this year." I know, all GM's are going to say stuff like that but I get the feeling he's going to look to upgrade this roster ASAP.

posted by BR1986FB

They won't get all of that but I'd think they might get some. I think that Dorsey will be very aggressive in free agency but the question is, "will top flight free agents want to come here?"

From Dorsey's comments in radio interviews, I don't get the feeling he wants to screw around. He spoke of "competing for the AFC North this year." I know, all GM's are going to say stuff like that but I get the feeling he's going to look to upgrade this roster ASAP.

As a browns fan, I’ll just say I’ll believe it when I see it. I have zero confidence in a browns FO improving our roster. “Not getting my hopes up” type thing. Hope Dorsey can do it, but I have zero confidence until I see some moves that make actual sense. 

Side note: I have a feeling that our FA QB pickup is going to be teddy bridgewater. I have nothing behind that other than he just seems like a browns pickup: someone coming off a major knee injury who hasn’t played in years and was a question mark even before the injury. 

posted by SportsAndLady

As a browns fan, I’ll just say I’ll believe it when I see it. I have zero confidence in a browns FO improving our roster. “Not getting my hopes up” type thing. Hope Dorsey can do it, but I have zero confidence until I see some moves that make actual sense. 

Side note: I have a feeling that our FA QB pickup is going to be teddy bridgewater. I have nothing behind that other than he just seems like a browns pickup: someone coming off a major knee injury who hasn’t played in years and was a question mark even before the injury. 

That may be a good call on Bridgewater. I thought about that myself. Minny isn't going to be able to keep them all. If Bradford retires, they probably keep Teddy but I don't see Keenum hitting the market after what he's done this year.

I can't say I'm super confident about the front office but even if they hit a home run in FA and the draft, I have absolutely no faith in Hue. I think he could turn chicken salad into chicken shit. If he gives up the play calling duties I'll have a little more confidence but there are too many examples to cite that the play calling interferes with his clock management/awareness of the game.

A HC shouldn't be worrying about putting together offensive plays. The example of the communications going out against San Diego where he didn't check to see if San Diego's communications had also shut down (one team can't have a communication system if the others isn't working) and his response was "I didn't have time to check on that, I had to call the next play."

Kiper has the browns taking josh Allen at 1. Compared him to Big Ben in that he’s a big guy, outdoor QB, good work ethic and can spin the ball. 

If dorsey agrees, and wants to sit him behind a stopgap FA QB, by all means make it happen. 

That's about where the comparisons end with TheRapist. Allen has some serious accuracy issues. I think he might have the most upside of any of these QB's but he'll probably need to sit a year, at a minimum. Has all of the physical tools though.

posted by SportsAndLady

Kiper has the browns taking josh Allen at 1. Compared him to Big Ben in that he’s a big guy, outdoor QB, good work ethic and can spin the ball. 

If dorsey agrees, and wants to sit him behind a stopgap FA QB, by all means make it happen. 

Fuck no. Allen is more Lynch, Mettenberg, and Hackenberg than he is Carson Wentz. He's trash, willbe trash in the nfl. DO NOT WANT.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Fuck no. Allen is more Lynch, Mettenberg, and Hackenberg than he is Carson Wentz. He's trash, willbe trash in the nfl. DO NOT WANT.

Agreed. I heard one of these NFL analysts on the radio and they said "if you think Josh Allen is Carson Wentz just because of where they played, you'd be wrong. Dead wrong. Allen is a major project and isn't even close to Wentz."

His career completion percentage combined with the toal number of passes he threw does not bode well historically. The names of players that fell into the group (with similar numbers) were not good.

If the Browns are going to take a QB at #1, they have to be as sure as possible on the move. Can't be rolling the dice on a project.

My point was that if Dorsey and co do their homework and see that he’s their guy, works for me. I don’t know who is going to be the best QB, so I can’t really say who to take. Dorsey and the dude from GB are here to get a franchise QB, so they better Fucking get it right. 

Kiper is a dumbass. 

Hard pass on allen.

posted by like_that

Hard pass on allen.

Come on.... tall..big arm...accuracy issues. It’s not like we had the exact same thing this year. 

posted by kizer permanente

Come on.... tall..big arm...accuracy issues. It’s not like we had the exact same thing this year. 

Loved me some Derek Anderson. Too bad "snowball" couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from 3 feet.

Count me in on the fuck no for Allen. I still think Rosen will be the best Qb. As far as RB are concerned a name to keep an eye on in the later rounds is Chase Edmonds from Fordham. He was set to break the FCS all time rushing record this year before he got injuried and only played in 6 games. He actually almost transferred to Penn St this year but decided to stay at Fordham. 

https://soundcloud.com/rotounderworld/hue-jackson-football-podcast

Great listen to how shitty Hue Jackson is. Starts around 19 min

The 'GM's' on this board crack me up, yours truly included...RB (Barkley) at 1, whatever fricking QB is available at 4...so let it be written so let it be done.

Give me Rosen at 1 and Fitzpatrick at 4 and I’ll be very happy 

Hey, COA...still got your insider subscription on the OBR/Scout? Saw some article pop up about potential "red flags" everyone is talking about, regarding Rosen, at the Shrine Game.

posted by BR1986FB

Hey, COA...still got your insider subscription on the OBR/Scout? Saw some article pop up about potential "red flags" everyone is talking about, regarding Rosen, at the Shrine Game.

I do. It essentially says what we've heard on twitter, he'll turn some ppl off, some thing he's a prick. There are rumors of him being a partier, also wont throw at the combine. So essentially nothing new.

Looks like Todd Haley will be the OC. Smh I don’t know who is worse Haley or Jackson 

Todd Haley? Thats such a blah hire. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Todd Haley? Thats such a blah hire. 

I forget who it was but on Golic and Wingo they were talking about Haley and Ben not getting along but whoever their guest was spoke of Haley having those issues as coach in KC, as OC in Arizona and even had similar issues as receivers coach in Dallas.

posted by Crimson streak

Looks like Todd Haley will be the OC. Smh I don’t know who is worse Haley or Jackson 

Link?

This guy...

https://deadspin.com/very-smart-nfl-genius-it-is-better-to-have-more-points-1822277855

Do not want Haley, but will take anyone over Hue.