posted by BR1986FB

Good luck with that. Hearing Herbert may not even come out which leaves who? Haskins & Grier as potential 1st round QB's? (may be missing someone) Not exactly QB's I'd have huge faith in burning a 1st rounder on.

Herbert, Hasking.....Lock. Grier may not go in top 2. If Herbert doesn't come out then yea, Haskins is pretty much it and if they are at 10 and Jacksonville gets one. So yea, they may be screwed for another year.

posted by iclfan2

Herbert, Hasking.....Lock. Grier may not go in top 2. If Herbert doesn't come out then yea, Haskins is pretty much it and if they are at 10 and Jacksonville gets one. So yea, they may be screwed for another year.

Saw some predictions for landing spots of players with Eli going to Jacksonville, Flacco to Miami and Bridgewater to the NYG's.

Evan Silva posed the question on Twitter....

Evan Silva‏Verified account @evansilva 12h12 hours ago

You run an NFL team. Who would you rather have, going forward? You can bring nothing from the past with you. All about best bet for the future.

Choices:

Carson Wentz

Baker Mayfield

Deshaun Watson

Jared Goff

Mayfield was winning with over 53k votes cast and Goff was last.

I do tend to agree with this, for several reasons. I think Goff is very good but also think he's a product of McVay's systems. Also think Watson & Wentz are pretty good but question their long-term viability due to the way they play (susceptible to injuries). Love me some Baker but if Mahomes was on this list, I'd take him over them all right now. I also think that Mayfield's mental makeup is perfect for this franchise and the other three mentioned wouldn't perform here like he does.

EDIT: Just noticed the "you can bring nothing from the past with you" so I can't assume Goff is a system QB without already knowing how he's performed in LA. I can make the comments about Watson & Wentz though because I saw how they played in college and knew they opened themselves up to injury. Can also make the comment about Mayfield because that was part of what I loved about him coming out of college "chip on the shoulder/refuse to fail mentality."

posted by BR1986FB

Evan Silva posed the question on Twitter....

Evan Silva‏Verified account @evansilva 12h12 hours ago

You run an NFL team. Who would you rather have, going forward? You can bring nothing from the past with you. All about best bet for the future.

Choices:

Carson Wentz

Baker Mayfield

Deshaun Watson

Jared Goff

Mayfield was winning with over 53k votes cast and Goff was last.

I do tend to agree with this, for several reasons. I think Goff is very good but also think he's a product of McVay's systems. Also think Watson & Wentz are pretty good but question their long-term viability due to the way they play (susceptible to injuries). Love me some Baker but if Mahomes was on this list, I'd take him over them all right now. I also think that Mayfield's mental makeup is perfect for this franchise and the other three mentioned wouldn't perform here like he does.

EDIT: Just noticed the "you can bring nothing from the past with you" so I can't assume Goff is a system QB without already knowing how he's performed in LA. I can make the comments about Watson & Wentz though because I saw how they played in college and knew they opened themselves up to injury. Can also make the comment about Mayfield because that was part of what I loved about him coming out of college "chip on the shoulder/refuse to fail mentality."

Yea, I saw a ton of Philly fans screaming at Browns fans for saying Baker > Wentz.  I picked Baker in that poll on twitter, but I'm really just glad we have a QB who is good enough to be argued with the best young qbs. I wouldn't cry over having Wentz right now, but he is starting to have a problem saying healthy. 

posted by iclfan2

Yea, I saw a ton of Philly fans screaming at Browns fans for saying Baker > Wentz.  I picked Baker in that poll on twitter, but I'm really just glad we have a QB who is good enough to be argued with the best young qbs. I wouldn't cry over having Wentz right now, but he is starting to have a problem saying healthy. 

This is my biggest concern and I was a Wentz guy in that draft. Baker's mental makeup is what put it over the top for me. I think part of the reason Dorsey targeted him was for that reason. I think Dorsey may have felt that someone like Baker, who has overcome numerous challenges, could overcome the (usually) dysfunctional atmosphere here. I don't think those other three could, especially Goff.

I would pick Wentz if not for the injury concerns. I legit thought Wentz was the best QB in the NFL pre-injury. After that, he’s looked okay but not great. 

Give me baker in that poll. 

https://www.cantonrep.com/sports/20181211/what-browns-baker-mayfield-likes-about-gregg-williams-everything

I am giving Wentz a pass this year.  That's not an easy injury to come back from.  If there are issues next year, then Eagles fans should be legitimately concerned.

I'd pick Goff in that poll currently.  I like to give QBs 3 years, before I think they have solidified themselves.  I am happy with Baker so far, but still cautiously optimistic.  We have to see what he does in his sophomore season.

I'm just happy we aren't in a position where we are talking about who we will be drafting in April....

Goff is still terrible if McVay doesn’t have has receivers getting open right away. He isn’t gonna just stand in the pocket and be able to deliver strikes versus good defenses and pick apart stuff at the LOS etc. He’s plenty good to win a SB, because of his team, but he would be what he was with Jeff Fisher without McVay saving him. I stand by that, 100%.

Wentz is really good. He was great last year and solid rookie season. Coming off his injury he hasn’t looked right moving and throwing all year. Tough to judge. He has a personality that would work in Cleveland also, so it’s a toss up with him and Baker for me. I guess since he is hurt I’ll go Baker cause you never know about recovery. 

Watson is fine. Above average QB but too many really dud games. Can’t scramble like you’d expect him to and doesn’t even get 300 yards regularly...in 2018, that’s a problem 4x all season). 22/9 TD to INT ratio, with 5 of those in one game (only game with more than 2). Don’t know, he seems to be what I expected in college. 

Looks like JT likes Greg Robinson...

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Joe-Thomas-Greg-Robinson-Browns-left-tackle-126308225/?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=181213_122629_Cleveland%20Browns&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=23-82-89-46-EB-EA-D9-D5-6F-7B-1B-2C-2B-3A-51-D9181213_122629ClevelandBrowns

posted by SportsAndLady

I would pick Wentz if not for the injury concerns. I legit thought Wentz was the best QB in the NFL pre-injury. After that, he’s looked okay but not great. 

Give me baker in that poll. 

Where would you rank Watson since you are the highest on him here and thought we shouldn't have traded with Houston?

Personally, I would take Baker/Ward over picking Watson last year.  

posted by like_that

Where would you rank Watson since you are the highest on him here and thought we shouldn't have traded with Houston?

Personally, I would take Baker/Ward over picking Watson last year.  

I would take baker and ward over Watson, too. But I also would have been thrilled with Watson and know that if we had Watson this year on his second season, we’d be a playoff team this year. So I wouldn’t QQ about having him. But yeah, would much rather have ward and baker. I’d have Watson as probably top 12 maybe top 14 QB. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I would take baker and ward over Watson, too. But I also would have been thrilled with Watson and know that if we had Watson this year on his second season, we’d be a playoff team this year. So I wouldn’t QQ about having him. But yeah, would much rather have ward and baker. I’d have Watson as probably top 12 maybe top 14 QB. 

The Browns aren't making the playoffs with Watson and Hue coaching for the first half of the season. 

posted by like_that

The Browns aren't making the playoffs with Watson and Hue coaching for the first half of the season. 

If Hue wasn’t the coach, the browns are making the playoffs this year with Watson at QB. That’s for damn sure. 

posted by SportsAndLady

If Hue wasn’t the coach, the browns are making the playoffs this year with Watson at QB. That’s for damn sure. 

If Hue wasn’t coach, might be making them with Baker.

posted by SportsAndLady

If Hue wasn’t the coach, the browns are making the playoffs this year with Watson at QB. That’s for damn sure. 

I would put more money on them making it with Baker than with Watson.  

posted by like_that

I would put more money on them making it with Baker than with Watson.  

I’m not really disagreeing. I just know that Watson would have the browns in the playoffs (assuming Hue was canned) during his sophomore season. And because of that, I’d be 100% happy with the pick. 

But like I said, I’m also happy with Baker. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I’m not really disagreeing. I just know that Watson would have the browns in the playoffs (assuming Hue was canned) during his sophomore season. And because of that, I’d be 100% happy with the pick. 

But like I said, I’m also happy with Baker. 

But with Watson last year does he lead the Browns to maybe 3-4 wins and not making Hue as hideous?

Anyways Baker and Watson are both good ones

posted by Ironman92

But with Watson last year does he lead the Browns to maybe 3-4 wins and not making Hue as hideous?

Anyways Baker and Watson are both good ones

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Your last line is basically what I’m getting at. I’m simply pointing out that Watson is a good QB and we’d all be very happy with him if we drafted him (despite a lot on here still not being sold on him). 

Ok, enough with ITT we jerk off a QB that doesn't play for the browns.

I think Browns get a W in Denver Saturday. Don't see any weapons on Denver outside of Lindsay and think Myles can deal with Case just fine.

Browns win big.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Ok, enough with ITT we jerk off a QB that doesn't play for the browns.

I think Browns get a W in Denver Saturday. Don't see any weapons on Denver outside of Lindsay and think Myles can deal with Case just fine.

Browns win big.

Wow that’s really positive. Tough place to win

posted by Ironman92

Wow that’s really positive. Tough place to win

 

Long as Baker stays healthy, hard to lose with a top 10 QB.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Long as Baker stays healthy, hard to lose with a top 10 QB.

1-5 on the road has to be a little bit of a factor

Won’t blow them out but I definitely feel good about our chances. Feel like Baker will be someone who will thrive in prime time games.