One guy I was surprised wasn't on the rankings was Landry. Chubb probably could've been higher. Already hearing he's the "best Browns RB in the modern era."

posted by BR1986FB

One guy I was surprised wasn't on the rankings was Landry. Chubb probably could've been higher. Already hearing he's the "best Browns RB in the modern era."

Probably not higher, because RBs have a shorter shelf life in the NFL. 

Saturday night could mean huge production for Njoku, Fells & Devalve. SF's tight end had 210 yards in the first half against Denver. Chubb could also have a very nice game as the Donks are susceptible to the run. Need to keep Chubb & Miller in check and the passing game could also be solid as Denver has had a depleted secondary.

On defense, it's ALL about stopping Lindsay and making Keenum beat you. The Broncos essentially have nothing at receiver with Sanders being gone for the year and Thomas being traded. They do have a promising rookie WR but that's about it. Keenum has been sacked 30x's so Myles & Company may be able to do some damage.

Interesting facts: Myles Garrett needs 2.5 sacks to become the all-time sack leader, for a season.

The Browns haven't beaten Denver since 1990.

I’d be really surprised if it is anyone other than Riley to be the next coach. Dorsey has been at 2 Oklahoma games on the sideline since hue was fired. If Riley wants it I think it’s his. 

posted by Crimson streak

If Riley wants it I think it’s his. 

And this is the X Factor. Will he want to leave Oklahoma? With Haslam, I doubt money will be the issue. If not, my concern is that they may end up with a retread. A lot of these younger guys may not make moves. The two I definitely don't want are McCarthy & McDaniels with Arians being in the "meh" category.

posted by BR1986FB

And this is the X Factor. Will he want to leave Oklahoma? With Haslam, I doubt money will be the issue. If not, my concern is that they may end up with a retread. A lot of these younger guys may not make moves. The two I definitely don't want are McCarthy & McDaniels with Arians being in the "meh" category.

If Riley does turn it down, I’m completely fine with keeping Greg willians as head coach with kitchens as OC and possibly bringing in Bowles as DC 

Brian Spoon@BrianSpoon

#Browns Baker Mayfield was pressured on 29.2% of dropbacks on Sunday, but it made no difference. He went 5-for-5 for 76 yds, one TD, and a perfect 158.3 passer rating when facing pressure.

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10:35 AM - Dec 11, 2018

Steve Doerschuk‏ @sdoerschukREP

#Browns-Broncos Vance Joseph didn't intend this as memo to Gregg Williams, but ... "Case (Keenum) was a little cautious yesterday," Denver HC said today. "I want him to be more aggressive." An aside: Denzel Ward due back from concussion.

2:06 PM - 10 Dec 2018 from Ohio, USA

I saw Ward wasn't at practice today.

posted by iclfan2

I saw Ward wasn't at practice today.

I saw this too right after Doerschuk tweet and was like "WTF, Steve?" I think if he's not cleared by tomorrow that he won't be allowed to play.

Riley’s stock is very high right now. If he wants to jump, it’s probably best chance to do so u less he continues this for another 4-5 years. Back to back heisman QBs. Chance to coach the one in Cleveland. Back to back playoff appearances etc.

He could stay and try and be an Urban/Dabo/Saban and make the playoffs every year, lose 2 or less games a season, etc. But that’s tough to sustain, as many great college coaches have found out, over the years. If he ever wants the NFL, I think he jumps now.

posted by Laley23

Riley’s stock is very high right now. If he wants to jump, it’s probably best chance to do so u less he continues this for another 4-5 years. Back to back heisman QBs. Chance to coach the one in Cleveland. Back to back playoff appearances etc.

He could stay and try and be an Urban/Dabo/Saban and make the playoffs every year, lose 2 or less games a season, etc. But that’s tough to sustain, as many great college coaches have found out, over the years. If he ever wants the NFL, I think he jumps now.

Agreed 100% the fact Dorsey has been there twice now in 4-5 weeks tells me he has some interest in making that jump. 

Anyone else think Riley looks a little like Dr Cox on Scrubs? Ok, I'm outta here...

posted by Crimson streak

 

Agreed 100% the fact Dorsey has been there twice now in 4-5 weeks tells me he has some interest in making that jump. 

 

I feel like some are reading into this too much.  Those happened to be some marquee games he went to with NFL talent.  I am not sure why a GM needs to see a coach in person to evaluate him.  

Just saw on the NFL Network that the 2019 salary cap is going to spike another $10m+. My guestimate would put the Browns at $70-80m in cap space. Lock up a couple of keepers and snag a couple of good FA's.

posted by BR1986FB

Just saw on the NFL Network that the 2019 salary cap is going to spike another $10m+. My guestimate would put the Browns at $70-80m in cap space. Lock up a couple of keepers and snag a couple of good FA's.

Who do you have in mind?

posted by SportsAndLady

Kill yourself dude.  You’ve turned into the absolute worst on here. 

So when you can't respond to my comments that is what you resort to?  What a sad life you must lead....Infeel sorry for you.  Have a good day!

posted by Commander of Awesome

Who do you have in mind?

There are a few guys on the roster I'd re-sign. May not be popular on here but I'd retain Perriman & Greg Robinson if they can get them for cheap. Would also keep Higgins. Boddy-Calhoun is the only other player of note. On the fence about him. Would also extend Schobert and maybe Ogbah. The rest are JAG's.

Barring what happens against Denver's pass rush, I think that Greg Robinson can do an adequate job at LT. Is he the best? No, but Baker's making this O-Line look elite. Heard a stat this morning that since week 9, BM's only had FOUR QB hits. Mahomes has been hit over 30x's. Has something to say about Mayfield's pocket awareness, imo.

As far as outside FA's, can't really speculate on that until we know who's going to hit the market. I will say that if Dorsey's going to get a #1 WR, it's going to have to be via trade ala Jarvis Landry. This year's draft crop for WR's is weak as hell. Question is, will there be a WR available for trade?

posted by BR1986FB

There are a few guys on the roster I'd re-sign. May not be popular on here but I'd retain Perriman & Greg Robinson if they can get them for cheap. Would also keep Higgins. Boddy-Calhoun is the only other player of note. On the fence about him. Would also extend Schobert and maybe Ogbah. The rest are JAG's.

Barring what happens against Denver's pass rush, I think that Greg Robinson can do an adequate job at LT. Is he the best? No, but Baker's making this O-Line look elite. Heard a stat this morning that since week 9, BM's only had FOUR QB hits. Mahomes has been hit over 30x's. Has something to say about Mayfield's pocket awareness, imo.

As far as outside FA's, can't really speculate on that until we know who's going to hit the market. I will say that if Dorsey's going to get a #1 WR, it's going to have to be via trade ala Jarvis Landry. This year's draft crop for WR's is weak as hell. Question is, will there be a WR available for trade?

I fully expect OBJ to be in a browns uniform next year. It’s akready been reported that Dorsey has had talks with the giants about him and I really think the giants deal him this offseason and go in a full rebuild trying to acquire picks. It might take 2 1sts or a 1st and second but I think it’s well worth it 

posted by Crimson streak

 

I fully expect OBJ to be in a browns uniform next year. It’s akready been reported that Dorsey has had talks with the giants about him and I really think the giants deal him this offseason and go in a full rebuild trying to acquire picks. It might take 2 1sts or a 1st and second but I think it’s well worth it 

 

That's kind of the direction I was thinking as far as WR's go but didn't name his name specifically. If the NYG's end up drafting a rookie QB, I'd be surprised if they part with him.

This was what I was talking about with the QB hits since week 9...

https://twitter.com/Brickwallblitz/status/1072622680644423682?s=20

posted by BR1986FB

If the NYG's end up drafting a rookie QB, I'd be surprised if they part with him.

Don't they pretty much have to?

posted by iclfan2

Don't they pretty much have to?

What? Draft a QB or part with OBJ?

posted by BR1986FB

What? Draft a QB or part with OBJ?

Draft a qb

posted by iclfan2

Draft a qb

Good luck with that. Hearing Herbert may not even come out which leaves who? Haskins & Grier as potential 1st round QB's? (may be missing someone) Not exactly QB's I'd have huge faith in burning a 1st rounder on.

posted by Crimson streak

 

I fully expect OBJ to be in a browns uniform next year. It’s akready been reported that Dorsey has had talks with the giants about him and I really think the giants deal him this offseason and go in a full rebuild trying to acquire picks. It might take 2 1sts or a 1st and second but I think it’s well worth it 

 

That is very bullish of you and I have a hard time buying for several reasons:

1. Let's be real, none of us really know wtf Dorsey is going to do.  Just take a look at our off season discussion leading up to the draft.  We had a very poor batting average with our predictions.

2. Dorsey is on record stating it takes 3 years to turn a franchise around.  Trying to take a shortcut by bypassing the draft doesn't fit his style.

3. As nice as it is to be able to get excited about the Browns future, they are not a a mega trade for a star WR away from being SB contenders.

4. Several other teams will be interested in OBJ if he is on the block.

I also don't believe WR is a top need for the team.  OBJ doesn't put them on top.  I'd prefer Dorsey to stay the course and keep drafting.  We finally have a GM that has a track record of drafting well, so let's keep getting young talent.