posted by vball10set

if Taylor leads them to a 5-5 start, why in the hell would we Browns fans want a change at that point?

Consider the source of that post and you have your answer. 

posted by BR1986FB

Dorsey was interviewed and was actually talking about an extension for TT? That would be pretty odd, to me, considering where they took Mayfield.

As far as Corey Coleman goes, dude has been in the doghouse ever since he got into some crap with Kenny Britt in Houston (I believe). They've been shopping him for nine months. Shows what the rest of the league thinks of him when all they got in return was a third day draft pick.

Not that he (Coleman) was a world beater but this WR group is a Landry injury away from being one of the bottom position groups in the league. I do expect Callaway to slide into Coleman's spot and it sounds like Gordon will be back. 

From what I have read, it looks like Coleman lost his spot to Callaway.  I am not sure if i agree with your "this team is a landry injury away from having the worst WR corp" sentiment though.  Seems like quite the reach.

posted by iclfan2

Lol, a 7th rounder in 2020?  Shows you it is talent and his attitude. 

My initial thoughts were why even trade him if that is what you're going to get for him?  I'd rather take my chances and see if he will actually develop vs taking a useless 7th rounder 2 drafts from now.  Then I started to think about it, and trading someone for a 7th rounder is pretty much an org saying "get this dude the hell out of our fucking locker room."  It had to be more than just his lack of development. 

posted by like_that

 

 

  Then I started to think about it, and trading someone for a 7th rounder is pretty much an org saying "get this dude the hell out of our fucking locker room."  It had to be more than just his lack of development. 

 

Precisely. It was a "we'll take what we can get or we'll likely just cut him" scenario. Dude has been on the trade block for quite some time.

Don't think my comment about the receiving corps was a reach. Outside of Landry and Duke (if he's considered a WR) there aren't many proven (not counting Gordon because he can't be relied on and hasn't played consistently in a few years) WR's that can be relied on. If Landry goes down, this group becomes very easy to defend.

posted by BR1986FB

Not that he (Coleman) was a world beater but this WR group is a Landry injury away from being one of the bottom position groups in the league. I do expect Callaway to slide into Coleman's spot and it sounds like Gordon will be back. 

S&L made a similar point with AB/Steelers already but I'm pretty sure if AJ Green got hurt, the worst receiving group in the league would be the Bengals. Can you name a receiver on the team outside of him? And if for some reason you were going to say Lafell, he was released last week. 

posted by BR1986FB

Not really. Brown going down would be a huge hit to them but his supporting cast is better than the Browns.

My point was you can’t say “well if this player weren’t here, we’d be bad at his position.”

The player is here and he’s healthy. 

And besides, I could make an argument that the browns have a better WR group outside of AB and Landry. But that wasn’t even my point. 

For arguments sake..

AB slightly better than Gordon 

ju ju is not better than Landry 

Heyward-bay, Calloway hasn’t even played a game yet and he’s already better then heyward-bays bum ass

Washington and Higgins are about equal 

Vance McDonald- njoku is way better 

bell and duke are about equal in the passing game. 

So in all, no the Steelers don’t have a better receiving core than the Browns. So if AB would go down it makes that core very piss poor outside of ju ju

I think AB is more than slightly better than Gordon (not a diss on Gordon). AB is the best wr in football. 

Dont think Njoku is way better than anyone right now. Drops too many passes and still raw. 

Other than that I agree. 

Former GM Tom Heckert died at age 51.

posted by SportsAndLady

I think AB is more than slightly better than Gordon (not a diss on Gordon). AB is the best wr in football. 

Dont think Njoku is way better than anyone right now. Drops too many passes and still raw. 

Other than that I agree. 

Yeah, you can't compare AB to Gordon. There might be an argument if one were to compare 2013 JG to AB but I don't think anyone knows what the Browns are going to get out of current Josh Gordon. Hopefully it's close to what he did his breakout year but I doubt it a) because of being out so long and b) Landry's probably going to get his 1000.

Yeah, but Gordon is better than JuJu...which is what would result as the #1s in this retarded argument we are having lol.

posted by iclfan2

Former GM Tom Heckert died at age 51.

Saw that, 51 is waaay too young. Not sure what caused the early death but man that is sad.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Saw that, 51 is waaay too young. Not sure what caused the early death but man that is sad.

He apparently has had some blood disease for a while now.

posted by Laley23

Yeah, but Gordon is better than JuJu...which is what would result as the #1s in this retarded argument we are having lol.

This. 

I don't know how anyone can say Gordon is better than anyone right now. Guy hasn't played consistently in 5 years. He should still be very good but nobody knows exactly what to expect. I'd bet he won't ever be 2013 JG again though.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/06/jarvis-landry-odell-beckham-would-be-up-for-playing-for-browns/

posted by BR1986FB

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/06/jarvis-landry-odell-beckham-would-be-up-for-playing-for-browns/

I wacthed the clip, it's total click bait BS.

posted by Commander of Awesome

I wacthed the clip, it's total click bait BS.

I've heard that Landry has discussed it with OBJ. That would be a helluva receiving corps between Landry & OBJ, throw Duke in there.

posted by BR1986FB

I've heard that Landry has discussed it with OBJ. That would be a helluva receiving corps between Landry & OBJ, throw Duke in there.

So then the Browns would be a landry and obj injury away from the worst WR corp in the league.

posted by like_that

So then the Browns would be a landry and obj injury away from the worst WR corp in the league.

Umm, no...unlike now, they'd have insurance if one of them went down.

posted by like_that

So then the Browns would be a landry and obj injury away from the worst WR corp in the league.

Lol'd

posted by BR1986FB

Umm, no...unlike now, they'd have insurance if one of them went down.

Joke not landed on your screen, I take it?

He was saying if they both went down...as a joke. And I lol’d. That was damn funny.

Surprised to see a few names on the first team roster for Thursday. Jamie Meder over Larry Ogunjobi. And Terrence Mitchell over TJ Carrie. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Surprised to see a few names on the first team roster for Thursday. Jamie Meder over Larry Ogunjobi. And Terrence Mitchell over TJ Carrie. 

Carrie has had a rather public bad camp, but I agree. Given money allocated it's not a great sign to start the season.

posted by Laley23

Joke not landed on your screen, I take it?

He was saying if they both went down...as a joke. And I lol’d. That was damn funny.

Yeah, I got it but the chances of both of them going down at the same time would be pretty slim.

Back to Tom Heckert....I had completely forgotten about him and the fact that he was actually probably the best the Browns have had at talent evaluation since the return. He was responsible for Haden, Ward, Jordan Cameron, Travis Benjamin, Mitchell Schwartz and Gordon being on the roster.  Just couldn't find the QB.

And COA's right, Carrie's been pretty bad.

Seeing a lot of positive feedback on Antonio callaway. Apparently he is tearing it up out there and part of the reason why they were fine moving Coleman. 

Seeing a lot of early comparisons to Antonio Brown back when Antonio Brown was a rookie. Fast cuts, great route running, came in as a WR3/4, kick and punt returning duties, etc. 

Im very excited about him. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Seeing a lot of positive feedback on Antonio callaway. Apparently he is tearing it up out there and part of the reason why they were fine moving Coleman. 

Seeing a lot of early comparisons to Antonio Brown back when Antonio Brown was a rookie. Fast cuts, great route running, came in as a WR3/4, kick and punt returning duties, etc. 

Im very excited about him. 

There's reason for that. I'm pretty sure Callaway worked out with AB in the offseason. My coworker went to TC and said Callaway looks a lot like AB in the way he runs his routes, etc.