posted by ptown_trojans_1

I mean it is not like the right wing groups are like scheming to capture a Governor or anything right?

https://static.politico.com/e5/1d/aa6277a242e0af889ec06f7e4a12/michiganaffidavit.pdf

1. Do we know they are associated with a white supremacy group like the KKK, neo-nazi's, etc?

2. Do we know that they are even racists at all? They planned on kidnapping a WHITE woman right? 

3. You see the difference though right? One thwarted case vs daily riots...it doesn't compare in totality ptown. You know this.

posted by geeblock

Hating trump doesn’t mean that you aren’t right wing. The original statement was about right wing vs left wing violence. I said they kill people and referenced tim mcveigh who wasn’t a white supremest. These guys right on schedule wanted to kill someone. White supremests also usually are right wing. Not sure why you are going out of your way to defend them

LOL, these guys - just like Timothy McVeigh - were Antifa before it was cool.  You really keep going back to the well of failure.

posted by geeblock

Also what is happening daily?

riots and looting for months happened daily.

If you look closely now, as it is coming out the kidnapping looks like a few anti-police and anarchist guys...are you SURE they are "right wingers"? Or, did you just jump to that conclusion because the MSM told you so?

posted by geeblock

Also what is the link between this and blm? These are criminals. Period 

I hope you aren't serious....

posted by iclfan2

They still weren’t white supremacists. They wanted to kill cops too. You’ve literally never been correct.

Facts don't matter to Geeblock, just what color they are.

posted by geeblock

We were comparing right wing va left wing violence. They certainly are right wing. 

Evidence already shows you that you are wrong. They hated Trump, hated cops, etc. That is the opposite of right wing...

posted by geeblock

Hating trump doesn’t mean that you aren’t right wing. The original statement was about right wing vs left wing violence. I said they kill people and referenced tim mcveigh who wasn’t a white supremest. These guys right on schedule wanted to kill someone. White supremests also usually are right wing. Not sure why you are going out of your way to defend them 

God don't be so stupid.

NO ONE HERE IS DEFENDING THEM.

If you think anyone is defending them then you are a complete moron.

With that said. They are not right wing. Which side of the aisle hates Trump and hates cops? That sounds more like the left to me...

Also, you are right, McVeigh was probably far right wing. However, to be fair, you have to pick a name from 1995? We are talking about RIGHT NOW, not 25 years ago.

To anyone non-biased it is quite obvious where the majority of the violence comes from over the last 5 years or more.

It looks more and more like the ringleader of the group who planned to abduct Whitmer is an AnCom.

posted by CenterBHSFan

It looks more and more like the ringleader of the group who planned to abduct Whitmer is an AnCom.

In other words far left wacko...

Assuming this holds up, I wonder if ptown and Geeblock will come back to admit they were wrong?

posted by jmog

In other words far left wacko...

Assuming this holds up, I wonder if ptown and Geeblock will come back to admit they were wrong?

0 chance. 

I am beginning to believe these guys were in the “so far right they are left” or “so far left they are right” group. There is a political model where fascism and communism meet and spiral into anarchism. 

These morons are in that spiral. 

 Very fine people. Carry on 

posted by geeblock

 Very fine people. Carry on 

So when you get shown you are wrong you deflect?

Be better Geeblock. You already made one moronic statement that someone was defending them...you should have stopped there.

posted by jmog

Be better Geeblock.

LOL

posted by jmog

So when you get shown you are wrong you deflect?

Be better Geeblock. You already made one moronic statement that someone was defending them...you should have stopped there.

Your trying too hard man 

posted by geeblock

Your trying too hard man 

I am trying to hard? You have been proven wrong repeatedly about the prevalence of white supremacy violence being on similar levels as antifa and BLM. 

You try hard by pulling events from 25 years ago as proof rather than things that have happened anytime even in this millennium.

Then this kidnapping plot happens and their politics don’t match up with what you stated so you deflect to “why are you guys defending them?”.

Once you are called out on that being a moronic statement since NO ONE IS DEFENDING THEM, you deflect again with “good people on both sides”.

You are the one trying so hard to move the goalposts and change the subject because facts don’t line up with your feelings.

So stop trying so hard and admit when you are wrong.

posted by jmog

I am trying to hard? You have been proven wrong repeatedly about the prevalence of white supremacy violence being on similar levels as antifa and BLM. 

You try hard by pulling events from 25 years ago as proof rather than things that have happened anytime even in this millennium.

Then this kidnapping plot happens and their politics don’t match up with what you stated so you deflect to “why are you guys defending them?”.

Once you are called out on that being a moronic statement since NO ONE IS DEFENDING THEM, you deflect again with “good people on both sides”.

You are the one trying so hard to move the goalposts and change the subject because facts don’t line up with your feelings.

So stop trying so hard and admit when you are wrong.

I said right wing violence is worse than left wing violence because it usually involves killing people and not just broken property. This fits that exactly as they were going to not just kidnap her but try her and hang her for treason. Then you go on this diatribe about them not being white supremests as if that changes anything  and then u say well I know what all 13 believe and they are actually left wing antifa lol stop trying so hard

posted by geeblock

I said right wing violence is worse than left wing violence because it usually involves killing people and not just broken property. This fits that exactly as they were going to not just kidnap her but try her and hang her for treason. Then you go on this diatribe about them not being white supremests as if that changes anything  and then u say well I know what all 13 believe and they are actually left wing antifa lol stop trying so hard

Nothing you just said in the post actually happened or was said in this thread.

Are you also saying that the left wing riots haven’t killed anyone? That would be a hilarious take on what has happened.

Keep trying to move the goalposts.

posted by jmog

Nothing you just said in the post actually happened or was said in this thread.

Are you also saying that the left wing riots haven’t killed anyone? That would be a hilarious take on what has happened.

Keep trying to move the goalposts.

Again I don’t know what posts or thread you are referring to but that is what started the conversation the comment I just made. U don’t like to talk about issues or make points u just argue semantics so u can always be right. I don’t care if you agree with me or not, but you acting like you know anything about these guys with the limited info that is available is laugh

posted by geeblock

Again I don’t know what posts or thread you are referring to but that is what started the conversation the comment I just made. U don’t like to talk about issues or make points u just argue semantics so u can always be right. I don’t care if you agree with me or not, but you acting like you know anything about these guys with the limited info that is available is laugh

Yeah, we can’t know anything about them...oh wait, we have their social media posts...

Another lefty murder of a guy in Denver. Who is dumb enough to go to a rally anywhere right now? Either side, you’re asking at the very least to get your ass beat by someone. It isn’t going to change anything in life, you’re just a dumbass. Almost as bad as people donating their hard earned money to a rich ass candidate. Idiots

Weird no comment from ptown or Gblock about their side murdering someone AGAIN. But, but, white supremacists... 

posted by iclfan2

Weird no comment from ptown or Gblock about their side murdering someone AGAIN. But, but, white supremacists... 

Sorry I was in Jamaica. U have a link?  Should I google lefty murder Denver?

This murder?

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/12/far-right-twitter-trolls-wont-admit-wrong-killing-patriot-denver/

Looks like as usual u just make every murder that happens linked to blm or antifa