Covid-19 discussion, continued...

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 12:26 PM

Spock, the Great Unifier. 

No matter how hard people go after each other for whatever reason on here, Spock always brings everyone together. 

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 1:24 PM

What all of you dont realize is that the troll act is going on year 12.


You guys are actually victims of it.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 1:45 PM
posted by Spock

What all of you dont realize is that the troll act is going on year 12.


You guys are actually victims of it.

You've spent 12 years acting like a troll on a message board with 25 people - most of whom automatically disregard what you say - and we're the victims?

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 1:46 PM
posted by Spock

What all of you dont realize is that the troll act is going on year 12.

You guys are actually victims of it.

Riiiiggggghhht....So pretending to be a complete idiot - for 12 years - entertains you?  Maybe you can dumb that up for me....

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 1:51 PM
posted by jmog

2. Masks do work, they keep a sick person from spreading germs. They don’t do anything for a healthy person.


Can you link the study/ies about asymptomatic spread, because it seems like just the opposite of what you're saying. A healthy person can also be infected/asymptomatic, and unless you were tested you'd never know. That's the whole point. How many times have we heard of someone being positive and they felt fine? But then they go about life normal and give it to someone who won't be fine...

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 1:53 PM
posted by SportsAndLady
One of the dumbest things you’ve said, and you’ve said a lot of dumb things. 

Yeah, saying what the CDC says is dumb...


Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:01 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

You've spent 12 years acting like a troll on a message board with 25 people - most of whom automatically disregard what you say - and we're the victims?

Hey, if calling someone a fucking idiot (or some variation on that) roughly 300 times a year makes me a victim, I have no problem with that!

Automatik

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:03 PM

Always love the trolling backpedal.


Jokes on you guyz!

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:03 PM
posted by Heretic

Hey, if calling someone a fucking idiot (or some variation on that) roughly 300 times a year makes me a victim, I have no problem with that!

I think I understand now why schools have banned dodgeball...

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:04 PM
posted by jmog

Yeah, saying what the CDC says is dumb...


Haha, so the CDC said “masks don’t do anything (nothing!) for a healthy person” ??? 


jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:06 PM
posted by Spock

What all of you dont realize is that the troll act is going on year 12.


You guys are actually victims of it.

Lol, when you realize you failed at math “I WAS JUST TROLLING!”




justincredible

Honorable Admin

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:14 PM
posted by Spock

What all of you dont realize is that the troll act is going on year 12.


You guys are actually victims of it.

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:14 PM
posted by friendfromlowry
Can you link the study/ies about asymptomatic spread, because it seems like just the opposite of what you're saying. A healthy person can also be infected/asymptomatic, and unless you were tested you'd never know. That's the whole point. How many times have we heard of someone being positive and they felt fine? But then they go about life normal and give it to someone who won't be fine...

Four individual studies from Brunei, Guangzhou China, Taiwan China and the Republic of Korea found that between 0% and 2.2% of people with asymptomatic infection infected anyone else


https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions




jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:15 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Haha, so the CDC said “masks don’t do anything (nothing!) for a healthy person” ??? 


Yes, they have multiple times.


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:33 PM
posted by jmog

Yes, they have multiple times.


Link


friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:40 PM
posted by jmog

Four individual studies from Brunei, Guangzhou China, Taiwan China and the Republic of Korea found that between 0% and 2.2% of people with asymptomatic infection infected anyone else


https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions




That article is full of support for asymptomatic transmission. 

"Early studies from the United States (77) and China (78) reported that many cases were asymptomatic, based on the lack of symptoms at the time of testing; however, 75-100% of these people later developed symptoms." 

There you go. What's healthy today may not show signs of illness 'til tomorrow. 

Edit: Idk why the font looks like that. 

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 2:42 PM
posted by SportsAndLady
We should definitely trust Chinese studies on this virus 

The WHO said, based on tens of thousands of contact tracings across many countries, "asymptomatic spread was very rare".

That, of course, upset a lot of the pandemic porn producers and so the WHO pretended to walk back that comment the following day.  But they never retracted or corrected the above statement, which is plainly factual.

majorspark

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 3:30 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Ohio and Maryland were on similar tracks for months and then Maryland issued mandatory masks and our cases went down....Ohio did not and your cases are way up in comparison

Just took a quick glance at the CDC website and Maryland looked to be a little higher than Ohio the last 7 days.

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 3:49 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

That article is full of support for asymptomatic transmission. 

"Early studies from the United States (77) and China (78) reported that many cases were asymptomatic, based on the lack of symptoms at the time of testing; however, 75-100% of these people later developed symptoms." 

There you go. What's healthy today may not show signs of illness 'til tomorrow. 

Edit: Idk why the font looks like that. 

Nothing you quoted there said anything about asymptomatic transmission. It was about the percentage of infections that were asymptomatic. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 5:51 PM
posted by majorspark
Just took a quick glance at the CDC website and Maryland looked to be a little higher than Ohio the last 7 days.

No. 

Ohio has over 9k cases and MD has over 5k the last 7 or so days. 

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases

Also, MD has about 500 people in the hospital and Ohio has over 1,000 in the hospital currently.

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 6:02 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

No. 

Ohio has over 9k cases and MD has over 5k the last 7 or so days. 

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases

Also, MD has about 500 people in the hospital and Ohio has over 1,000 in the hospital currently.

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases

But OH has more than double the population of Maryland.  So according to the data you posted, Ohio is actually doing a little better.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 6:12 PM
posted by gut
But OH has more than double the population of Maryland.  So according to the data you posted, Ohio is actually doing a little better.

That is true. 

I was more saying throughout all of this MD and Ohio have had around the same numbers. DeWine and Hogan were usually following the same policies and guidance.

They changed once Ohio numbers started to climb again last month. MD has stayed largely flat. 

Verbal Kint

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 6:14 PM

Current fatality rate is .04% of the population

population is 40% obese 

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 24, 2020 6:22 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

That is true. 

I was more saying throughout all of this MD and Ohio have had around the same numbers. DeWine and Hogan were usually following the same policies and guidance.

They changed once Ohio numbers started to climb again last month. MD has stayed largely flat. 

Ehhhh, OH numbers tripled from the low while Maryland doubled.

It does provide some context, though, for how big of a difference masks make (or don't).  I think the big culprit was bars and maybe restaurants, and maybe private parties even more so.  I also think if you don't maintain social distance that you will still infect people even if you're wearing a mask.  Whether that's 30 minutes or several hours I have no idea.