posted by O-Trap

That seems like a shitty way to run a business: Micromanaging and instilling a culture that has employees walking on eggshells about having an honest conversation with leadership.

I hope they offer you some leeway, one way or the other.

Oh, for sure. There's a reason the turnover is so high here. I can't count the amount of employees that have been through here in my 3+ years of employment -- and I'm in one of their "tax shelter" businesses that is intended to lose money. The "essential business" makes a lot of money, the seniority has no clue on how to manage people AND they are definitely not up for anything "new." No one seems to want to address the turnover. They could save a ton more money just by treating people better and ensuring the turnover is much less.

I love what I do, that's what makes it hard. I have started looking elsewhere, even though I don't want to. I'm just not set on operating this way for the long-term. Definitely do not look forward to working for people like this for 10+ years.

posted by geeblock

I was told by a good source that schools may not open fully till fall of 2021

Hope not. I like the approach of Purdue's president who said "we WILL open in the fall" - basically drawing a line in the Sand. Now he could get overruled or circumstances could change where that can't happen. But I like the goal. I wish k-12 would do the same. 

posted by geeblock

I was told by a good source that schools may not open fully till fall of 2021

That would be crazy. Figure out how to keep their distance and/or wear masks. This would be horrible for kids to not go to real school for 1.5 years. 

Local county here in SC - 411k people, 435 positive tests, 6 deaths. Population is a mix of very rich and very poor. SC closed things down later than most states. 

In my town in that county - April 13 had 92 total confirmed cases, April 27 had 110 total confirmed cases (with more testing). The mayor actually tried to spin that as it is growing and not trending downward. It's like 1 case a day....

Schools not open till 2021 would also screw with parents who are trying to get back to work at offices or who cannot work from home. 

Schools staying closed for another whole year would probably bring a revolt by the people. I just can't see that happening.

On a good note, the wife is symptom free today for the first time. If she stays that way for 2 more days she is allowed to leave the house as of Friday, when everything is starting to "open back up".

I will be quarantined for another week.

posted by geeblock

I was told by a good source that schools may not open fully till fall of 2021

Fuck. That. Shit.

posted by jmog

Schools staying closed for another whole year would probably bring a revolt by the people. I just can't see that happening.

It would be such a disaster.  Most kids would not be able to advance, either because the parents don't have time to homeschool with work or are simply not capable of it.

And for college kids, you could do almost all those classes online (unless there's a lab).  I wonder if colleges will waive room & board for freshmen....my guess is they won't until people complain.  Just like some of these schools were trying to take stimulus money despite endowments worth billions.

posted by BR1986FB

Had our morning conference call and it sounds like it will be sooner than I expected. Kind of sucks because seems like I'm more productive from home and can work longer hours without a 2.5 hour round trip commute. I do think that my company is going to re-think this and, at a minimum, I think I'm going to be able to work remotely on Fridays.

Very similar commute as well and this has saved me a lot of money and time!

Few of us talked about the possibility of teleworking to continue and it likely won't, but we came up with a few stipulations that if we approached the leadership on what it would look like to pitch it to them.

*Each person work one day from home/week.

*Same day each week for each person, with maybe every qtr rotating the day.

*Only Tues, Wed and Thurs would be authorized days. Reasoning would be the amount of holidays on Mondays, and other "special" days off for a certain group is always a mon or friday.   Also would be less temptation to extend a normal weekend into a 3 day if no one can telework on M or F.

We think those three stipulations would squash some of their concerns.

posted by thavoice

Very similar commute as well and this has saved me a lot of money and time!

Few of us talked about the possibility of teleworking to continue and it likely won't, but we came up with a few stipulations that if we approached the leadership on what it would look like to pitch it to them.

*Each person work one day from home/week.

*Same day each week for each person, with maybe every qtr rotating the day.

*Only Tues, Wed and Thurs would be authorized days. Reasoning would be the amount of holidays on Mondays, and other "special" days off for a certain group is always a mon or friday.   Also would be less temptation to extend a normal weekend into a 3 day if no one can telework on M or F.

 

We think those three stipulations would squash some of their concerns.

We have a team conference call tomorrow at 1pm. I'm betting he wants us to come back in starting Monday. We'll see.

this is from a local superintendent from a pretty affluent school district in Columbus. 

posted by geeblock

this is from a local superintendent from a pretty affluent school district in Columbus. 

There could never be a vaccine. Governor needs to be brought into reality.

We haven’t missed a day in the office or the factories.  If you manage responsibly and people take heed of the personal hygiene guidelines, continuing to function ‘semi-normally’ is achievable.

I don’t take that as schools closed til fall 2021. I take it as it may take until fall 2021 for things to truly get back to normal. Meaning school year starts on time, but there will be social distancing, shortened hours, no school lunches, etc. 

Yea I didn’t infer they would stay completely closed, just not fully open as we might be used to as in maybe some type of blend of home and school or shorter hours. Who knows 

posted by SportsAndLady

I don’t take that as schools closed til fall 2021. I take it as it may take until fall 2021 for things to truly get back to normal. Meaning school year starts on time, but there will be social distancing, shortened hours, no school lunches, etc. 

And sounds like probably no sports.  Which is going to hurt a lot of kids with respect to athletic scholarships.  I wonder what the ruling would be on a kid taking a year off school hoping he can play football in 2021.

I’m hearing football may get moved to spring next year 

CDC recommends social distancing for pets.

Trump expected to issue "stop sniffing butts" order.

posted by SportsAndLady

I don’t take that as schools closed til fall 2021. I take it as it may take until fall 2021 for things to truly get back to normal. Meaning school year starts on time, but there will be social distancing, shortened hours, no school lunches, etc. 

You mean the students will not be fed. If that’s what you mean there is 0% chance of that. That’s all the people outside of the schools care about. Every school around here is sending buses full of food everyday to differing areas of the districts for lunch.

posted by Ironman92

You mean the students will not be fed. If that’s what you mean there is 0% chance of that. That’s all the people outside of the schools care about. Every school around here is sending buses full of food everyday to differing areas of the districts for lunch.

I guess I just meant the typical way they feed students (cafeteria ladies!). There will be more of a catered style of lunches I’d  guess. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I guess I just meant the typical way they feed students (cafeteria ladies!). There will be more of a catered style of lunches I’d  guess. 

There’ll be adaptations to everything

posted by geeblock

I was told by a good source that schools may not open fully till fall of 2021

What line of work is your "good source" in?

posted by Ironman92

There’ll be adaptations to everything

Yeah? Isn’t that what I said? Lunches changing was one of the 3 examples I gave and obviously there will be a ton more. 

posted by ernest_t_bass

What line of work is your "good source" in?

Ode

posted by geeblock

Ode

The same one that had the article saying they directed schools to have no live graduations but same article said recommends they don’t.

ODE and DeWine better have a sit down quick because schools wanting any chance at having a live attended graduation of some form and the 2 aren’t giving the same answers.....I predict tomorrow or Thursday DeWine will clarify.

If one school has a live graduation with parents there and those around don’t....shit will burn

I’m just sharing some things that have been going around my circle since I am in education.  No one really knows what will happen. I do know they are preparing for a scenario where we aren’t fully back to school. Hopefully by then we are back in school. I must admit I didn’t see it coming. I fully assumed by fall we would be back to normal 

posted by SportsAndLady

I guess I just meant the typical way they feed students (cafeteria ladies!). There will be more of a catered style of lunches I’d  guess. 

Meals on wheels. The cafeteria ladies cook it, tray it, and deliver to classrooms.